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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: rasbo on April 01, 2009, 03:48:57 PM

Title: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: rasbo on April 01, 2009, 03:48:57 PM: Lets hear some opinions please :hello:
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Slider on April 01, 2009, 04:25:59 PM: Would it be for trying to stop a charge or to harvest one? :dunno:
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: rasbo on April 01, 2009, 04:28:43 PM: Quote from: Slider on April 01, 2009, 04:25:59 PM
Would it be for trying to stop a charge or to harvest one? :dunno:
its to harvest under 20 yrds
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Slider on April 01, 2009, 06:06:24 PM: A Black Bear?
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Gutpile on April 01, 2009, 06:15:45 PM: I would think any 240grn SP would do the trick but the nosler partition handgun bullet is awesome as are hornady's XTP's. I use Hornady XTP's and while I've never shot a bear with a handgun I wouldn't hesitate with that load. Buffalo Bore makes some great handgun hunting loads you may want to consider.
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Slider on April 01, 2009, 06:29:54 PM: If it's a Black Bear Gutpiles on the right track. SP240gr. I would even go soft,solid,soft solid. Any thing bigger I would look at a 300gr hot load. Or better yet a 460 or 500 mag!!! Here is a link to some hot 44 mag.

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/44mag.asp
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: KillBilly on April 01, 2009, 06:45:03 PM: Hell Rasbo, tell it one of your YAR jokes...while it's laughing it's ass off, sneak in and cut it's throat
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: rasbo on April 01, 2009, 08:03:22 PM: thanks guys,gut is going to send me some hot loads I really want to take one with my handgun...heey killbilly im gonna tell the bear what your call is going to look like,that will get him laughing :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Bofire on April 02, 2009, 01:30:58 PM: :)I have cut two 240 grain winchester Soft points out of a black bear. They penetrated into the neck about 3 inches, no mush room, I dont think they hurt the bear one bit. delivered from about 10 feet from a 7.5 inch barrel Blackhawk. The bear was killed with a 30/06 in the end. it was a black bear about 250-300 lbs.

I would use nothing less then the Garrett hard cast. about 325 grain or larger. I would not even consider any soft point or hollow point.

I ahve been in on taking 3 blacks with hand guns.
my experience
Carl
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Huntbear on April 02, 2009, 02:08:26 PM: I handload, and my bullet of choice is a 300 gr. Sierra jacketed Soft Point. They will not even expand on a deer, but work like magic on elk, and someday hopefully a bear.
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Huntbear on April 02, 2009, 02:41:42 PM: This would do the trick for ya Rasbo. Just yell out those ballistics as you walk into the woods. The bears will die of fright and all you have to do is pick them up.

GARRETT'S 44 MAG HAMMERHEAD AMMO
$85 / 50 CTGS

31O-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST HAMMERHEAD AT 1325-FPS

THIS 44 MAGNUM AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE IN TC CONTENDERS AND ALL STEEL 44 MAGNUM REVOLVERS IN GOOD CONDITION EXCEPT FOR THE TAURUS TRACKER.

ENERGY: 1200 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 25; MEPLAT: .320"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 38,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .239; TRAJECTORY: +2" @ 50-YDS; ZERO @ 100-YDS; -8" @ 150-YDS
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: rasbo on April 02, 2009, 02:58:05 PM: Quote from: Huntbear on April 02, 2009, 02:41:42 PM
This would do the trick for ya Rasbo. Just yell out those ballistics as you walk into the woods. The bears will die of fright and all you have to do is pick them up.

GARRETT'S 44 MAG HAMMERHEAD AMMO
$85 / 50 CTGS

31O-GR SUPER-HARD-CAST HAMMERHEAD AT 1325-FPS

THIS 44 MAGNUM AMMUNITION IS RECOMMENDED FOR USE IN TC CONTENDERS AND ALL STEEL 44 MAGNUM REVOLVERS IN GOOD CONDITION EXCEPT FOR THE TAURUS TRACKER.

ENERGY: 1200 FT/LBS; TAYLOR KNOCKOUT VALUE: 25; MEPLAT: .320"; CHAMBER PRESSURE: 38,000-CUP; SECTIONAL DENSITY: .239; TRAJECTORY: +2" @ 50-YDS; ZERO @ 100-YDS; -8" @ 150-YDS
thats funny..gutpile has made up something for my hunt..he says they will get it done..I will be close if I get one to come in..
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Intruder on April 02, 2009, 03:23:20 PM: Buffalo Bore or Winchester Platinum are both good and they make it in some big slugs.
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Bofire on April 02, 2009, 08:22:53 PM: Believe what you want, from someone who has done it or someone who talks abut it. I am not sure what impact price has on performance. :chuckle:
Carl :)
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 02, 2009, 09:09:39 PM: I'd probably stick with 300 jacketed softpoints. I took a deer at 10 yards, in the neck with a 240 jacketed soft point factory ammo, out of a 7.5 inch superblackhawk, and it did not exit. It did not hit bone as well. It did mushroom though. I keep thinkin the 300 would be better.

Rasbo, if you see a guy up there with a Encore in his hand give a holler, it's probably me walking back to my truck after a calling session with a spring bear.
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: wilywin on May 02, 2009, 06:56:18 PM: The biggest dear i ever got was with a .44mag. It was a rifle but i had some Hornady 240grn XTP's. I shot them thru my ruger m77 .44mag rifle and they drive tac's at 100 yards. I busted a real nice 5pt at 35 yards. Double lung shot. He ran about 40-50 yards and dropped! Didnt ruin any meat! Later on that day my uncle filled his doe tag with same gun. 80 yards right thru the lungs.
Title: Re: BEST FACTORY 44MAG FOR BEAR AMMO
Post by: cohoho on May 03, 2009, 08:21:22 AM: Never had a Black Bear walk away from a 44 mag wound and have gotten several that way.... Use the hard cast, heaviest you can find. As folks have mentioned the Buffalo rounds are what I used. Black bears die just as easily as every other game if properly hit. No need to go out and buy a 460 or 500... Over kill IMO... Unless you want one then that a different story altogether...