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Title: Anyone using .50/.458 sabots?
Post by: yorketransport on July 09, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
I picked up one of the older stainless Winchester x-150s for a good price ($100) so now it's time to start playing around with it.

The first lesson I learned is that T-7 pellets won't ignite with the musket cap nipple that's on there. The guy I got it from gave me a box of the pellets with the rifle and they worked on the first shot but never again. I didn't really expect them to work, but I had to try! I grabbed some loose powder to try next time out.

I have a good collection of different .452 bullets sitting around from past projects with various handguns (454s and 460s) so that should keep me busy for while. I found the .50 sabots designed for .458 rifle bullets though and those sound more interesting. I'm a heavy bullet guy, so I like the idea of trying 350-400gr bullets designed for the 45-70. I don't know anyone who's used the .50/.458 sabots though so I'm not sure if they're worth trying. I figure if they offered an advantage the more folks would be using them.
Title: Re: Anyone using .50/.458 sabots?
Post by: sjhgraysage on July 09, 2019, 02:42:22 PM
I have sent samples of both Speer and Hornady .458 in 350 grain to a guy on another forum for his penetration testing, both did fine and should be able to shoot through an elk no problem.
Worth a try.
Title: Re: Anyone using .50/.458 sabots?
Post by: Rainier10 on July 09, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
@Sabotloader is on here and seems to have tried everything under the sun for combinations.  It will be interesting to hear his thoughts on it.
Title: Re: Anyone using .50/.458 sabots?
Post by: Sabotloader on July 09, 2019, 04:13:20 PM
I picked up one of the older stainless Winchester x-150s for a good price ($100) so now it's time to start playing around with it.

The first lesson I learned is that T-7 pellets won't ignite with the musket cap nipple that's on there. The guy I got it from gave me a box of the pellets with the rifle and they worked on the first shot but never again. I didn't really expect them to work, but I had to try! I grabbed some loose powder to try next time out.

I have a good collection of different .452 bullets sitting around from past projects with various handguns (454s and 460s) so that should keep me busy for while. I found the .50 sabots designed for .458 rifle bullets though and those sound more interesting. I'm a heavy bullet guy, so I like the idea of trying 350-400gr bullets designed for the 45-70. I don't know anyone who's used the .50/.458 sabots though so I'm not sure if they're worth trying. I figure if they offered an advantage the more folks would be using them.

Just thought I would drop this in... I shoot the Orange MMP .457-.458 sabot with 458 bullets a LOT.  The 458's are designed for a 45-70 a real rifle versus a lot of the other bullets designed for pistols.

Sabot with a 458x300 Lehigh/Knight Bloodline Bullet

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGzc5HFy/Lehigh300DOA.jpg)

These sabots and the available 458 bullets are normally very accurate for me.



Title: Re: Anyone using .50/.458 sabots?
Post by: yorketransport on July 09, 2019, 04:54:02 PM

Just thought I would drop this in... I shoot the Orange MMP .457-.458 sabot with 458 bullets a LOT.  The 458's are designed for a 45-70 a real rifle versus a lot of the other bullets designed for pistols.

Sabot with a 458x300 Lehigh/Knight Bloodline Bullet

(https://i.postimg.cc/hGzc5HFy/Lehigh300DOA.jpg)

These sabots and the available 458 bullets are normally very accurate for me.

Good info, thanks!

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