Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 20, 2019, 07:53:23 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on June 20, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
Post by: Crunchy on June 20, 2019, 08:33:26 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
I started hunting Oregon in 07. Wish I had started putting in for some of the good elk permits then, but didnt. Now it is too late. Odds are worse as a non res to draw some of the premier units. I just go OTC and cannot complain.
I grew up in Oregon. But my family didn't play the points game. I didn't start building points until my late 30s. And moved to WA in my 40s. Kick myself as I could have drawn the big 3 elk at least once by now (when I was a res) or an antelope. Luckily Oregon lets you keep your points and DFW number when you move out of state. I'm now just banking points only until I move back to our OR residence. Given the limited number of non res tags, point creep will keep me from ever likely drawing in the 75% pool on the hard to get tags as a nonres (and 25% pool draws are pretty much impossible on those harder tags). Thankfully Oregon has decent OTC hunts.
Post by: theleo on June 20, 2019, 10:06:03 AM
I'm in a similar position but I'm in my early 30's. The only OTC option I miss in Oregon is hunting desert mulies with my bow. I burned my antelope points the year before I switched my residency and never built any elk points up. If I were a resident there's a couple of tags I could build points for and have fun with but I skip Oregon as a non-resident.I started hunting Oregon in 07. Wish I had started putting in for some of the good elk permits then, but didnt. Now it is too late. Odds are worse as a non res to draw some of the premier units. I just go OTC and cannot complain.
I grew up in Oregon. But my family didn't play the points game. I didn't start building points until my late 30s. And moved to WA in my 40s. Kick myself as I could have drawn the big 3 elk at least once by now (when I was a res) or an antelope. Luckily Oregon lets you keep your points and DFW number when you move out of state. I'm now just banking points only until I move back to our OR residence. Given the limited number of non res tags, point creep will keep me from ever likely drawing in the 75% pool on the hard to get tags as a nonres (and 25% pool draws are pretty much impossible on those harder tags). Thankfully Oregon has decent OTC hunts.
Post by: Halo on June 20, 2019, 10:22:16 AM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 11:22:18 AM
Wife drew a ML WT tag (pretty much guaranteed). I got the late ML WT for West Blues.
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 12:52:09 PM
Oregon doesn't have OTC muzzleloader hunts, or east side OTC deer rifle, and very limited east side OTC rifle elk. And most of the state is OTC for archery elk and deer. So declaring weapon would be problematic for many residents on the east side that want to hunt every year as their family tradition....they would be forced to archery hunt or drive hundreds of miles to rifle OTC. Wouldn't be fair to those east side residents. Portlanders could put in for rifle every year east side and then just hunt OTC near home of they didn't draw.
I live on the eastside. I'm fully aware of what it means. I actually go to the westside and hunt some years if I don't draw. What you get is people putting in for rifle tags, not drawing, than buying archery as a backup. Which can bring up some other interesting issues... anyways, make em commit. It'll spread it out a little more. But I'm also a guy that doesn't like the fact I can draw LOP every year and still pick up points - and I can draw LOP almost every year.
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 12:57:00 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 20, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
Just more points for me, as expected, 5 for antelope, 18 for deer and 22 for elk.
That 22 elk points could be interesting for a NR.........right in the big 3 wheel house I think.
Post by: vandeman17 on June 20, 2019, 02:28:54 PM
Post by: spin05 on June 21, 2019, 04:54:46 AM
Post by: starbailey on June 21, 2019, 10:30:27 AM
Post by: finnman on June 21, 2019, 08:58:00 PM
Post by: nwhunter on June 25, 2019, 07:55:50 AM
Post by: finnman on June 28, 2019, 06:48:28 PM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 28, 2019, 07:03:29 PM
Post by: finnman on June 30, 2019, 04:50:47 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 30, 2019, 06:18:45 PM
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 30, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
My wife has 24 antlerless points as well...still can’t draw a Umatilla refuge buck tag.
Call Paul and he will tell you no matter your out of state pts you will never pull that one.
Post by: KopperBuck on July 01, 2019, 12:15:40 PM
Oregon is going to change that "antlerless tag" stuff, the old 600 series antlerless will soon become true antlerless. There was a couple units we took advantage of that allowed late rut muzz whitetails bucks. That's gonna change. Our antlerless points are now that.
I dunno. People are pretty upset by it. Especially since they're leaving the Willamette tag in the 600 series. I'm going to the meeting on July 12th to let it be known. I wouldn't have invested the money in that series otherwise. They're getting push back.
Post by: finnman on July 03, 2019, 10:36:20 PM
I drew it in 2012 with 17 points. Missed a 34” wide 4x5. Biggest buck I have ever seen in the wild. I have been having her apply ever since.My wife has 24 antlerless points as well...still can’t draw a Umatilla refuge buck tag.
Call Paul and he will tell you no matter your out of state pts you will never pull that one.
A change in those points really would suck rocks.
Post by: GBoyd on July 04, 2019, 08:21:19 AM
I don't care either way about the Umatilla hunts, but I do wish they'd changed the Willamette hunt to doe only. There's already OTC rifle for a full month, OTC bow for two months, as well as undisclosed numbers of damage control permits. The farm I work for just killed another two last month. I don't see that we need another 3000 buck tags that run from September to February. I hunt that tag yearly through a LOP and I wish they wouldn't let me kill bucks.
With the land available, the Willamette valley could be an incredible deer hunting spot, like a west coast Iowa, if they killed does to keep the population low and make the farmers happy, but left the bucks to grow a few years.
Post by: finnman on July 05, 2019, 09:18:53 PM
This lesson is the same for every hunt. You never know when one particular hunt is going to change. Thus ending the chase.
I do not care about the Willamette unit or it’s hunts. It’s never been a goal or concern.
As to waiting, a hunt can only be valued by the hunter willing to wait to hunt it. We cannot judge the value of any hunt through our eyes unless we are the applicant.
A 34” wide mule deer is in my mind worth the wait. I have never missed a hunting season applying for it nor gone to bed hungry spending application and license fee money for the points.
So I have not lost anything other than some cash, and that’s always replaceable.
Post by: SI Eagle on July 06, 2019, 07:42:37 AM
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Post by: hoytxl2009 on July 14, 2019, 08:50:38 AM
Drew Snake River Elk tag after 16 years. Been scouting there in the past and will continue but any help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated. ThanksDid you draw the rifle or archery tag?