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Title: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on July 08, 2019, 09:04:04 PM
I have been doing some shooting at 1k on paper from a bench.  I was talking with some other shooters and think it would be fun to have a cold bore 1000 yard hit challenge.  If we could get some people together we could throw some money in.  I was thinking (20) people or so would make it a good challenge.  A 12" plate at 1000 to represent a kill zone on an elk.  This would be a solo shoot.  No body spotting for you or giving wind calls. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Stein on July 08, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
I would take a stab at it, I only drop 31 feet give or take.  I imagine the 530 ft lbs left would at least wiggle the steel when I hit it.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: fishngamereaper on July 08, 2019, 09:25:09 PM
Depending on the when and where... Caliber restrictions...? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on July 08, 2019, 09:50:18 PM
I’m thinking 338 and less.  More doing it for hunting type rifles to see how confident I feel in my wind calls and hits.  I would bring my 338 Edge.  Maybe if people list there locations we can get and idea of where to shoot at.  I have a few spots in mind up near Snoqualmie pass that you can shoot rocks at 960 and 1197
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 08, 2019, 10:36:56 PM
Woods are shutting down fast so better do it if you are gonna do it. My spot on state land got posted emergency closures this weekend. Sucks because I can get 700 all the way out past 2500 yards in that spot.


Also I'd say 30 cal and under. .338's are cheating :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 08, 2019, 11:24:00 PM
You go first - Ill share my elevation clicks if you share your windage clicks.  Hehe.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 09, 2019, 12:15:43 AM
How about we shoot for pink slips?  :chuckle: ;) :)
 
- Multiple targets.
- No laser rangefinders.
- No spotters (calling wind holds).
- Limited time constraints.
- Shifty winds.
- High-angle targets.
- Different shooting positions.

Or we could all just go shoot a side match at an NRL or PRS match. Haha!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 09, 2019, 04:39:07 AM
Sounds like fun to me. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Craig on July 09, 2019, 02:10:18 PM
I wouldn’t mind giving it a try. Depending when or where.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: yorketransport on July 09, 2019, 02:36:55 PM

Also I'd say 30 cal and under. .338's are cheating :chuckle:

Dang small bore shooters............ :chuckle:
I just want to show up with my 20" barreled 375 Ruger and show you guys how it's done lobbing 300gr Partitions at like 2650 fps. If that doesn't work I'll drag out the 338 SnipeTac pistol. :tup:

I'd actually like to see it go the other direction, sort of like hunter's BR matches. Have a minimum bore diameter and case capacity. Something like .30 minimum and 75gr case capacity or greater and no muzzle brakes.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: yorketransport on July 09, 2019, 02:38:35 PM
How about we shoot for pink slips?  :chuckle: ;) :)
 
- Multiple targets.
- No laser rangefinders.
- No spotters (calling wind holds).
- Limited time constraints.
- Shifty winds.
- High-angle targets.
- Different shooting positions.

Or we could all just go shoot a side match at an NRL or PRS match. Haha!

Then we'd all have to shoot muzzle braked 20# guns in a 6mm of some kind and complain about recoil like all the PRS shooters. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 09, 2019, 02:57:41 PM
How about we shoot for pink slips?  :chuckle: ;) :)
 
- Multiple targets.
- No laser rangefinders.
- No spotters (calling wind holds).
- Limited time constraints.
- Shifty winds.
- High-angle targets.
- Different shooting positions.

Or we could all just go shoot a side match at an NRL or PRS match. Haha!

Then we'd all have to shoot muzzle braked 20# guns in a 6mm of some kind and complain about recoil like all the PRS shooters. :chuckle:
True story.  :chuckle:

Though some of those guys would surely give the big magnums a run for their money on cold bore 1000 yard shots.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on July 09, 2019, 03:37:47 PM
That would be interesting.  No muzzle breaks.  Ouch.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 09, 2019, 03:44:17 PM
How about we shoot for pink slips?  :chuckle: ;) :)
 
- Multiple targets.
- No laser rangefinders.
- No spotters (calling wind holds).
- Limited time constraints.
- Shifty winds.
- High-angle targets.
- Different shooting positions.

Or we could all just go shoot a side match at an NRL or PRS match. Haha!

Then we'd all have to shoot muzzle braked 20# guns in a 6mm of some kind and complain about recoil like all the PRS shooters. :chuckle:
True story.  :chuckle:

Though some of those guys would surely give the big magnums a run for their money on cold bore 1000 yard shots.


Yep. There's plenty of 'em that own big thumpers and can get it done waaaay out past 1K.

Running my 6 Dasher that tips the scales at 24 lbs. certainly helps for settling the crosshairs down quickly, and watching trace and impact is awesome...and mandatory for competition. The thing doesn't recoil off target regardless of whatever hairbrained structure they make us shoot off.  Whacking a target at 1K with the little 105's out of the Dasher is pretty easy but the little pills get pushed around pretty quickly in variable winds. Plus, barking off 12 rounds in rapid succession is fine in the Dasher, but isn't conducive for long barrel life with the canyon crossers.

If I had the choice and needed to make a first round impact at 1K, I'd grab my 300 RUM Sendero contoured backpackable hunting rig every single time. That beast is a death ray and those 210's scooting out at 3150 fps are absolute hammers!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 09, 2019, 04:04:24 PM
Who needs brakes :dunno:
Probably helps when your built like a ogre
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 09, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
Who needs brakes :dunno:
Probably helps when your built like a ogre

Not to derail the thread, but how do you like the results of that GoPro Adapter?  I've used every adapter kit PhoneSkope has ever made over the years (except for the GoPro) and always feel like my blood pressure skyrockets trying to get the damn things to get installed, stable, focused on an animal, and stay focused without a some weird vignetting.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 09, 2019, 06:07:48 PM
Who needs brakes :dunno:
Probably helps when your built like a ogre

Not to derail the thread, but how do you like the results of that GoPro Adapter?  I've used every adapter kit PhoneSkope has ever made over the years (except for the GoPro) and always feel like my blood pressure skyrockets trying to get the damn things to get installed, stable, focused on an animal, and stay focused without a some weird vignetting.
im using nova grade, I removed the phone holder part and my GoPro fits right in the hole.  So no lining up.  Slip it in and link to gopro on my phone.  It’s awesome! Shoot me a pm if you have any questions 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 09, 2019, 06:24:30 PM
Who needs brakes :dunno:
Probably helps when your built like a ogre

Not to derail the thread, but how do you like the results of that GoPro Adapter?  I've used every adapter kit PhoneSkope has ever made over the years (except for the GoPro) and always feel like my blood pressure skyrockets trying to get the damn things to get installed, stable, focused on an animal, and stay focused without a some weird vignetting.
im using nova grade, I removed the phone holder part and my GoPro fits right in the hole.  So no lining up.  Slip it in and link to gopro on my phone.  It’s awesome! Shoot me a pm if you have any questions

Thanks Jasnt. I'll check 'em out.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 11, 2019, 05:13:38 PM
Well this thread died fast
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on July 11, 2019, 06:42:39 PM
I’m all for it.   Just didn’t hear much takers of people listing where they live so we
Could find a central location.  I’ll be in Deep Creek range in Mt. next month and will be testing (3) rifles at 1k on paper cold bore.  I have a real switch windy spot on Snoqualmie pass that I can shoot rocks at around 950 and 1200. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: yorketransport on July 11, 2019, 07:55:40 PM
Well this thread died fast

I'm out just because everyone would realize that I can't actually hit anything. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 11, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
Really I think it’s too late in the season for a shoot like this. Bear starts in 3 weeks and other  seasons go till winter.  If anything this should be a spring planning thing or should have been in June.  Too many folks got hunting trips to plann ect.  All that said Im always down for a shoot if it’s close enough and dosent interfere with a hunt.   Most know I’m in deer park just north of Spokane.  Prefer to spend money on components and not traveling. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: h20hunter on July 11, 2019, 09:03:00 PM
I'm in. Will travel, have talked about "dope party" with a few members. Safety is paramount,  call some shots, help others dope their gun etc.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 11, 2019, 09:11:43 PM
Yeah my summer weekends were filled up about 2 months ago :chuckle:

But honestly if its gonna be a shoot for money or "pink slips" pe*%er measuring contest count me out. I'm all about teaching, learning, having fun, but I'm not into "bring your hunting rifle and we can shoot for $20's" and then guys show up with 12+ pound 338's well then yeah I'm out :twocents:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: h20hunter on July 11, 2019, 09:13:49 PM
Yup, not shooting for anything financial.....ok I put a beer or two on the line!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: yorketransport on July 11, 2019, 09:21:00 PM
Yeah my summer weekends were filled up about 2 months ago :chuckle:

But honestly if its gonna be a shoot for money or "pink slips" pe*%er measuring contest count me out. I'm all about teaching, learning, having fun, but I'm not into "bring your hunting rifle and we can shoot for $20's" and then guys show up with 12+ pound 338's well then yeah I'm out :twocents:

Only a 12# gun? I was thinking the 23# SnipeTac pistol.

With a little time to plan, I’ll see if I can convince former forum members Jay.sharkbait and Biggerhammer to make an appearance. That could make for a really interesting day!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 11, 2019, 09:35:03 PM
Haha! If I wanted a couple guys to tell me how much better they are than me I could just save myself the gas money and stay home and play on FB :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on July 11, 2019, 09:37:35 PM
I would like to shoot at Rock Lake in eastern WA sometime.  But can't seem to get a hold of anyone to see whats needed to shoot there. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: h20hunter on July 11, 2019, 09:46:01 PM
The rock lake training class looks cool.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 11, 2019, 10:09:26 PM
I would like to shoot at Rock Lake in eastern WA sometime.  But can't seem to get a hold of anyone to see whats needed to shoot there.
I'll be out there sunday 8)
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 11, 2019, 10:45:34 PM
It'd be nice if there was someplace centrally located that was easily accessible and safe. Say...somewhere around Ellensburg.  I agree about the timing. It's getting to be pretty iffy with fire season coming up.

BTW, I was joking about the pink slips thing. I just love long range shooting and helping people learn how they can improve their shooting.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 12, 2019, 05:04:34 AM
When you guys figure out a time and place I may be down to venture over from the coast...it's hard to find places to shoot over here and would be fun to meet up for a shoot and see how bad I am against everyone  :chuckle: I just stretched out my new rifle to 900 and I can tell I'm already getting hooked..it's a blast to shoot long
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: BNAElkhntr on July 12, 2019, 06:46:18 AM
It'd be nice if there was someplace centrally located that was easily accessible and safe. Say...somewhere around Ellensburg.  I agree about the timing. It's getting to be pretty iffy with fire season coming up.

BTW, I was joking about the pink slips thing. I just love long range shooting and helping people learn how they can improve their shooting.
Its A great Idea But I think its too Late for This year Lets Try for the weekend after Turkey Ends Next Year
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 12, 2019, 06:54:03 AM
I know about a dozen spots around yakima/kittitas counties where a grand plus is attainable for rock busting. Problem is al WDFW lands and BLM are now closed to recreational shooting.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 12, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
Let's plan for a shoot next spring then  :tup:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Matth on July 12, 2019, 07:28:20 AM
hey my elk rifle is a 12 plus lb 338
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: mountainman on July 12, 2019, 06:38:02 PM
Sounds fun, but tend to agree. Wrong time of year to get a good response. Also agree, make it a fun shoot, a teaching/learning from some, and not a d#@k measuring competition. Karl Blanchard had a point for sure😉
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on July 12, 2019, 08:34:25 PM
Agreed.  Should be a learning/teaching thing. First week of June is often a great time to be out shooting.  Not much fire danger only season open is spring bear.  Let’s make it fun not a contest. Maybe not just a grand either but 300,400,500,ect.  Start short and move out so every skill set has a chance.   Maybe start with a zero. Should come up with some rules for safety
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: huntandjeep on July 13, 2019, 06:33:27 PM
I'm in if its around Yakima .
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: h20hunter on July 13, 2019, 06:35:14 PM
Yup. Many of us have steel...set a 12 inch at 200...confirm dope, shoot, spot, call shots, brag and belittle.  Move to 300, repeat!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: cougforester on July 13, 2019, 06:49:55 PM
Yup. Many of us have steel...set a 12 inch at 200...confirm dope, shoot, spot, call shots, brag and belittle.  Move to 300, repeat!

I'll bring my bow!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: yorketransport on July 13, 2019, 07:13:13 PM

I'll bring my bow!

Show off....... :chuckle:

Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: mountainman on July 13, 2019, 07:43:03 PM
Yup. Many of us have steel...set a 12 inch at 200...confirm dope, shoot, spot, call shots, brag and belittle.  Move to 300, repeat!

I'll bring my bow!
Start at 300 😉
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: cougforester on July 13, 2019, 07:55:18 PM
Yup. Many of us have steel...set a 12 inch at 200...confirm dope, shoot, spot, call shots, brag and belittle.  Move to 300, repeat!

I'll bring my bow!
Start at 300 😉

H20 knows my awful lack of rifle skills and would probably agree I've likely got a better shot at hitting something at 200 with the bow than the gun. Needless to say if this pulls together it sounds like a good chance to improve a bit at longer range shooting.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: kisfish on July 13, 2019, 10:46:28 PM
Tag for later
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: opdinkslayer on July 14, 2019, 07:34:53 AM
I’d be into doing this just to meet some guys & hang out all day learning,teaching & shooting. Somebody organize the first annual Hunt Wa 1000 yard milk jug challenge next spring? How bout it boys?
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: CaNINE on July 14, 2019, 09:07:44 AM
I’m in next spring. Would be great to meet you guys and bust up some rocks. I suggest we pick a location where we can set up a camp for the weekend and do different types of shoots. Set up some hunting shot scenarios where the shooter has to improvise a shooting position, firing solution, do 10 burpees, then make a shot in 60 seconds.  :chuckle:

Maybe up in the Table Mountain area?
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Bushcraft on July 14, 2019, 09:18:15 AM
I’m in next spring. Would be great to meet you guys and bust up some rocks. I suggest we pick a location where we can set up a camp for the weekend and do different types of shoots. Set up some hunting shot scenarios where the shooter has to improvise a shooting position, firing solution, do 10 burpees, then make a shot in 60 seconds.  :chuckle:

Maybe up in the Table Mountain area?


 :yeah:  A drive up site where we can camp a bunch of people for a long weekend and have a long COF laid out with a safe backdrop, preferably where we can run some targets out on a four wheeler and service any that go down. I've got a bunch of AR500 plate of various sizes, t-posts, hangers, tank-traps, lots of different shooting height barriers and such.  Probably best to pick a weekend that where there isn't going to be an NRL/PRS match...and we won't know that until the schedule comes out in January.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: opdinkslayer on July 14, 2019, 09:32:35 AM
Make it happen boys, sounds like fun.😎
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on July 14, 2019, 05:40:47 PM
 :yeah: a weekend camping event would be better for us westside guys
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: actionshooter on July 14, 2019, 10:17:41 PM
That does sound fun... a chance to check out different gear also...

I have a lot of steel, spinners and a mover..
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on September 24, 2019, 12:17:27 PM
Bump
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: coachcw on September 25, 2019, 06:35:15 AM
I have a bullet left (i'm in ) but chris doesn't get to bring his fancy g7 thingy.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 25, 2019, 08:55:15 AM
I have a bullet left (i'm in ) but chris doesn't get to bring his fancy g7 thingy.
I get to bring whatever I want sir!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: JJB11B on September 25, 2019, 08:56:13 AM
I wonder if I could get close with my Ruger 6.5 Creedmoor and Sig BDX system. It would be fun to try!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: syoungs on September 25, 2019, 01:54:45 PM
I would be down if we could have it set up in advance so I knew dates.
Ive got a couple ar500 targets and stands that are portable, sized to the vitals of elk, and a handful of quads I could bring for chasing targets!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: JJB11B on September 25, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Well, I’m limited to 800yds if I am going to cheat with my setup. I got out to 711yds and was able to make 4 consecutive hits on a 10” gong
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on September 25, 2019, 06:51:30 PM
Well, I’m limited to 800yds if I am going to cheat with my setup. I got out to 711yds and was able to make 4 consecutive hits on a 10” gong
what limits you to 800
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: JJB11B on September 25, 2019, 07:01:47 PM
Well, I’m limited to 800yds if I am going to cheat with my setup. I got out to 711yds and was able to make 4 consecutive hits on a 10” gong
what limits you to 800
im playing with the Sig BDX system, it’s not really limitations but that’s the limit the scope will do the work for me
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: jasnt on September 25, 2019, 07:07:00 PM
Well, I’m limited to 800yds if I am going to cheat with my setup. I got out to 711yds and was able to make 4 consecutive hits on a 10” gong
what limits you to 800
im playing with the Sig BDX system, it’s not really limitations but that’s the limit the scope will do the work for me
thats a simple fix
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: hogslayer on September 25, 2019, 07:07:22 PM
Big thing for me is finding a place that we can shoot at.  I have reached out to Rock Creek shooting range and couldn't get a hold of anyone. 
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on September 25, 2019, 08:49:15 PM
I’d be in for this it would be fun to meet some new people check out some rifles.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: JJB11B on September 26, 2019, 07:58:59 AM
Thanks to Jasnt for the knock on the noggin to make me think about using the turrets, I now have a starting point for dialing my 1k hold on my turrets, should be very easy to get into the ballpark and adjust from there. I have never played with shooting at stuff past about 500 yards til yesterday. I think I am hooked and want to buy a nightforce scope and another rifle now lol
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 26, 2019, 08:20:03 AM
Thanks to Jasnt for the knock on the noggin to make me think about using the turrets, I now have a starting point for dialing my 1k hold on my turrets, should be very easy to get into the ballpark and adjust from there. I have never played with shooting at stuff past about 500 yards til yesterday. I think I am hooked and want to buy a nightforce scope and another rifle now lol
just a word of caution on that plan. I've set up two BDX systems now for friends and the tracking on both scopes is as bad as I've seen. Once I got them zeroed they did hold zero though so that's a plus.  High likelyhood of you losing your zero and not getting accurate come up if you attempt to get twisty with your scope. If it was me I'd just leave it set as is :twocents:
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: h20hunter on September 26, 2019, 08:22:16 AM
If you want dead nuts tracking just drop that coin on a NF.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: JJB11B on September 26, 2019, 08:24:30 AM
Thanks to Jasnt for the knock on the noggin to make me think about using the turrets, I now have a starting point for dialing my 1k hold on my turrets, should be very easy to get into the ballpark and adjust from there. I have never played with shooting at stuff past about 500 yards til yesterday. I think I am hooked and want to buy a nightforce scope and another rifle now lol
just a word of caution on that plan. I've set up two BDX systems now for friends and the tracking on both scopes is as bad as I've seen. Once I got them zeroed they did hold zero though so that's a plus.  High likelyhood of you losing your zero and not getting accurate come up if you attempt to get twisty with your scope. If it was me I'd just leave it set as is :twocents:
Thank you for that, I was kind of worried about it. I don't think I will be shooting at any deer past about 500 yards with it so for actual hunting I won't mess with it. When I finally sack up the courage to drop some coin on a true long range hunting rig, it will have a NF scope on it. I want to trust the scope.
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: 257wbymagkiller on September 26, 2019, 08:33:09 AM
If we go through with this just for fun I’ll bring my .257 wby topped with vortex 6x24 and twist turrets for fun!
Title: Re: Cold Bore 1k yard challenge
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 26, 2019, 08:36:29 AM
Thanks to Jasnt for the knock on the noggin to make me think about using the turrets, I now have a starting point for dialing my 1k hold on my turrets, should be very easy to get into the ballpark and adjust from there. I have never played with shooting at stuff past about 500 yards til yesterday. I think I am hooked and want to buy a nightforce scope and another rifle now lol
just a word of caution on that plan. I've set up two BDX systems now for friends and the tracking on both scopes is as bad as I've seen. Once I got them zeroed they did hold zero though so that's a plus.  High likelyhood of you losing your zero and not getting accurate come up if you attempt to get twisty with your scope. If it was me I'd just leave it set as is :twocents:
Thank you for that, I was kind of worried about it. I don't think I will be shooting at any deer past about 500 yards with it so for actual hunting I won't mess with it. When I finally sack up the courage to drop some coin on a true long range hunting rig, it will have a NF scope on it. I want to trust the scope.
I've shot quite a few sig scopes and they just continue to miss the mark.  I was pumped to get my hands on that BDX system but it left me seriously wanting.  I get that they wanted to slip it in at a very competitive price point but they skimped where they shouldn't have (like erector system).  It flat out works though. It hits where it is supposed to when that little dot pops up in the reticle.
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