Post by: scottfrick on June 07, 2019, 10:59:44 PM
Bring on the draw WA draw results
Post by: HillHound on June 08, 2019, 05:01:28 AM
Post by: The scout on June 08, 2019, 05:24:23 AM
Post by: WSU on June 08, 2019, 06:36:36 AM
I just really hope I draw one before I die.
I just hope someone I hunt with draws one before I die.
Post by: grundy53 on June 08, 2019, 06:49:20 AM
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Post by: Timberstalker on June 08, 2019, 06:55:20 AM
I just really hope I draw one before I die.
I just hope someone I hunt with draws one before I die.
Exactly this!
Post by: jackelope on June 08, 2019, 06:58:55 AM
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Post by: jeffitz on June 08, 2019, 07:51:07 AM
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Post by: elkrack on June 08, 2019, 08:23:51 AM
Post by: Buckjunkie on June 08, 2019, 08:26:27 AM
Post by: jstone on June 08, 2019, 08:34:55 AM
Someday it will happen
Post by: X-Force on June 08, 2019, 08:40:44 AM
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Post by: HUNT on June 08, 2019, 10:05:24 AM
Post by: benhuntin on June 08, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
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Post by: scottfrick on June 08, 2019, 12:15:50 PM
This turned into a show off thread real quick.Not a show off thread, just a “ what to hope for thread” their all amazing animals, just gotta be lucky and draw the permit”. Thank you everyone for showing. My dream hunt is a moose permit. Their amazing animals!!
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Post by: Buckjunkie on June 08, 2019, 01:23:02 PM
This turned into a show off thread real quick.
Sooo...you don’t like seeing pics? Maybe you should post a pic of the bull you were in on last year? I for one would like to see it again.
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Post by: hunterednate on June 08, 2019, 01:28:05 PM
This turned into a show off thread real quick.
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Keep the OIL trophy pics coming!!! No such thing as too much hype when we're all waiting for the draws....99% of the fun is the anticipation (and since we may never draw in our lifetimes, if you don't enjoy the anticipation, what's the point at all?).
Awesome trophies. Thanks for sharing them!
Post by: scottfrick on June 08, 2019, 01:57:11 PM
This turned into a show off thread real quick.
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Keep the OIL trophy pics coming!!! No such thing as too much hype when we're all waiting for the draws....99% of the fun is the anticipation (and since we may never draw in our lifetimes, if you don't enjoy the anticipation, what's the point at all?).
Awesome trophies. Thanks for sharing them!
:tup: exact attitude to have! Love it
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 08, 2019, 02:04:46 PM
MOOSE!!! Fun fun hunt! This is the OIL with your best draw odds.
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Post by: scottfrick on June 08, 2019, 02:16:39 PM
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MOOSE!!! Fun fun hunt!
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Beauty!! :tup:
Post by: elkrack on June 08, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 08, 2019, 09:24:52 PM
Buckjunkie has the best moose pic ever - new world record Shiras correct ? Ive been showing that to everyone i know saying - this is why you have to apply for OILs !
I’d quit that and tell everybody it’s not worth applying
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Post by: Mfowl on June 08, 2019, 09:49:22 PM
Post by: elkrack on June 08, 2019, 09:56:34 PM
Great pics all! Congrats!...Where's the rams?
:yeah:
Post by: time2hunt on June 08, 2019, 10:05:45 PM
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Post by: Buckjunkie on June 08, 2019, 10:09:24 PM
All three boys (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/addb7b4d366a380f73e0466684565d1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/462ede2fd23bef16b6ca9250f1d11c43.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/5e4738c89bf37d2cb4aec2c125e3fe6c.jpg)
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Great job of doing justice to all three tags!
Post by: elkrack on June 08, 2019, 10:32:39 PM
Post by: Falcon on June 09, 2019, 08:17:15 AM
All three boys (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/addb7b4d366a380f73e0466684565d1b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/462ede2fd23bef16b6ca9250f1d11c43.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190609/5e4738c89bf37d2cb4aec2c125e3fe6c.jpg)
Awesome work. If I draw the sheep tag I’ll complete the hat trick :drool:
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Post by: jstone on June 09, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
Post by: time2hunt on June 09, 2019, 10:37:28 AM
Any of the oils shot with archery equipment? I am going to try with my bow if I ever draw moose or sheepNo but the moose and ram could of been shoot archery. The goat no way 😜
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Post by: HillHound on June 09, 2019, 12:02:53 PM
Post by: jackelope on June 09, 2019, 03:24:40 PM
Any of the oils shot with archery equipment? I am going to try with my bow if I ever draw moose or sheep
Rainier10 could have shot mine with his bow a couple different times. I was 100 or so yards away waiting for him to show himself though.
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2019, 06:23:03 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 09, 2019, 07:21:08 PM
.Idaho doesn't count loser!
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 09, 2019, 07:25:53 PM
Someone asks for some rams!
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Post by: Birdgetter on June 09, 2019, 07:33:00 PM
You're just mad because he's wearing camo that doesn't suck! :chuckle:.Idaho doesn't count loser!
Post by: Ironhead on June 09, 2019, 07:41:11 PM
Post by: benhuntin on June 09, 2019, 08:09:58 PM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190610/fc7b1f812cdff1d97266c3302cad5a7e.jpg)I have never wanted a sheep tag til this year. Only OIL tag I have never hunted.
Someone asks for some rams!
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Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 09, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
.Idaho doesn't count loser!
Your just jealous. Of my moose and camo. :tung:
Post by: Buckjunkie on June 09, 2019, 08:53:59 PM
Post by: Buckjunkie on June 09, 2019, 08:58:25 PM
Post by: scottfrick on June 09, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
Another OIL ramDandy @Buckjunkie
Post by: huntnnw on June 09, 2019, 09:54:36 PM
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Post by: CNELK on June 10, 2019, 09:38:43 AM
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Post by: bowtech on June 10, 2019, 09:01:22 PM
Post by: bornhunter on June 10, 2019, 09:44:23 PM
I was fortunate enough to draw a moose tag last year so I don't expect to draw either of the other oil tags in my lifetime. Although I'm really hoping for a sheep tag... 😂😆(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190608/1e9d72f0a0e33d9ed9df471c1ca1b5f6.jpg)
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Wow, nice bull.
Post by: MADMAX on June 10, 2019, 09:47:06 PM
Like the euro
Post by: grundy53 on June 10, 2019, 09:57:49 PM
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Post by: X-Force on June 10, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Goat!
Awesome goat.
Chelan South if I remember correctly
Post by: Skyvalhunter on June 11, 2019, 05:48:12 AM
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Post by: Bango skank on June 11, 2019, 08:01:47 AM
Post by: jackelope on June 11, 2019, 08:03:32 AM
I already know i didnt. 9 pts for moose, not a chance.
I drew my goat tag with 9. There's always a chance.
Post by: jackelope on June 11, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
Everyone knows it was west guys
North South East West doesn't matter. As I remember, it's a B&C all timer.
Post by: Bango skank on June 11, 2019, 08:06:14 AM
I already know i didnt. 9 pts for moose, not a chance.
I drew my goat tag with 9. There's always a chance.
Yeah, theres a chance, otherwise i wouldnt put in, but lets just say im not practicing my moose calling in anticipation.
Post by: jackelope on June 11, 2019, 08:07:13 AM
:twocents:
Post by: Bango skank on June 11, 2019, 08:10:58 AM
We'd have better odds if we were limited to one OIL choice per year.
:twocents:
I do my part in that. I dont apply for sheep or goat. It just doesnt interest me. I also dont apply for any quality permits.
Post by: Matth on June 11, 2019, 08:50:35 AM
I already know i didnt. 9 pts for moose, not a chance.My hunting partner drew his 49 moose tag with 7 two years ago
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Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2019, 08:19:11 AM
with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
Post by: Bango skank on June 12, 2019, 08:23:37 AM
with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
My understanding is that the avg points shown in the pamphlet arent avg points of those who drew, but avg points of all applicants
Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2019, 08:29:53 AM
with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
My understanding is that the avg points shown in the pamphlet arent avg points of those who drew, but avg points of all applicants
No, it's "average winner points." If you look online you'll see that's what they call it there. And you can verify by looking at the pdf's that list the points of all who drew.
Post by: bearpaw on June 12, 2019, 08:30:40 AM
with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
You are correct, it makes odds quite a bit higher if you have more points because points are squared.
Post by: grundy53 on June 12, 2019, 08:31:50 AM
Guy with 26 points draws and a guy with 1 point draws. That would be 13 points average. But not really telling the whole story. When there are very few tags average points don't mean anything. They should use mean instead.with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
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Post by: bobcat on June 12, 2019, 08:38:50 AM
Guy with 26 points draws and a guy with 1 point draws. That would be 13 points average. But not really telling the whole story. When there are very few tags average points don't mean anything. They should use mean instead.with the sheer numbers of applicants for the OIL tags points mean nothing in WA when you have thousands with 1-6 points and lots with 15 plus everyone has a chance
Yes, everyone does have a chance but it's wrong to say points mean nothing. Just look at the average points of people who drew tags. For bull moose, right out of the pamphlet, here are the averages: 17, 12, 13, 13, 16, 15, 16, 16, 16, 14, 10, 16, 14, and 17.
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Yes, I understand what you're saying, but if you look at the actual numbers, very few people draw moose, sheep, and goat tags with less than, say, 10 points. You'll see a lot more people selected with 15 points and up, even though the number of applicants with those higher point totals are much less. So the points certainly make a difference. Just think, 23 points gives a person 529 chances while 5 points only 25 chances.
Post by: X-Force on June 12, 2019, 08:44:30 AM
Post by: Ironhead on June 12, 2019, 09:02:40 AM
Post by: X-Force on June 12, 2019, 09:07:47 AM
The way Washington's draw process works makes points pretty much useless. For instance Swakane Ram tag, 20 points = .09% chance to draw - 1 point = less than .001% chance to draw. So 20 years of applying gets you a .09% greater chance to draw than a person that applied for their first time ever.
You get a 90x greater change to draw then the first time applying... but your odds are still garbage at .09%
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on June 12, 2019, 09:23:31 AM
Antlered Moose Draw Distribution (Total):
104 total permits:
0-5 points = 3 selected
6-10 points = 9 selected
11-15 points = 39 selected
16-20 points = 42 selected
21-25 points = 7 selected
49 Degrees North has the most telling information of who is applying with 10456 applicants for that hunt #8006, (I can't differentiate obviously hunt choice multiple picks):
25 3
24 2
23 158
22 104
21 79
20 282 - 1 Selected
19 284 - 1 Selected
18 294 - 3 Selected
17 331 - 2 Selected
16 362 - 1 Selected
15 455 - 2 Selected
14 431 - 1 Selected
13 464 - 1 Selected
12 516 - 1 Selected
11 525
10 539
9 513
8 539
7 487
6 541
5 592
4 714
3 644
2 738
1 859
Post by: Stein on June 12, 2019, 09:26:10 AM
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on June 12, 2019, 09:41:15 PM
I’m 6’4” so that’s why I drew with 9 pts.
Well... this theory makes as much sense as any I have heard yet. I'm only 5'6" and have never drawn a quality tag of any kind in 18 years.
I'm calling my *&%ing congressman... >:(
Post by: X-Force on June 12, 2019, 10:40:12 PM