Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:14:32 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 12:18:43 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:20:23 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 12:20:49 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/regulations/summary-of-seasons/deer
Post by: HillHound on July 25, 2019, 12:22:08 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:25:08 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 12:25:34 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 12:33:42 PM
Bush I know it starts sept 1st. Rifle also has a start date it just happens to be oct 12th.... why do they also than impeach the archery season with the sept 15th?? I would have zero problems if archery also had a high buck that started about August 15th. Evan Steven. By your logic, rifle starts oct 12th and you should have no high hunt.
High Buck is any weapon. And yes, I've seen guys take to the hills with pointy sticks and front-stuffers during that time frame.
For what it's worth, if they are good hunters and have spent some time scouting I think archers can be successful during High Buck. There are spots in each of the areas I like to hunt where ambushing a decent buck is totally doable with a bow. I drew a multi-season tag last year considered doing it, but ended up heading to Idaho for elk with some friends.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:36:29 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:37:31 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 12:47:28 PM
Or they should get rid of high buck hunt and if guys want to hunt deer in September they can archery hunt it.
Get rid of High Buck???
Heresy!!!
How dare you open another can of worms in the same thread! :chuckle:
Post by: mburrows on July 25, 2019, 12:50:44 PM
Kinda hard to complain about WA archery deer seasons in my opinion.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:51:15 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 12:52:21 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:52:56 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:53:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 12:53:57 PM
Burrows, again it is to expand opportunity. And the rut hunt should be a month long also for archery guys😉
You can only expand opportunity so much before there's too much opportunity.
:twocents:
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 12:55:00 PM
Jackelope nope need more. At least a week or two in August
Plenty of time to find a deer to shoot. There's some responsibility for game management in all of this too.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 12:55:55 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 25, 2019, 01:00:34 PM
Archers get 30 days to hunt in sept and share 10 of those days with guns there is still 3 weeks of archery season with no gun hunters. If you don’t want to hunt with the gun hunters pick days that aren’t when rifles are out there.
Post by: headshot5 on July 25, 2019, 01:02:40 PM
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I’m mainly joking about expanding rut hunt, but the high archery hunt mid August is only fair
Fair to the bear hunters?
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:03:46 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on July 25, 2019, 01:07:48 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:12:04 PM
Post by: jstone on July 25, 2019, 01:14:02 PM
I packed into the wilderness above lake Wenatchee last year for the archery opener and there was already 3-4 guys camping in my area hunting bears. This year I will try to get in a few miles deeper if they are in there again, they shot a bear opening day of archery deer so I didn’t see many deer
Post by: bobcat on July 25, 2019, 01:18:02 PM
High buck is wilderness only. If a bow hunter wants first crack hunt the first 2 weeks of the season before high buck opens. Then while high buck is going on hunt ouside the wilderness or another wilderness that's not open to high buck. Then after high buck go back if you like that area. Archery gets first crack for 2 weeks in those areas. :twocents: just my thoughts. Seems fair and seems to be exactly what your asking for. Its already happening.
:yeah: Just what I was going to post. The early modern firearm hunt is September 15-25. You have two weeks to hunt prior to that. That very first week of September is going to be the best time to hunt anyway. You get to hunt while they're still in their summer feeding patterns, right out in the open. Archers don't need more time in August to hunt.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:18:06 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:18:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on July 25, 2019, 01:26:41 PM
Bobcat couldn’t disagree more. August 15-25 early high ARCHERY ONLY hunt
Good luck. Not gonna happen.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:29:42 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on July 25, 2019, 01:30:22 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:38:04 PM
Post by: KP-Skagit on July 25, 2019, 01:50:59 PM
I’ve got no problem with sharing with bear hunters as I will be looking for bears also...
So we will share the mountain with bear hunters packing rifles but not with deer hunters packing rifles. I can follow the logic... ?
Every rifle hunter I know who has picked up a bow has done so for more opportunity. I am considering doing the same but my dad is too old to bow hunt and hunting with him is 95% the point of being out there.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 01:52:08 PM
Post by: mburrows on July 25, 2019, 02:04:52 PM
I actually wish WA would trim back all mule deer general season hunting make it all draw only the same way Colorado does it.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:08:09 PM
Post by: mburrows on July 25, 2019, 02:14:02 PM
Post by: Bushcraft on July 25, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
Evan with the longer season rifle success rates are still significantly better than archery gear. So that should tell us all two things. 1. Rifle hunting is easy. And 2. Archery season should be expanded.
But that's not at all accurate.
Making a clean kill with a rifle is certainly easier at longer ranges than with a bow, but it's not necessarily easier to notch a tag for reasons that have already been mentioned. Namely, bucks tend to be in bachelor herds up in the open alpine environments earlier in the season, particularly when they are still in velvet. Rifle season? Not so much, if at all. If someone with a little time on their hands can't figure out how to find, pattern and harvest one during early September with a bow, then I'd submit they aren't very proficient hunters regardless of the weapon they are using. Then too, archers also get a crack at them during the rut when any school kid can practically walk up to them when they are out of their minds chasing does around.
Furthermore, I'll readily submit that success rates during rifle season are due to rifles being inherently more accurate and an order of magnitude more lethal than archery gear. I would LOVE to know how many animals are shot at every year by archers, muzzle loaders and modern rifles, and then the percentages that were hit, then the percentages that were drilled in the vitals, then the percentage(s) that were recovered or not. I could be opening up yet another can of worms on this thread, but I suspect archers wound or kill a shockingly higher percentage of animals that aren't recovered.
For those reasons, I wouldn't be supportive of "more opportunity" for the archery crowd. I'd be supportive of those that choose to take up the bow and arrow to become better hunters. [edit to add] And for that matter, all hunters should strive to become better hunters.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:23:53 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 02:30:00 PM
Bush that would be interesting data for sure. Any slob can shoot a rifle... it’s that easy. I hate to break that to you. My 6 year old can literally shoot a rifle and hit the target... you actually have to practice and have some skill shooting a bow to be accurate. Also I’ll mention that it is unethical to shoot anything past 500, and even at 500 it is pure laziness that you can’t sneak into less than 100.... it’s called spot and stalk, not spot and bang...
If you're here to troll and insult people who hunt with rifles, you'll find your time here will be severely limited. Have some respect for other fellow hunters, leave the "any slob" comments out of the discussion and feel free to continue your civil discussion. Keep dropping the slob type comments and this conversation will end in a hurry.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:50:48 PM
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:52:05 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 02:52:28 PM
You really censored my comments over the word slob.... gezzzz I’d hate to see how bad you flip over an actual insult
I'm deleting your posts that are not necessary and don't fit into the conversation.
There's a difference.
Post by: baker5150 on July 25, 2019, 02:54:07 PM
Bush that would be interesting data for sure. Any slob can shoot a rifle... it’s that easy. I hate to break that to you. My 6 year old can literally shoot a rifle and hit the target... you actually have to practice and have some skill shooting a bow to be accurate. Also I’ll mention that it is unethical to shoot anything past 500, and even at 500 it is pure laziness that you can’t sneak into less than 100.... it’s called spot and stalk, not spot and bang...
You must be trolling.
One reply you say we all need to stick together as hunters
Then you bash on rifle guys..
Your part of the problem, not the solution.
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
Again all it is friendly banter back and forth...
Your comments do not make for friendly banter back and forth. Reread what you wrote. You're trolling. Call it a day. This isn't Facebook.
Post by: Troutpounder on July 25, 2019, 02:56:36 PM
Post by: jackelope on July 25, 2019, 02:57:08 PM
Not gonna do this.
Post by: bearpaw on July 25, 2019, 03:06:27 PM