Post by: zwickeyman on October 25, 2019, 01:46:34 PM
Of course there are tons of Tipi's and hybrid Tipi's but looking for more headroom with less footprint
The only one I can find is the Seek Outside Courthouse and it fits the bill but looking for options
Thanks, Dave
Post by: kselkhunter on October 25, 2019, 01:55:39 PM
I carry the 8-man tipi from Seek Outside. I pack it and the stove in for snow trips by myself, and will be doing so again next week. I also have the "nest room" for it, which comes in handy sometimes for summer time trips when I bring the wife and dogs with me on a backpacking trip. The 8.5 foot height is nice for moving around inside. I can understand not wanting the large diameter that it has, but I've yet to have a problem finding a spot to put it. And 4 guys plus gear is easy inside it, with room to spare (depending on how much firewood I choose to pile up inside it).
Good luck with your search.
Post by: zwickeyman on October 25, 2019, 02:00:29 PM
Definitely looking at the 8 man but with a 16' diameter it concerns me. I think the redcliff is a little small as I already have a 4 man Tipi
Post by: kselkhunter on October 25, 2019, 02:07:10 PM
I had to set the 8 man up on a bit of a slant, but it worked out.
Post by: zwickeyman on October 26, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
Looks to me I definitely want the ability to have 4 with a stove even though most of the time will be 2 or 3 with a stove. That 8 man is a monster. I like the weight of the 8 man and the foot print of the courthouse
Thanks for the insight
Post by: boneaddict on October 26, 2019, 09:25:15 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on October 26, 2019, 09:27:27 AM
That 12.5lbs of the Courthouse is with two 8ft aluminum poles. Those poles are roughly the same height as my 8-man pole, which the aluminum one weighs 2.2lbs so that is 4.4lbs for the two poles. You can switch to their carbon fiber poles, which weigh 1.2lbs each. So the 12.5lbs drops to 10.5lbs if you switch to carbon fiber.
Also, I frequently do not pack a pole if there is no snow on the ground. I just cut the top off of a deadfall tree and use that as my pole in the tipi. Saves me the extra weight to pack in the pole. So around 6lbs for my 8 man (as I have the dual screens) w/stakes if I skip the pole, plus if I bring the liners that's adds another 1/2 lb. For that Courthouse without the poles you'd be right at 8lbs with stakes, etc.
Note: my weights above are from weighing my actual aluminum and carbon fiber poles just now. Looking at their website it says you only save 11ounces per pole changing to carbon fiber. It's possible my old carbon fiber pole is lighter than the newer models. Not sure. I just know what my scale just showed.
Also, with 30 stakes in that Courthouse, you can switch the aluminum stakes out to titanium stakes and probably save another half a pound.
Of course you still have another 3-4lbs for the stove, depending on which size you go with.
Post by: boneaddict on October 26, 2019, 10:03:09 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on October 26, 2019, 10:36:43 AM
This is way better than 3 guys packing their own 2 person tents at about 4# each
I'm liking this idea more and more, thanks for your input
Post by: kselkhunter on October 26, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
For titanium stakes, I switched my aluminum out to these. I really like the bright orange heads on them as they're easier to find.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OPKGAO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Seek Outside customer service is great. One year I had set my tipi up at an angle and snow load snapped my carbon fiber pole. Called Seek and they sent me the section that broke for free, even though I told them it was my fault for improper setup and was willing to pay for it. This year I noticed their stoves have the sliding intake controls now. My original XL stove didn't have that, so I called and asked if I can buy one of those intakes for it. They said those older stoves didn't have one, but they did later do a retrofit slider and sent me one of those...again free of charge. Their customer support is excellent.
Good luck with your research and decision.
Post by: bracer40 on October 26, 2019, 02:23:31 PM
Post by: kselkhunter on October 26, 2019, 02:55:05 PM
I’d imagine that using natural poles one could gain some addl hanging points for hanging socks and such items needing to be dried?
Yep. I always leave a few branch nubs on the "poles" that I cut. Comes in handy for hanging boots to dry, gravity feed water filter, and other items.
But for most clothes drying, one of those cheap backpack clothes line strings from REI or Amazon fits nicely in the upper loops around my tipi that you tie the liners into. I string the clothesline around the interior on those loops, and it works quite well for most items. For heavy wet jackets and pants, it gets to be too much weight so I just make a little tripod of branches to use for hanging the heavy stuff on.
Post by: Tim in Wa. on October 27, 2019, 06:42:29 AM
Tim
Post by: boneaddict on October 27, 2019, 08:53:03 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on October 27, 2019, 09:31:04 AM
Do you have a guess how much more stand up room the Courthouse has over the Redcliff?
Bone, thats a fact. This needs to be a spring purchase
Post by: Tim in Wa. on October 27, 2019, 09:38:11 AM
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Post by: boneaddict on October 27, 2019, 10:03:04 AM
Post by: 92xj on October 27, 2019, 10:39:42 AM
Looking at the weather on my next roadtrip, Im thinking the Mrs might appreciate a woodstove instead of the 4 season. LOL I dont want to pack the walltent. I wish you guys would have talked about this last spring. :chuckle:
If you're traveling through the tricities you can grab my 10x14 Kodiak canvas and woodstove for your trip. I won't be using it anymore this year.
Post by: boneaddict on October 27, 2019, 12:32:26 PM
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Post by: zwickeyman on January 02, 2020, 11:09:01 PM
I think I have a little paralysis by analysis going on
Post by: zwickeyman on January 02, 2020, 11:12:12 PM
I would probably run my Lite Outdoors 18"
Post by: boneaddict on January 05, 2020, 07:52:42 AM
I haven't ordered anything yet. Still trying to decide between the Courthouse and the 8 man tipi. I really like the courthouse but where I pack in for Mule Deer can get some serious wind and the 8 man can handle it better.
I think I have a little paralysis by analysis going on
That’s exactly where I am!!! I like the ease of set up with the 8 man and probably handle wind and snow better, but think you get more living space in the courthouse.
Post by: zwickeyman on January 05, 2020, 10:20:54 AM
I haven't ordered anything yet. Still trying to decide between the Courthouse and the 8 man tipi. I really like the courthouse but where I pack in for Mule Deer can get some serious wind and the 8 man can handle it better.
I think I have a little paralysis by analysis going on
That’s exactly where I am!!! I like the ease of set up with the 8 man and probably handle wind and snow better, but think you get more living space in the courthouse.
I agree 100%
I like the stand up room and smaller footprint of the Courthouse
I like the price,storm worthiness and ease of set up of the 8 man
Post by: Jingles on January 10, 2020, 04:32:45 PM
PM me for the number if interested