Post by: jasnt on May 20, 2019, 04:19:18 PM
Before doing this I could shoot the 300gr EH @2650 before preasure signs
Today I did a quick preasure test and got preasure at 2800 and stiff bolt lift at 2830
Looks like my node will be 2750ish
More to come
Post by: b23 on May 20, 2019, 04:47:17 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 20, 2019, 06:29:14 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 20, 2019, 06:55:26 PM
Post by: yorketransport on May 20, 2019, 08:30:24 PM
I've been tempted to take the throating reamer to my 338/375 Ruger pistol, but I just can't convince myself to do it.
Post by: jasnt on May 20, 2019, 09:20:45 PM
Sorry it took me like a week to get that in the mail to you! It's crazy how fast you can go from no freebore to a Weatherby style freebore the length of an air strip with one of those throating tools. :chuckle:thank you again for sending it.
I've been tempted to take the throating reamer to my 338/375 Ruger pistol, but I just can't convince myself to do it.
It does look crazy long, and plenty of room to chase.
Post by: Reidus on May 20, 2019, 09:51:23 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 21, 2019, 07:55:10 PM
Coal is 3.990 and bto @15k off is 3.050. Hopefully get a smooth load at 2800 With out beating up the brass
Left to right
New coal, old coal, mag fed coal
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 21, 2019, 08:56:11 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 21, 2019, 09:37:09 PM
Benchmark barrels .338 Edge reamer put me @ 4.060 (COAL) with the Berger 300 Hybrid 15K into the lands and they shoot incredibly well!hows the 375 bme coming along?
Post by: hogslayer on May 23, 2019, 05:50:02 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 23, 2019, 07:03:29 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 24, 2019, 09:01:34 PM
Es of 11
Post by: b23 on May 24, 2019, 10:29:51 PM
Think I found my load. .005” off @2715 fps
Es of 11
You can try, but I think it'll be pretty hard to improve on that. Well done! :tup:
Any of the guns I shoot Berger bullets in have always shot their best right around the 5 thou off mark.
Post by: jasnt on May 24, 2019, 10:32:51 PM
Post by: jasnt on May 25, 2019, 06:29:22 PM
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Post by: yorketransport on May 25, 2019, 06:40:25 PM
Well it did well at a mile(1755 yards) today. I’m happy with it. Trying to get video from GoPro to my phone. Target was 2 moa black spot on the cliff
Are you using the GoPro app on your phone?
I'm a little surprised by your velocity, I expected it to be higher.
Post by: jasnt on May 25, 2019, 06:49:33 PM
yes and I got it figured out. Could go faster but it’s hard on the hornady brass. This load has zero preasure signsWell it did well at a mile(1755 yards) today. I’m happy with it. Trying to get video from GoPro to my phone. Target was 2 moa black spot on the cliff
Are you using the GoPro app on your phone?
I'm a little surprised by your velocity, I expected it to be higher.
Post by: jasnt on May 29, 2019, 07:25:48 AM
Post by: b23 on May 29, 2019, 08:24:17 AM
I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
Post by: jasnt on May 29, 2019, 10:21:02 AM
i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
Post by: yorketransport on May 29, 2019, 02:24:09 PM
i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
Yes, yes you do....... :stirthepot:
Post by: jasnt on May 29, 2019, 02:28:30 PM
ill trade ya my 243 for that Lawton :chuckle: then you’ll have no excuse if you loose one of those prs shoots 😎i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
Yes, yes you do....... :stirthepot:
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 29, 2019, 07:34:12 PM
i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
.416 Barrett.👍
Post by: jasnt on May 29, 2019, 08:09:22 PM
ive thought about the Barrett but I’m told large rifle primers have more consistent ignition than 50bmg primers. Plus I’d need a bigger press.i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
.416 Barrett.👍
Post by: b23 on May 29, 2019, 08:54:31 PM
ive thought about the Barrett but I’m told large rifle primers have more consistent ignition than 50bmg primers. Plus I’d need a bigger press.i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
.416 Barrett.👍
You get into those cartridges, and the press will be the cheapest part. lol
Post by: jasnt on May 29, 2019, 09:14:19 PM
thats true. Just one more thing on the list I suppose, even the cheytac would be a pain on the rock chucker which I think is around 4.25” clearance maybe a bit more I don’t remember. It’s an expensive game but I’m hopelessly addicted.ive thought about the Barrett but I’m told large rifle primers have more consistent ignition than 50bmg primers. Plus I’d need a bigger press.i really just need to step up to cheytac.I may have enough capacity now for retumbo. With h1000 I’m no longer getting compressed before preasure. May pick up an lb and see how it does
Retumbo is a bit slower, but it's so darn bulky and takes up so much space I'm not sure if you could even get enough in the case to outrun your H1000 load.
It's unfortunate Viht N570 is nearly impossible to get because I'd bet N570 would give you another 100 fps over H1000.
.416 Barrett.👍
You get into those cartridges, and the press will be the cheapest part. lol
Post by: jasnt on June 01, 2019, 05:32:40 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 01, 2019, 06:52:02 PM
Post by: jasnt on June 01, 2019, 07:42:12 PM
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden. For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”. Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
Post by: Jason on June 01, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
What are using for dies for this setup?That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden. For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”. Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
Post by: yorketransport on June 01, 2019, 09:03:09 PM
That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden. For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”. Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
Here's a thought, pick up a cheap 375 Ruger die and have somebody throw it on a lathe and run a boring bar in there to open it up to an ID of .533" to a depth of 2.500". Then you'd end up with a die that functions like a carbide handgun die where there's just a small ring at the mouth of the die which is doing the sizing. It would only cost you a couple bucks for the die and an hour of machine time to bore it out. It would be slow going since the die is hardened, but it's very doable.
Post by: yorketransport on June 01, 2019, 09:06:43 PM
What are using for dies for this setup?That'll work! I had 338 Edge for a while that only shot 2840 fps with a 300gr OTM from a 30" barrel with max loads. It shot great but that sucker was SLOW! You're in the same ball park with a lot less powder.now if I can just get that sizing issue taken care of I’ll be golden. For those that don’t know my shoulder is pushed forward .025” and my shoulder bump die can’t resize the case that last .025”. Time for custom dies or new brass.
Sure hope my next barrel is at least almost as fast as this McGowen
Normally the 338/375 Ruger can get sized with a 338 RCM die for the neck and shoulder and then a 375 Ruger die to body size when necessary. Since Jasent had to get all fancy with his 338/375 Long :chuckle:, the body length is too long for a 375 Ruger die to size the web on the case.
Post by: jasnt on June 02, 2019, 06:08:30 AM
Post by: Jason on June 02, 2019, 07:08:15 AM
Yes I’m using the 338 RCM and 375 ruger fl with expander removed.I kinda remember jasnt saying he ran the reamer a little deeper, I would call CH4D and get a set made to your specs.
On another note, I have just about everything back for my build minus a longer rear action screw and scope. I will start a thread showing the build process soon.
Post by: jasnt on June 05, 2019, 04:19:26 PM
Post by: Jason on June 05, 2019, 05:44:55 PM
Post by: jasnt on June 05, 2019, 06:35:57 PM
Your getting 2800 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with your current setup and York’s said he was getting 2840 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with his 338 Edge. Doesn’t seem like you’ll gain much for a lot more powder dump :dunno:if I order a new barrel I’ll go 32”. This barrel is fast and with more capacity I think I might hit 2950-3000. Who knows how the new barrel might do but I will be going .338 edge on my next barrel anyway. With my current setup 2200 yards is my max and that’s holding over as well as maxing out the dial. New scope is on the list but my next goal is 2500-3k yards.
Post by: Jason on June 05, 2019, 06:39:15 PM
The sky is the limit man :tup:Your getting 2800 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with your current setup and York’s said he was getting 2840 FPS from a 30 inch barrel with his 338 Edge. Doesn’t seem like you’ll gain much for a lot more powder dump :dunno:if I order a new barrel I’ll go 32”. This barrel is fast and with more capacity I think I might hit 2950-3000. Who knows how the new barrel might do but I will be going .338 edge on my next barrel anyway. With my current setup 2200 yards is my max and that’s holding over as well as maxing out the dial. New scope is on the list but my next goal is 2500-3k yards.
What’s your current scope setup and what are thinking about getting? I’m currently looking at scopes for my build. So many flavors out there.
Post by: jasnt on June 05, 2019, 06:50:40 PM
Post by: b23 on June 06, 2019, 04:59:45 PM
I’m considering renting an edge reamer and ordering brass and dies. or just order a new barrel and shoot this one till it’s finished.
What you've got going on with your current setup seems to be working pretty well for you, so if it were me, I'd leave it be till it's toast, then chamber the new barrel to 338 Edge. Maybe give some thought to having Shawn w/Defensive Edge do his +P throat on it. Shawn is getting over 3000fps w/300gr Bergers from 30in tubes in his 338 Edge +P setups.
Post by: jasnt on June 06, 2019, 06:46:54 PM
It is working well and I’m happy with this rifle! It has become like my 243, point and click and the bullet hits where I want.I’m considering renting an edge reamer and ordering brass and dies. or just order a new barrel and shoot this one till it’s finished.
What you've got going on with your current setup seems to be working pretty well for you, so if it were me, I'd leave it be till it's toast, then chamber the new barrel to 338 Edge. Maybe give some thought to having Shawn w/Defensive Edge do his +P throat on it. Shawn is getting over 3000fps w/300gr Bergers from 30in tubes in his 338 Edge +P setups.
It’s my goals that are pushing me to change. With this setup at 2500-3k I’m looking at 4.5-6.5 sec tof and over 400ft above line of sight. That’s a long time for those unknown winds to push the bullet around. At 3000fps and 3k yards I’d be half sec faster and 100’ shorter ark. It all adds up. At the rate I’m going I think I’ll order the barrel and round up dies and brass and by the time the barrel is finished this one will be toast or close to it
Post by: yorketransport on June 06, 2019, 08:23:23 PM
Post by: jasnt on June 07, 2019, 10:20:05 AM
I hate to say it, but it's time to think 375. Even the 338 CT is starting to drop off past 2500 yards with the 300gr OTM. You might consider trying the 375xc and build it on a Savage action. If you picked up one of the single shot 112 Magnums in 338 Lapua you could sell the factory barrel for $200 and only be into the stocked action for about $900. Then just have a 375xc barrel chambered up and you're good to go. The brass and dies would set you back a decent chunk of change but they're very high quality. The 350gr SMK is about the same price the 300gr OTM and there are a ton of good solid copper options in 375.i would think by the time I got a decent stock and trigger on it I’d be about same as cheytac.
Post by: jasnt on June 13, 2019, 06:43:01 PM
Post by: yorketransport on June 13, 2019, 08:12:15 PM
Post by: Jason on June 20, 2019, 06:55:29 AM
Post by: jasnt on June 20, 2019, 07:50:32 AM
I ended up buying a set of dies from CH4D for my 338-375 Ruger. $162 shipped. I would have been half the cost anyways after buying two die sets to make it work. Ordered on Monday and at my door yesterday.interested how those work for you
Post by: yorketransport on June 20, 2019, 08:03:56 PM
Post by: Jason on June 20, 2019, 08:49:41 PM
CH4D makes some great dies and the price is pretty good for custom/semi custom dies. I have sets for the 6.5 Badger and 375 BME and I know Biggerhammer uses them for a couple of his wildcats.Biggerhammer actually had a post on here where he posted a picture of a reamer that had CH4D name on it. At that point I remembered that they made custom dies and reamers. Sent an email to them and Beth responded the next day and said they have them in stock.
Post by: jasnt on July 04, 2019, 09:06:00 PM