Post by: CP on November 06, 2019, 07:36:54 AM
How manageable are they?
Do you load them down or use full power loads?
Post by: Rob on November 06, 2019, 08:38:11 AM
Its a hoot to shoot!
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 06, 2019, 08:39:42 AM
Post by: CP on November 07, 2019, 12:44:42 PM
I probably won’t do that but I ordered a 10” .450 BM upper. We will see how it shoots with factory ammo.
If that isn’t much fun to shoot, I’ll get some dies and load it down a bit. I got a bunch of suitable bullets and powder lying around.
Post by: CP on November 14, 2019, 05:07:54 PM
Post by: konradcountry on November 17, 2019, 08:42:57 PM
I've hunted with a 7.5" blackout and a red dot.
I could cheek to a hundred yards but anything past that was kind of sketchy.
Works fine in thick timber where you know there won't be long shots.
Given the choice I'd still rather take a shotgun but the ar pistol is pretty fun.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 17, 2019, 09:16:39 PM
They make a few brakes that might help take it down.
Post by: birdshooter1189 on November 18, 2019, 06:41:50 AM
Post by: CP on November 18, 2019, 06:55:45 AM
I don’t want to brake it but it’s unusable right now with factory ammo and the Shockwave blade that I have on the lower. The hard-plastic blade is downright dangerous; I’d be better off without it.
I few things that I’m considering to tame it:
Replace the Shockwave brace with a SB Tactical SBA4
Add some weight (heaver optic, maybe some lead weights in the brace)
Load down the ammo – I have some 225g FTX, and some other lower velocity suitable projectiles
Hornady is coming out with a subsonic load soon, that may be the ticket.
https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/450-bushmaster-tbd-gr-sub-x#!/
If I can get this thing to behave, I’ll probably get in line for a suppressor for it.
Post by: birdshooter1189 on November 18, 2019, 07:58:54 AM
Something that you may consider if you want to use it with an arm brace, I have a friend who has "shooting shirts" with a sewn in recoil pad in the shoulder of the shirt. I'm not sure if the shirts were home made or commercial. I borrowed one once and it worked nice for shooting a 300 win mag on a bench. I suspect it would work well with an AR arm brace too.
My 450 upper is on a rifle with a standard A-2 stock. I put a Vortex 3-12x56 scope on it. The last 3-shot group i shot with it was about 5" at 50 yds using Federal whitetail classic 300gr hp factory ammo. I was frustrated with that, I then noticed scratch marks on the scope indicating that the scope slid in the rings. It moved about 1/2" until it jammed up on the bell of the scope. I then pulled the scope off and put a bead of JB-weld on top and bottom of the scope rings and then screwed it all back together. I haven't shot it again yet but I'm pretty confident that the scope won't move on me this time. :chuckle:
I'd like to get a suppressor for mine as well and have 3 or 4 loads for it:
1. subsonic quiet load
2. high velocity/light jacketed varmint load
3. high velocity/low expansion "penetrator" load for bear hunting
4. cheap/low recoil plinking load
Post by: JohnVH on November 18, 2019, 08:05:37 AM
Post by: CP on November 18, 2019, 08:45:03 AM
Post by: Rob on November 18, 2019, 08:55:36 AM
The shooting shirt is a good idea. Nothing the BATF can do us for modifying our shirts.
BATF says "hold my beer"
Post by: konradcountry on November 18, 2019, 12:35:08 PM
Yep, Bear Creek. I’ve only had one shooting session with it but I didn’t notice that it was any louder than my .300 BLK pistol. The recoil however isn’t even in the same ballpark as the .300. The recoil calculator gives me 4.5 ft-lbs of recoil energy for the .300 vs 20 ft-lbs for the .450.
4.5 would be a pretty tame subsonic out of a suppressor. So compared to supers around twice that of blackout it sounds like.
That still puts you into 20 gauge recoil....next to your face.
I few things that I’m considering to tame it:
Replace the Shockwave brace with a SB Tactical SBA4
Add some weight (heaver optic, maybe some lead weights in the brace)
Could add a bipod.
I shoot blackout supers and found that I was better with a foam tube over the shockwave and I also use a pretty aggressive angular grip.
But I still prefer a sabot shotgun in a restricted area.
I don't wear a lot of camo and where I go has a lot of California transplants.
So would rather not deal with police calls about some guy with a scary gun.
Post by: CP on November 18, 2019, 01:19:39 PM
Post by: CP on November 22, 2019, 03:20:32 PM
This makes all the difference.
Post by: JohnVH on December 11, 2019, 10:47:56 AM
Post by: CP on December 11, 2019, 01:52:43 PM
My 10.5" Beowulf
Nice. :tup:
Post by: JohnVH on December 11, 2019, 01:54:14 PM
My 10.5" Beowulf
Nice. :tup:
Thanks! It breathes a little fire. let me get a video of it, looks like it can only be downloaded...
Here ya go :D
Post by: Yondering on December 11, 2019, 07:40:34 PM
My 10.5" Beowulf
Nice. :tup:
Thanks! It breathes a little fire. let me get a video of it, looks like it can only be downloaded...
Here ya go :D
Huh! He's actually using that as an arm brace.
Post by: JohnVH on December 11, 2019, 07:42:10 PM
My 10.5" Beowulf
Nice. :tup:
Thanks! It breathes a little fire. let me get a video of it, looks like it can only be downloaded...
Here ya go :D
Huh! He's actually using that as an arm brace.
Rare. I know. Haha.