Post by: ThomMedic on September 11, 2019, 11:35:58 AM
Partner and I want to avoid trouble so I called the WDFW myself. In essence I was told we can't help her or her property until deer season. I realize now there was much information he did not give.
Partner sent me the RCWs (220-440-200) and they contradicted the tree-hugger. But even what I read seemed to contradict itself. It begins with "Nothing in this section prevents a landowner from protecting their property." Then the rest places so many restrictions as to almost tie our hands.
Any thoughts or information on this. Thanks
Post by: 2MANY on September 11, 2019, 11:41:31 AM
If an arrow was shot would it be heard????
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Post by: andrew_in_idaho on September 11, 2019, 11:54:13 AM
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Post by: KFhunter on September 11, 2019, 12:04:50 PM
Post by: idaho guy on September 11, 2019, 12:09:23 PM
Wildlife belongs to the public, even when it is on private property. You can hunt them in season with the proper tags. I only know how depredation works in Idaho but I’m guessing it would be similar in Washington. Until the WDFW offers you the equivalent to IDFG’s depredation tag or kill permit you would be poaching if you were to kill deer even on private property outside of legal hunting seasons and methods. I can guarantee you that Thurston county has exactly zero authority to allow you to kill deer outside of WDFW seasons.
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:yeah: You cant shoot the deer without tags and open season. A lot of people get depredation tags in Idaho but she would need to be protecting a cash crop not her flowers. Unless Washington is completely different I would not even consider it without a tag
Post by: nwwanderer on September 11, 2019, 01:08:11 PM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 11, 2019, 01:14:13 PM
Post by: Its_Raining_Brass on September 11, 2019, 01:17:20 PM
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Post by: grade-creek-rd on September 11, 2019, 03:46:08 PM
I'm not too familiar with Steamboat Island but be sure to check before you go there with a bow or crossbow in hand...and also have your friend check to make sure she doesn't have any Home Owners Association (HOA's) that prohibits it either, though that is a civil matter it still causes a mess...
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Post by: ThomMedic on September 11, 2019, 04:54:29 PM
Post by: Mudman on September 11, 2019, 05:02:05 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on September 11, 2019, 05:57:45 PM
State would probably put out a grant to have the deer with a special pigment studied. But they might see them as a special breed and protect them with a closed season.
Ya never know :chuckle:
Or they might view them as non native and issue a kill permit so they don’t breed with wild populations. :bdid: :lol4: :lol4:
Post by: fishnfur on September 14, 2019, 02:38:47 PM
Post by: Sneaky on September 17, 2019, 06:33:42 AM
Harassment with a paintball gun is an excellent idea. The other quality idea was the tribal hunter option. The close by Squaxin tribe hunts that area. I have no doubt they would love to help her out. I'm not too sure they follow the gun laws too closely though......... Perhaps a chat with the tribal elders might be worth consideration.
treaty hunting rights do not apply to private lands
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 17, 2019, 06:44:22 AM
Even as a landowner you can't just kill deer because you don't want them there. That would be considered poaching. Put up a good fence.
That's funny! I don't know of a farmer that doesn't put two or three deer in their freezer and the freezers of their neighbors every year. I've had this discussion with WDFW officers before, when the state starts paying crop loss and trespass fees for state game they can start regulating farmers shooting them out of their orchards and crops.
Not sure that one will hold up in court
Post by: bobcat on September 17, 2019, 09:53:54 AM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/kittitas-county-man-fined-heavily-for-wasting-deer/
Post by: Woodchuck on September 17, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
Seems like sound legal advice... :o NOT!!!Even as a landowner you can't just kill deer because you don't want them there. That would be considered poaching. Put up a good fence.
That's funny! I don't know of a farmer that doesn't put two or three deer in their freezer and the freezers of their neighbors every year. I've had this discussion with WDFW officers before, when the state starts paying crop loss and trespass fees for state game they can start regulating farmers shooting them out of their orchards and crops.
Not sure that one will hold up in court
Never make it to a court. I've had game officers tell me that you can't kill deer out of your orchard or out of your garden, then turn around and say straight up, "of course who would know if you did". Common sense as always, its not a license to go into the commercial venison business. If a farmer is losing crops aka money from his business due to wild game, have no doubt we will kill that game or other nuisance animal.
Post by: dwils233 on September 17, 2019, 11:46:20 AM
Even as a landowner you can't just kill deer because you don't want them there. That would be considered poaching. Put up a good fence.
That's funny! I don't know of a farmer that doesn't put two or three deer in their freezer and the freezers of their neighbors every year. I've had this discussion with WDFW officers before, when the state starts paying crop loss and trespass fees for state game they can start regulating farmers shooting them out of their orchards and crops.
Not sure that one will hold up in court
Never make it to a court. I've had game officers tell me that you can't kill deer out of your orchard or out of your garden, then turn around and say straight up, "of course who would know if you did". Common sense as always, its not a license to go into the commercial venison business. If a farmer is losing crops aka money from his business due to wild game, have no doubt we will kill that game or other nuisance animal.
Man I swear I heard a definition for that kind of behavior somewhere in this thread. If there is an issue, continue to elevate it- WDFW, local politicians, state politicians, WDFW citizen committees, different contacts at WDFW, Ag lobbying groups, etc. Squeaky wheel gets the grease eventually. I'm sure plenty of youth hunters/disabled/any other antlerless tag holder would be more than happy to lend a hand, but there is really no excuse for the unauthorized take of public wildlife
Post by: Craig on September 18, 2019, 11:04:35 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on September 18, 2019, 11:14:40 AM
I live on Steamboat island RD. Deer everywhere. I had 3 bucks in my backyard last night. We like watching them and I don’t hunt them. I have a small food plot for them. That’s part of living out here.
I can't even imagine shooting a deer on an area as small as SB Island :chuckle:
Post by: Goldeneye on September 18, 2019, 11:38:13 AM
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Post by: fishnfur on September 18, 2019, 03:05:48 PM
This is the island your talking about? Seems to be pretty populated...
I scratched my head when I looked at it too. Turns out the OP said "near Steamboat" not on.