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Post by: b23 on May 30, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
230gr Bergers at 3250, what’s not to like :tup:
Post by: yorketransport on May 30, 2019, 07:49:54 PM
I think the 300 WSM was the one I kept the longest. All the others get moved pretty quick for some reason. I've had more 300 Savages than anything else so I guess that would probably be my favorite.
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Post by: RB on May 30, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Although I have killed just as much with a model 770 .300 Win mag
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Post by: zwickeyman on May 31, 2019, 05:27:31 AM
I own a X bolt in 300 win mag now and love it
Also like the 300 RUM, 300 Weatherby and the 300 WSM
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Post by: pashok23 on May 31, 2019, 08:26:02 AM
.300 Win Mag.:yeah:
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on May 31, 2019, 02:59:48 PM
I guess that makes me old!
Love hunting the thick stuff with my grandfather's .30/30, killed more with the .30-06, now most likely to grab the .308
Post by: Stein on May 31, 2019, 07:38:18 PM
.30-06
There is that and all the new fads. Shoot what saved the world.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on May 31, 2019, 08:00:02 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on May 31, 2019, 09:14:19 PM
.30-06, .308, .30/30
I guess that makes me old!
Love hunting the thick stuff with my grandfather's .30/30, killed more with the .30-06, now most likely to grab the .308
I like your style mister. Don’t fix what works, or, ain’t broken.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 31, 2019, 09:51:41 PM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
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Post by: Biggerhammer on June 01, 2019, 01:03:28 AM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
Great chambering(.300 Win). It’s only been around since 1963. New fad would be better suited for .300 WSM, .30 Nosler , .30-.378(Never been a fan of anything Weatherby), .308-Baer, .300 Ultra. Forgive me for shooting them all. Don’t forget the .308 Norma Mag (1960) there were plenty of converted surplus rifles chambered in the .308 NM.
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Post by: Jonathan_S on June 01, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
Great chambering(.300 Win). It’s only been around since 1963. New fad would be better suited for .300 WSM, .30 Nosler , .30-.378(Never been a fan of anything Weatherby), .308-Baer, .300 Ultra. Forgive me for shooting them all. Don’t forget the .308 Norma Mag (1960) there were plenty of converted surplus rifles chambered in the .308 NM.
I was poking some good natured fun at @Stein about it being faddish. Yeah I have been around a couple old 308 Norma Mags that were some cool old workhorses :tup:
Post by: Cougartail on June 01, 2019, 12:04:23 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 01, 2019, 01:06:49 PM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
Great chambering(.300 Win). It’s only been around since 1963. New fad would be better suited for .300 WSM, .30 Nosler , .30-.378(Never been a fan of anything Weatherby), .308-Baer, .300 Ultra. Forgive me for shooting them all. Don’t forget the .308 Norma Mag (1960) there were plenty of converted surplus rifles chambered in the .308 NM.
I was poking some good natured fun at @Stein about it being faddish. Yeah I have been around a couple old 308 Norma Mags that were some cool old workhorses :tup:
I know...🙃
Post by: Biggerhammer on June 01, 2019, 01:07:46 PM
Mine is the 6.5 Creedmoor.. It's a 30 caliber after it hits the side of a deer. :chuckle:
Perfect 👌!
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Post by: jdb on June 01, 2019, 02:38:59 PM
Mine is the 6.5 Creedmoor.. It's a 30 caliber after it hits the side of a deer. :chuckle::puke:
Post by: Wingin it on June 01, 2019, 03:03:02 PM
Post by: Stein on June 01, 2019, 09:27:39 PM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
Great chambering(.300 Win). It’s only been around since 1963. New fad would be better suited for .300 WSM, .30 Nosler , .30-.378(Never been a fan of anything Weatherby), .308-Baer, .300 Ultra. Forgive me for shooting them all. Don’t forget the .308 Norma Mag (1960) there were plenty of converted surplus rifles chambered in the .308 NM.
I was poking some good natured fun at @Stein about it being faddish. Yeah I have been around a couple old 308 Norma Mags that were some cool old workhorses :tup:
Until you have at least one world war under your belt (preferably two) it’s just a fun experiment.
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Post by: mountainman on June 02, 2019, 01:14:55 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on June 03, 2019, 05:51:44 PM
The new fad, 300 win mag:yeah:
Great chambering(.300 Win). It’s only been around since 1963. New fad would be better suited for .300 WSM, .30 Nosler , .30-.378(Never been a fan of anything Weatherby), .308-Baer, .300 Ultra. Forgive me for shooting them all. Don’t forget the .308 Norma Mag (1960) there were plenty of converted surplus rifles chambered in the .308 NM.
I was poking some good natured fun at @Stein about it being faddish. Yeah I have been around a couple old 308 Norma Mags that were some cool old workhorses :tup:
Until you have at least one world war under your belt (preferably two) it’s just a fun experiment.
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Hopefully that means the vanilla king, .30-06 will remain unrivaled :tup:
Post by: theleo on June 05, 2019, 07:48:18 AM
Post by: theleo on June 05, 2019, 07:50:13 AM
Mine is the 6.5 Creedmoor.. It's a 30 caliber after it hits the side of a deer. :chuckle:On a side note, have you found a "hunter pink" hat that will fit your man bun yet?
Post by: mburrows on June 05, 2019, 09:09:40 AM
Mine is the 6.5 Creedmoor.. It's a 30 caliber after it hits the side of a deer. :chuckle:On a side note, have you found a "hunter pink" hat that will fit your man bun yet?
lol @bigdog253
Post by: konradcountry on June 05, 2019, 09:36:12 AM
Also like 300 blackout but it serves a completely different purpose.
Post by: grundy53 on June 05, 2019, 10:07:34 AM
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Post by: Goshawk on June 05, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
Wonderful to carry and reaches out as far as I hunt. I'm no 1000 yard sniper. Most of my kills are just shy of getting powder burns.
Post by: tgomez on June 07, 2019, 10:39:27 AM
Post by: yorketransport on June 07, 2019, 07:40:31 PM
No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed.
I think almost any of the 375s would beat the 30-06 in every conceivable way in every category and actually be legal for every use.
Post by: mountainman on June 07, 2019, 09:20:04 PM
alas Andrew, the thread is on 30 calibers😊No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed.
I think almost any of the 375s would beat the 30-06 in every conceivable way in every category and actually be legal for every use.
Post by: yorketransport on June 07, 2019, 10:01:07 PM
alas Andrew, the thread is on 30 calibers😊No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed.
I think almost any of the 375s would beat the 30-06 in every conceivable way in every category and actually be legal for every use.
Yes it is, but it’s hard to ignore a comment claiming that the 30-06 is “literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed”. I would love to hear a rational argument backing up that statement.
The ‘06 is in the running for the most overrated cartridge ever, right there with the 308 and 223.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 07, 2019, 10:14:11 PM
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Post by: yorketransport on June 08, 2019, 06:47:41 AM
The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
There’s a big difference between “my favorite is...” and “the best ever is...”. Everyone believes that their favorite is the best because it’s their favorite. A guy will get all worked up when somebody says the Creedmoor is the greatest cartridge ever designed and then go on and use the same hyperbolic speech to say the 308/30-06 or some other “classic” is the best thing ever. Tenure doesn’t directly correlate to quality or performance, but neither does popularity or prevalence.
York, I know you’re X50 smarter on boom stick ballistics than I am, but why did the US Army (and even other countries, barf) use the 7.62, AKA. .308 as the preferred sniper caliber with such lethality for so many, many years if it wasn’t efficient? In Vietnam, they say that the two factors that the VC feared most was our attack choppers and the accuracy of those damn 5.56/AKA .223 M16s.
All of the former/current military rounds are popular because they were standardized and made readily available. They were only adopted because somebody felt it was the best balance between cost, weight, size, performance, availability (and the proper amount of back room negotiation) to meet the needs at that time. I would give more credit to the platforms the rounds are fired from than the cartridges themselves.
Post by: Jolten on June 08, 2019, 08:08:42 AM
York, I know you’re X50 smarter on boom stick ballistics than I am, but why did the US Army (and even other countries, barf) use the 7.62, AKA. .308 as the preferred sniper caliber with such lethality for so many, many years if it wasn’t efficient? In Vietnam, they say that the two factors that the VC feared most was our attack choppers and the accuracy of those damn 5.56/AKA .223 M16s.
The military considered the 30-06 the upper recoil limit that most soldiers would be able to handle and maintain accuracy.
308 was developed for easier cycling in automatic/semi automatic cycling weapon systems.
5.56 soldiers could carry more ammo in the field for equal weight.
Could be wrong.
Post by: konradcountry on June 08, 2019, 08:24:43 AM
York, I know you’re X50 smarter on boom stick ballistics than I am, but why did the US Army (and even other countries, barf) use the 7.62, AKA. .308 as the preferred sniper caliber with such lethality for so many, many years if it wasn’t efficient? In Vietnam, they say that the two factors that the VC feared most was our attack choppers and the accuracy of those damn 5.56/AKA .223 M16s.
The military considered the 30-06 the upper recoil limit that most soldiers would be able to handle and maintain accuracy.
308 was developed for easier cycling in automatic/semi automatic cycling weapon systems.
5.56 soldiers could carry more ammo in the field for equal weight.
Could be wrong.
You can see why the military went with 556 by simply watching people shoot AR10s at a range.
Even with a brake and in a sitting position I see people having a hard time with the recoil. Those AR10 brakes are friggin loud as well.
In a 200 yard standoff with average soldiers I would easily bet on the guy with the 556. Less recoil, more ammo, faster followup.
Post by: b23 on June 08, 2019, 09:02:28 AM
The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
True, BUT!, when someone says "No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed." you've got to know there will be some rebuttal coming for a statement like that.
Post by: Bullkllr on June 08, 2019, 09:42:31 AM
True. Especially when the LAWS rocket is clearly more versatile; works on anything from mice to tanks... ;)The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
True, BUT!, when someone says "No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed." you've got to know there will be some rebuttal coming for a statement like that.
Post by: bobcat on June 08, 2019, 09:59:02 AM
The question here was "your favorite 30 caliber rifle" and out of the four .30 rifles I have in my safe I said my Husqvarna in 30/06 was my favorite. Not because of the cartridge it shoots, just that it's a cool rifle made in 1951 and is higher quality than many of the rifles made today. I've never even hunted with it, but I intend to. If it was a 308 Winchester it would still be the same rifle.
So anyway, I took the question to mean what is your favorite "rifle," not what is your favorite 30 caliber cartridge.
Post by: Stein on June 08, 2019, 10:08:39 AM
The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
True, BUT!, when someone says "No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed." you've got to know there will be some rebuttal coming for a statement like that.
Agreed, there are rebuttals when people say the earth is round too.
Post by: Bob33 on June 08, 2019, 10:19:57 AM
Post by: Pegasus on June 08, 2019, 10:23:48 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 08, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
How about getting back to expressing opinions about favorite .30 calibers?My favorite 30 caliber is way more better than your favorite 30 caliber!
Is that what you mean? :chuckle:
Post by: yorketransport on June 08, 2019, 11:20:43 AM
The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
True, BUT!, when someone says "No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed." you've got to know there will be some rebuttal coming for a statement like that.
Agreed, there are rebuttals when people say the earth is round too.
You better believe it; I'm sick of all the "round earthers" spewing their lies all the time! If Earth were really round, when people in Australia fire a gun the bullets would wouldn't drop at greater distances, they'd rise because they're falling up. People believe the stupidest things....... :chuckle:
How about getting back to expressing opinions about favorite .30 calibers?My favorite 30 caliber is way more better than your favorite 30 caliber!
Is that what you mean? :chuckle:
My favorite 30 caliber is the 309 JDJ because it's the biggest of all the 30 calibers; .309 is larger than .300 so the JDJ is bigger and better than the 300 Win Mag. Take that!
Post by: timberfaller on June 08, 2019, 11:22:10 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on June 08, 2019, 01:20:04 PM
Ok then i guess the Arisaka type 99 is better than the JDJ because it is .311 and that's bigger than .309. :chuckle:The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
True, BUT!, when someone says "No question, the 30-06. It works from coyotes to elephants and everything inbetween. It is literally the most versatile cartridge ever developed." you've got to know there will be some rebuttal coming for a statement like that.
Agreed, there are rebuttals when people say the earth is round too.
You better believe it; I'm sick of all the "round earthers" spewing their lies all the time! If Earth were really round, when people in Australia fire a gun the bullets would wouldn't drop at greater distances, they'd rise because they're falling up. People believe the stupidest things....... :chuckle:How about getting back to expressing opinions about favorite .30 calibers?My favorite 30 caliber is way more better than your favorite 30 caliber!
Is that what you mean? :chuckle:
My favorite 30 caliber is the 309 JDJ because it's the biggest of all the 30 calibers; .309 is larger than .300 so the JDJ is bigger and better than the 300 Win Mag. Take that!
My favorite all around is my trusty .300 Win. mag's.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 08, 2019, 06:48:02 PM
The ops post is not the "best", the "fastest,, the most over-rated..it's "What's your favorite 30 caliber rifle"
There’s a big difference between “my favorite is...” and “the best ever is...”. Everyone believes that their favorite is the best because it’s their favorite. A guy will get all worked up when somebody says the Creedmoor is the greatest cartridge ever designed and then go on and use the same hyperbolic speech to say the 308/30-06 or some other “classic” is the best thing ever. Tenure doesn’t directly correlate to quality or performance, but neither does popularity or prevalence.York, I know you’re X50 smarter on boom stick ballistics than I am, but why did the US Army (and even other countries, barf) use the 7.62, AKA. .308 as the preferred sniper caliber with such lethality for so many, many years if it wasn’t efficient? In Vietnam, they say that the two factors that the VC feared most was our attack choppers and the accuracy of those damn 5.56/AKA .223 M16s.
All of the former/current military rounds are popular because they were standardized and made readily available. They were only adopted because somebody felt it was the best balance between cost, weight, size, performance, availability (and the proper amount of back room negotiation) to meet the needs at that time. I would give more credit to the platforms the rounds are fired from than the cartridges themselves.
Fair enough, thanks for your thoughts.
Post by: mountainman on June 09, 2019, 11:10:29 AM
Not 30's but sure am fond of my Roberts and Swede!! Working on a 280 AI that should fit the bill!! :tup:That Roberts should work good on coyote and deer chasing dogs😉
Post by: b23 on June 09, 2019, 11:40:26 AM
Not 30's but sure am fond of my Roberts and Swede!! Working on a 280 AI that should fit the bill!! :tup:That Roberts should work good on coyote and deer chasing dogs😉
Off topic, off topice, calling all off topic police!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
To soon?! ;)
Post by: timberfaller on June 09, 2019, 11:41:40 AM
YEP they sure did!! :tup: Never had any run off!
Post by: mountainman on June 09, 2019, 12:01:17 PM
Guilty as charged!😉Not 30's but sure am fond of my Roberts and Swede!! Working on a 280 AI that should fit the bill!! :tup:That Roberts should work good on coyote and deer chasing dogs😉
Off topic, off topice, calling all off topic police!!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
To soon?! ;)
Actually, just a sidebar comment from Timberfaller an my years in the Methow👍
Back on topic, many shoot the 30/40 Krag? Very popular post war surplus
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on June 09, 2019, 03:26:46 PM
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/300-win-mag-vs-338-lapua-vs-338-win-mag/
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Post by: DOUBLELUNG on June 10, 2019, 11:11:47 AM
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