Post by: HoofsandWings on October 29, 2019, 07:33:47 AM
Opening day, I got too close to a wolf's kill along Oak Creek and a wolf growled at me. Other people had seen wolves further up the creek. I saw tracks on the hillside above the 1400 road.
Long story short, none of the hunters I talked to saw any elk in the area. However, at higher elevations, hunters were seeing elk.
Post by: coachcw on October 29, 2019, 08:17:27 AM
Post by: boneaddict on October 29, 2019, 08:56:01 AM
Have any of you seen wolves in the Bethel unit?
Opening day, I got too close to a wolf's kill along Oak Creek and a wolf growled at me. Other people had seen wolves further up the creek. I saw tracks on the hillside above the 1400 road.
Long story short, none of the hunters I talked to saw any elk in the area. However, at higher elevations, hunters were seeing elk.
Ive tracked them, but havent seen them
Post by: MarkTrail on October 29, 2019, 10:14:30 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 29, 2019, 10:18:20 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 29, 2019, 10:20:35 AM
Post by: MarkTrail on October 29, 2019, 10:39:45 AM
Post by: 2MANY on October 29, 2019, 11:21:45 AM
Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
Karl,
Since you are that close would you please fix the timing on the traffic signal between Naches and Yakima.
I'm sick and tired of getting stopped at it.
Thanks for your continued support.
Post by: Whitefoot on October 29, 2019, 11:50:26 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on October 29, 2019, 11:51:51 AM
Naches put that light in to make themselves feel like a real town :chuckle:Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
Karl,
Since you are that close would you please fix the timing on the traffic signal between Naches and Yakima.
I'm sick and tired of getting stopped at it.
Thanks for your continued support.
Post by: nitroelk on October 29, 2019, 11:59:04 AM
Post by: Pegasus on October 29, 2019, 12:13:18 PM
Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
In 2017 I spotted two wolves in the Nile 352 GMU and found fresh wolf tracks in the snow in the Bumping unit. Other people hunting 352 also spotted wolves.
Post by: 2MANY on October 29, 2019, 12:40:23 PM
They are just over the west side of the PCT from there.
I'm not directing this at anyone here but I get a big kick out of some people's denial.
The growth across the west has been nothing but epic and swift.
A real success story for those that saw fit to release them.
Soon WA folks will accept and never question the wolves continued range growth.
They are here to stay.
On a positive note it will only be 15 years until the depredation cycle evens out so in the big picture it's a pretty short window of time.
Pathetic.
Post by: Bango skank on October 29, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
I'd also point out that I've run across dozens and dozens of trail cams in that unit. Endless elk pics but nobody gets wolf pics :dunno: doesnt quite add up.
One area that i have very heavy cam coverage is regularly frequented by wolves, i know for a 100% fact. Only ever had 1 on cam there. Also, at one point i had 10 cams up on my 21 acre property, which i would call pretty heavy coverage. Had a wolf go by 1 cam of the 10, and another time i followed wolf tracks in the snow all the way through my property and they missed all 10 cams. Ive heard them howling from my house multiple times, and even had a helicopter chasing them through my place multiple times, but only ever got 1 pic of a single wolf here at home. Also, of those dozens of cams youve run across, how do you know none of them are getting wolf pics? Not everybody posts stuff like that on social media.
Post by: boneaddict on October 29, 2019, 01:20:12 PM
Post by: Cascade on October 29, 2019, 01:28:03 PM
Peaches has a heavy wolf presence now. If Bethel doesnt have wolves it will shortly. Apparantly they are in the Wenas now and this side of the Observatory. That'll fix the sheep pneumonia worries on Clemans in short order.
Unfortunately you're right. Ashbaugh's started seeing wolves in the Wenas 4-5 years ago.
Post by: huntandjeep on October 29, 2019, 05:47:06 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 29, 2019, 06:00:30 PM
I suspect they pass through back and forth from the teanaway to the rimrock and all area's in between. They have a pretty big range.
Post by: ghosthunter on October 29, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
We’re seeing elk every day. One night six of us were woke up by wolf howling above camp. Didn’t see another elk that week.
Just a skip over to Bethel and Bumping from there.
Post by: adamR on October 29, 2019, 06:54:29 PM
Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
Post by: Naches Sportsman on October 29, 2019, 07:17:47 PM
Closest credible sighting and last wolf I've seen a trail cam pic of off a biologists phone was up the north fork rattlesnake early 2018.
Post by: blackpowderhunter on October 29, 2019, 08:45:24 PM
I'm with Karl. There are elk everywhere in Bethel. There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit. I've never seen any sign of them. What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk. Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive. Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...nonsense!Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. :chuckle:
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 29, 2019, 09:19:07 PM
I'm with Karl. There are elk everywhere in Bethel. There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit. I've never seen any sign of them. What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk. Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive. Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...nonsense!Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. :chuckle:
:yeah: next Adam will be saying Mt Goats are so easy to hunt he just has to walk out his back door and shoot. :rolleyes:
Post by: adamR on October 30, 2019, 04:46:54 AM
Also a true statement... 8)I'm with Karl. There are elk everywhere in Bethel. There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit. I've never seen any sign of them. What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk. Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive. Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...nonsense!Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
it's way easier to blame the tag soup on wolves or a full moon. :chuckle:
:yeah: next Adam will be saying Mt Goats are so easy to hunt he just has to walk out his back door and shoot. :rolleyes:
Post by: Fish4Fun on October 30, 2019, 08:40:19 AM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on October 30, 2019, 09:13:56 AM
Post by: gee_unit360 on October 30, 2019, 10:33:25 AM
I'm with Karl. There are elk everywhere in Bethel. There might be a random wolf that has passed through the unit but I live in the unit and recreate from east to west in the unit. I've never seen any sign of them. What I do see, everywhere in the unit, is elk. Get off the road, hunt hard, Bethel can be productive. Or, blame it on the wolves and move on...Im 20 min from bethel and have recreated in the area my whole life. In the last two years alone between my bull tag and JonathanS's bull tag I've spent EASILY 100 days in Bethel and every bit of 30 nights. There is elk EVERYWHERE in that unit and I have yet to see or hear any signs of wolves. Not saying it's not possible but I'm extremely skeptical of all the reported wolf sightings :twocents:
Post by: HoofsandWings on October 30, 2019, 03:37:56 PM
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Post by: HoofsandWings on November 17, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
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Post by: Igor on November 17, 2019, 04:46:17 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 17, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 17, 2019, 04:55:46 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,243878.0.html
Post by: KFhunter on November 22, 2019, 01:15:24 PM
Didn't like the responses you got from your other thread?
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,243878.0.html
Thanks
both threads merged into this one