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Title: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 16, 2019, 08:35:11 AM
After being sick for the first two weeks of the season, then going on 7-12, I finally had three hours to put on the orange and do a little walking around the north side of my own land and found a mineral setup with a trail camera on it. Not Cool!
So, I went back home and printed up a nice little note in a zip lock with a pen. It said: "If you want your camera back and promise not to trespass anymore write your address here and I'll mail it to you".

I think that was more than fair.

Went home and called it a season.  Between health and work, I sure hope next year goes better.  4 hours does not a deer season make!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bowhunter3 on November 16, 2019, 08:41:29 AM
That’s a real bummer about your season. Don’t think you could have handled the trespassing situation any better though :tup: very nice of you.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: CougHunter on November 16, 2019, 10:41:11 AM
Keep us updated if you hear back.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Dark2Dark on November 16, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
My bad- PMing you my address now.

But, in seriousness, it sounds like maybe he did not know it was private? Or is it all fenced and posted?

It seems crazy to me that someone would go to all that work on a property they knew was private!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jimmer on November 16, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
My bad- PMing you my address now.

But, in seriousness, it sounds like maybe he did not know it was private? Or is it all fenced and posted?

It seems crazy to me that someone would go to all that work on a property they knew was private!
You must not own private property.. ha. People have serious balls.. my land is gated with over 15 signs around every possible entry. Yesterday there was a set of two tracks in the snow walking right around the gate. I will  prosecute to the fullest if I catch them..
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: HntnFsh on November 16, 2019, 01:51:11 PM
My bad- PMing you my address now.

But, in seriousness, it sounds like maybe he did not know it was private? Or is it all fenced and posted?

It seems crazy to me that someone would go to all that work on a property they knew was private!
You must not own private property.. ha. People have serious balls.. my land is gated with over 15 signs around every possible entry. Yesterday there was a set of two tracks in the snow walking right around the gate. I will  prosecute to the fullest if I catch them..

Cant blame you for that. People need to learn to respect land owners! Cant tell you how many animals Ive passed on because I didn't have permission on a certain piesce of property at a certain time. Including a couple dandy bulls on property that Ive had ongoing permission to hunt but just neglected to check in before season.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 16, 2019, 07:38:06 PM
If I don't have permission, I don't go there; Period!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: fishnfur on November 16, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
I think you did the right thing.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bango skank on November 16, 2019, 10:04:21 PM
My bad- PMing you my address now.

But, in seriousness, it sounds like maybe he did not know it was private? Or is it all fenced and posted?

It seems crazy to me that someone would go to all that work on a property they knew was private!

There is really no excuse not to know nowadays.  Ignorance is not a reasonable defense.  Even the poorest person can walk to the library and get online and look up a county assessor map if they cant afford a few bucks for hunt on x software.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Taco280AI on November 16, 2019, 10:17:12 PM
I don't think it's ignorance in most cases, I think they know it's private and just don't care.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bango skank on November 16, 2019, 10:20:39 PM
I don't think it's ignorance in most cases, I think they know it's private and just don't care.

Oh i agree.  Just responding to the dude who seens like he wants to use ignorance as a possible defense for the scumbags.  But i do think the majority of tresspassers know damn good and well what theyre doing.  And the ones who dont can pound sand, cayse like i said, theres no valid excuse to not know whos land youre on.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Dark2Dark on November 17, 2019, 02:04:40 AM

I don't think it's ignorance in most cases, I think they know it's private and just don't care.

Oh i agree.  Just responding to the dude who seens like he wants to use ignorance as a possible defense for the scumbags.  But i do think the majority of tresspassers know damn good and well what theyre doing.  And the ones who dont can pound sand, cayse like i said, theres no valid excuse to not know whos land youre on.

I’m super diligent about using OnX.

But I have been in places that I’m 1000 percent sure it was public and had a neighboring landowner telling me it was private. And I have been in places where OnX said it was public and I started to get the feeling it was private and left. I later confirmed it was private and OnX was wrong.

I’m not using ignorance as a defense. I’m giving some of mankind the benefit of the doubt. Shame on me, I guess?

It just seems odd to me that someone would haul minerals onto property they knew was private and setup a (what sounds like unlocked) trailcam. Maybe that’s because their behavior is so inexplicable. Or maybe it’s just because I haven’t been burned by people with evil intentions enough to just assume everyone out there is a premeditated scum bag.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Russ McDonald on November 17, 2019, 07:14:54 AM
By the way.  By state law it is not the owners responsibilty to post their land.  It is the hunter, biker, hiker or who ever  to know private from public.  @bigtex maybe he could shed some light on this subject to.  Nice job on the OP.  I am sure I wouldn't have handled it that way.

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Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 17, 2019, 07:55:47 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bango skank on November 17, 2019, 08:03:11 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

While yoyre at work, your neighbor comes over and bangs your wife and leaves.  You never even know, so no harm no foul.  What does it hurt?
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Gringo31 on November 17, 2019, 08:12:48 AM
Quote
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

It's incredible to me that someone is this ignorant and willing to post such a thing on a public site.  Just shaking my head.....   :bash:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: PolarBear on November 17, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
Come try it on my land and you will see what the big deal is.  It's folks with attitudes like yours that have ruined private land access for many.  The whole "better to ask forgiveness than permission" is nothing more than a cowards mindset.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: RockChuck on November 17, 2019, 08:19:43 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Wow! Is this a joke?

Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bowhunter3 on November 17, 2019, 08:34:19 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Wow! Is this a joke?

It has to be
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Curly on November 17, 2019, 08:50:41 AM
By the way.  By state law it is not the owners responsibilty to post their land.  It is the hunter, biker, hiker or who ever  to know private from public.  @bigtex maybe he could shed some light on this subject to.  Nice job on the OP.  I am sure I wouldn't have handled it that way.

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It kind of is the property owner's responsibility to post the property or fence it or make sure it looks used. The law probably needs changed since it is so easy these days to figure out who owns property.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?Cite=9A.52.010

Quote
    A person who enters or remains upon unimproved and apparently unused land, which is neither fenced nor otherwise enclosed in a manner designed to exclude intruders, does so with license and privilege unless notice against trespass is personally communicated to him or her by the owner of the land or some other authorized person, or unless notice is given by posting in a conspicuous manner. Land that is used for commercial aquaculture or for growing an agricultural crop or crops, other than timber, is not unimproved and apparently unused land if a crop or any other sign of cultivation is clearly visible or if notice is given by posting in a conspicuous manner. Similarly, a field fenced in any manner is not unimproved and apparently unused land. A license or privilege to enter or remain on improved and apparently used land that is open to the public at particular times, which is neither fenced nor otherwise enclosed in a manner to exclude intruders, is not a license or privilege to enter or remain on the land at other times if notice of prohibited times of entry is posted in a conspicuous manner.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: huntingfool7 on November 17, 2019, 08:52:07 AM
tagging.  Would like to see if the trespasser responds
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 17, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
Let's not get naughty over this and start making personal attacks; it's just a posting. I'll update if I'm contacted.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jimmer on November 17, 2019, 09:28:26 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
I hope that’s a joke.. that’s exactly why I have a bad taste in my mouth come hunting season with the flock of west siders coming over trying to get it done, do whatever it takes!! Wow...
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Tenkara on November 17, 2019, 09:31:29 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
I hope that’s a joke.. that’s exactly why I have a bad taste in my mouth come hunting season with the flock of west siders coming over trying to get it done, do whatever it takes!! Wow...
So your blaming west siders?
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jimmer on November 17, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
I hope that’s a joke.. that’s exactly why I have a bad taste in my mouth come hunting season with the flock of west siders coming over trying to get it done, do whatever it takes!! Wow...
So your blaming west siders?

5 out of 6 encounters I’ve had since I have owned my property have been from out of towners.. so blaming? Coincidence? I’m not the only land owner that has a bad taste, trust me on that.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 17, 2019, 09:56:07 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

The "big deal" to me is that I payed for and continue to pay taxes on the land where I live with the expectation of privacy from people I don't know filming me, my family, or even my livestock. I don't put up cameras on other people's property without asking and expect to be treated the same.  If you're feeling left out, just say so and we'll set up a few cameras around your yard. We won't be looking directly at your house, but I will know when you go outside, how you are dressed and what you are doing at the time. 

That's my "big deal".
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Birdguy on November 17, 2019, 10:16:48 AM
It is a big deal! Privacy is a big deal, ownership is a big deal, respect for others is a big deal....or at least is should be! I am a west sider, but own property on the east side. In 20 years of game cameras I have had 1 local on cam but dozens of west siders on camera and several more we asked to leave! We are 3 miles from national forest and there is no public land closer than that. It just sucks, no way I would do that to someone on their land.

I am glad that "most" hunters feel the same way I do about land ownership and respect!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jimmer on November 17, 2019, 10:26:58 AM
It is a big deal! Privacy is a big deal, ownership is a big deal, respect for others is a big deal....or at least is should be! I am a west sider, but own property on the east side. In 20 years of game cameras I have had 1 local on cam but dozens of west siders on camera and several more we asked to leave! We are 3 miles from national forest and there is no public land closer than that. It just sucks, no way I would do that to someone on their land.

I am glad that "most" hunters feel the same way I do about land ownership and respect!
Amen.. stereotypes just don’t appear from nothing
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: huntnfmly on November 17, 2019, 10:41:41 AM
It is a big deal! Privacy is a big deal, ownership is a big deal, respect for others is a big deal....or at least is should be! I am a west sider, but own property on the east side. In 20 years of game cameras I have had 1 local on cam but dozens of west siders on camera and several more we asked to leave! We are 3 miles from national forest and there is no public land closer than that. It just sucks, no way I would do that to someone on their land.

I am glad that "most" hunters feel the same way I do about land ownership and respect!
Amen.. stereotypes just don’t appear from nothing
Wow you re right stereotypes do not come from nowhere.
Westsiders better stay on  their side of the mountains blah blah blah
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: HntnFsh on November 17, 2019, 11:02:40 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Um, because its unethical. Its stealing, its trespassing. Wrong in so many ways!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 17, 2019, 11:12:37 AM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: huntnfmly on November 17, 2019, 11:26:36 AM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 
I have to disagree with your last paragraph. It most definitely is unethical intent with unfenced wheat fields or tree farm if you didn't plant them they aren't yours so stay off
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 17, 2019, 12:00:52 PM
Just trying to give a benefit of the doubt to someone I don't know; yet....
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 17, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
What kind of cam
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jimmer on November 17, 2019, 12:16:53 PM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 
West siders have a bad rap??? What?? No way... you said it right there in just some of the people YOU know..
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 17, 2019, 04:54:33 PM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

While yoyre at work, your neighbor comes over and bangs your wife and leaves.  You never even know, so no harm no foul.  What does it hurt?


 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Rainier10 on November 17, 2019, 05:38:35 PM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

While yoyre at work, your neighbor comes over and bangs your wife and leaves.  You never even know, so no harm no foul.  What does it hurt?


 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: huntnphool on November 17, 2019, 06:26:07 PM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

While yoyre at work, your neighbor comes over and bangs your wife and leaves.  You never even know, so no harm no foul.  What does it hurt?


 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

 Depends on which one has the better rack! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 17, 2019, 09:02:58 PM
Hey everyone hang on! I have a buddy who thinks he is a funny sob by posting this. I was showing him how great a site this is and told him he should join up and let him look over a bunch of stuff on my phone while we were watching football today. Well he thought it would be cute to post this and didnt tell me! I just saw this post and believe me this is not me. I own a couple hundred acres in Lewis County and it looks like I own stock in no trespassing signs. The Sheriff has been out more than once for hunters who thought they could get off by saying they didnt see the signs. I would never go on property w/o permission. I am going to act like I never saw this and payback to my buddy will be a doozy!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 17, 2019, 09:07:36 PM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Wow! Is this a joke?

Yes it was but not by me-! Read my post. If he wasnt such a good friend and we play jokes on each other all the time I beat his ass!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bango skank on November 17, 2019, 09:08:57 PM
Thats awesome
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 17, 2019, 09:15:24 PM
Thats awesome

I do have to laugh but it seriously pissed some people off on here.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: TooTallMike on November 17, 2019, 09:52:56 PM
Thats awesome

I do have to laugh but it seriously pissed some people off on here.

Keep him away from your wife  :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 17, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Thats awesome

I do have to laugh but it seriously pissed some people off on here.

Keep him away from your wife  :chuckle:

  :yeah: :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on November 18, 2019, 07:20:07 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Wow! Is this a joke?

Yes it was but not by me-! Read my post. If he wasnt such a good friend and we play jokes on each other all the time I beat his ass!

Want to file a complaint?
RCW 9A.90.050
Computer trespass in the second degree.
(1) A person is guilty of computer trespass in the second degree if the person, without authorization, intentionally gains access to a computer system or electronic database of another under circumstances not constituting the offense in the first degree.
(2) Computer trespass in the second degree is a gross misdemeanor.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: baker5150 on November 18, 2019, 08:00:15 AM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 

Then we have the local "Dry Sider" who parks his truck in the middle of my road or turn around, hops my fence, and marches thru my property, right past the No Trespass sign, because "He's hunted here for years" or my favorite "Old Jim said it was no big deal"   

There are bad apples in every bunch
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: jackelope on November 18, 2019, 08:09:45 AM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 

Then we have the local "Dry Sider" who parks his truck in the middle of my road or turn around, hops my fence, and marches thru my property, right past the No Trespass sign, because "He's hunted here for years" or my favorite "Old Jim said it was no big deal"   

There are bad apples in every bunch
:yeah:
I'm a transplanted westsider. I have family and friends in Pomeroy. Hunted there on private ground for years and have seen 2 poaching or illegal shooting incidents there, both by non-westsiders. Go figure.

Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: boneaddict on November 18, 2019, 09:08:24 AM
Thats awesome

I do have to laugh but it seriously pissed some people off on here.

I thought you had lost your fricking mind
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: RileyH on November 18, 2019, 09:11:10 AM
Maybe I should hunt Lewis County....seems pretty tame compared to Okanogan. I think I've seen more trespassers than deer the last couple years.

Two years back we watched three guys poach a fawn on our neighbors land, then they scoped me when they saw my orange, then they drug it through the backend of our property on their way out.

Lots of bad apples in the orchard...  :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 18, 2019, 09:40:03 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?

Wow! Is this a joke?

Yes it was but not by me-! Read my post. If he wasnt such a good friend and we play jokes on each other all the time I beat his ass!

Want to file a complaint?
RCW 9A.90.050
Computer trespass in the second degree.
(1) A person is guilty of computer trespass in the second degree if the person, without authorization, intentionally gains access to a computer system or electronic database of another under circumstances not constituting the offense in the first degree.
(2) Computer trespass in the second degree is a gross misdemeanor.

Oh Yeah! I will get some mileage outta this. Thank you!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 18, 2019, 09:44:10 AM
Thats awesome



I do have to laugh but it seriously pissed some people off on here.

I thought you had lost your fricking mind

I can see why.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 18, 2019, 12:08:03 PM
Hey everyone hang on! I have a buddy who thinks he is a funny sob by posting this. I was showing him how great a site this is and told him he should join up and let him look over a bunch of stuff on my phone while we were watching football today. Well he thought it would be cute to post this and didnt tell me! I just saw this post and believe me this is not me. I own a couple hundred acres in Lewis County and it looks like I own stock in no trespassing signs. The Sheriff has been out more than once for hunters who thought they could get off by saying they didnt see the signs. I would never go on property w/o permission. I am going to act like I never saw this and payback to my buddy will be a doozy!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Your buddy won the interwebs!  Priceless!  I do hope you make the payback in over-the-top fashion!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 18, 2019, 12:46:45 PM
Hey everyone hang on! I have a buddy who thinks he is a funny sob by posting this. I was showing him how great a site this is and told him he should join up and let him look over a bunch of stuff on my phone while we were watching football today. Well he thought it would be cute to post this and didnt tell me! I just saw this post and believe me this is not me. I own a couple hundred acres in Lewis County and it looks like I own stock in no trespassing signs. The Sheriff has been out more than once for hunters who thought they could get off by saying they didnt see the signs. I would never go on property w/o permission. I am going to act like I never saw this and payback to my buddy will be a doozy!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Your buddy won the interwebs!  Priceless!  I do hope you make the payback in over-the-top fashion!
Oh believe me! I have to wait a bit as he knows something will come his way :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: BD1 on November 18, 2019, 12:57:11 PM
Keep us "Posted"   :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: RockChuck on November 18, 2019, 02:28:16 PM
  :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: jagermiester on November 18, 2019, 03:20:55 PM
I don't think it's ignorance in most cases, I think they know it's private and just don't care.

Oh i agree.  Just responding to the dude who seens like he wants to use ignorance as a possible defense for the scumbags.  But i do think the majority of tresspassers know damn good and well what theyre doing.  And the ones who dont can pound sand, cayse like i said, theres no valid excuse to not know whos land youre on.

You have to admit that some land is surrounded by public and not posted or fenced this land needs to be posted or it would be fair to assume that the owner of the land is ok with people recreating on it. Some land is obvious even without a fence or posting but there is some weird stuff out there.
putting a trail cam on some ones property is wrong period.

I personally stay as far away from private land as I can and I use OnX to do so. I have had some situations though over the years where landowners were upset and I did not even know that I was in the wrong. One time we asked permission to go pheasant hunt some farmland. We were granted permission from a nice lady. Then some guy came down the road and threatened to blow my brothers head off and called us piece of $%^ west siders and all kinds of stuff. We told him we asked that gal in that house right there and he told us she didn't own the land we were on.  It put a real bad taste in my mouth because the last thing I want to do is trespass. Another time in MT I obtained permission then the neighbor came to run us off, I think because he wanted to hunt it. We went back and checked with the landowner and he told us that we were on his land and go ahead again he would call the neighbor. We chose to move on and find something different. All the while nothing was fenced or posted. I don't pheasant hunt much more because of this. I love chasing Chukar on public land never worrying about what land I'm on.

 
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Squatch633 on November 18, 2019, 05:35:13 PM
I have noticed over the years that there is a tendency for some city folks to look at chunk of land and just assume it must be open since there's no posting ever 10' on it, or it's covered in trees. It just never occurs to someone who was raised and lives in an apartment or postage stamp size lot in Tacoma that anything over 10 acres can still be someone's home.  Ditto with unfenced hay fields and Christmas tree farms.
It's not necessarily unethical intent on their part, as much as just not thinking their actions all the way through.
 

Then we have the local "Dry Sider" who parks his truck in the middle of my road or turn around, hops my fence, and marches thru my property, right past the No Trespass sign, because "He's hunted here for years" or my favorite "Old Jim said it was no big deal"   

There are bad apples in every bunch

Yeah or you end up with some *censored* in a tin can from The Tri-Cities decide you looked lonely on your bait stop on the tuna grounds... People can be inconsiderate everywhere.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on November 22, 2019, 09:34:02 PM
 :tup:
Keep us "Posted"   :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on December 06, 2019, 09:41:19 PM
Finally got a phone call, then got chewed out. He said I "stole" the camera from him and would call the cops on me unless I hand delivered it; Fair enough.  He agreed to meet me at Brenda's Market at 7pm by the U-Haul trucks.  So far so good.

I showed up just a little late on purpose and rolled up in my fully marked patrol vehicle, blocking him in and walked over with the camera in hand and said "do you still want to report a theft?"  After picking up his jaw from the dirt, he explained he had permission from his "buddy" to hunt the land next to mine and did not realize he had crossed over to my land.  I asked him if his buddy's last name was Weyerhaeuser since that's the land that borders mine.  He sort of ran out of ideas at that point.  His two friends that got out of his truck when I rolled up with my headlights on seemed to loose interest in the whole affair and went inside the market while him and I had a polite but firm conversation about respecting land owners rights.  I wonder why they came along in the first place?

I'm guessing that might be the end to his camera trespassing escapades, at least on my patch of dirt.

Wish I had a body cam on. You could hear the steam leaking out of his ego.



Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Stein on December 06, 2019, 09:47:44 PM
Dude, that may be the best story I have read on this forum.  Good work and thanks for your service.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: MonstroMuley on December 06, 2019, 11:42:30 PM
Pulitzer "Best Short Story" (with a Twist)  … Right there...
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: HillHound on December 07, 2019, 04:06:26 AM
Man that is great. My Dad owns 100 acres less than 6 miles from Brenda’s and him and my bro are getting pictures of local pos trespassing over 5 string 4 prong bar wire fence and no trespassing signs. He has got local LEO to issue a couple trespass orders cause they recognized them. Sure is annoying to have your kid hunting property that has been in the family for 130 years and have the neighbor come strolling by claiming his grandpa or someone told him to hunt it. I wish I didn’t live so far from him or I would be out there all bow season trying to chase the scum off that I know is jumping his back fence.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bowhunter3 on December 07, 2019, 05:32:21 AM
Awesome :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: boneaddict on December 07, 2019, 06:30:19 AM
Thats AWESOME!  :chuckle:

I'll really laugh if he is a member on here.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: cougforester on December 07, 2019, 06:38:46 AM
That's one the best trollings of an over-inflated ego I've heard before. Well done.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 07, 2019, 07:30:25 AM
Thats a funny story, I wonder why he had his friends get out with him too though. I imagine he will reconsider his actions going forward though haha
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: boneaddict on December 07, 2019, 07:41:21 AM
curious if his partners were there to give you a tune up.....
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Bango skank on December 07, 2019, 07:54:23 AM
Thats a funny story, I wonder why he had his friends get out with him too though. I imagine he will reconsider his actions going forward though haha

He had his friends there because when you want to try to intimidate somebody and act like a tough guy, but youre really a cowardly pansy, you cant be the tough guy by yourself so you need your boys with you.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Encore 280 on December 07, 2019, 08:05:37 AM
I hope you recorded his license plate number and vehicle description for future reference. Excellent job of handling everything. :tup:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Buckhunter24 on December 07, 2019, 08:52:09 AM
Thats a funny story, I wonder why he had his friends get out with him too though. I imagine he will reconsider his actions going forward though haha

He had his friends there because when you want to try to intimidate somebody and act like a tough guy, but youre really a cowardly pansy, you cant be the tough guy by yourself so you need your boys with you.

Exactly my thoughts, with any luck hes reading this thread  :hello:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: archerykraze on December 07, 2019, 09:09:04 AM
Nice Job handling the situation. Would have been interesting to insert some photos on the SD Card of the Trespassing Laws and the Penalties involved to help remind him later when checking his photos. Wish Mr. Weyerhauser was my relative too  :chuckle:.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Birdguy on December 07, 2019, 09:59:40 AM
Love that!!! What a great scenario! Good for you and I hope him too in the long run. Thank you for the play by play on the follow up  :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: bornhunter on December 07, 2019, 10:09:02 AM
I hope you put an evidence sticker on his camera before you gave it back to him! :lol4:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Gobble Doc on December 07, 2019, 10:26:44 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
You must be trolling. No?


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Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Gobble Doc on December 07, 2019, 10:44:41 AM
Why is this such a big deal. Someone comes on your property, takes a buck and leaves. You never even know so no harm no foul. What does taking one deer hurt?
You must be trolling. No?


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I should have read the whole thread. Very entertaining.


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Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on December 08, 2019, 03:22:35 PM
Thats a funny story, I wonder why he had his friends get out with him too though. I imagine he will reconsider his actions going forward though haha

He had his friends there because when you want to try to intimidate somebody and act like a tough guy, but youre really a cowardly pansy, you cant be the tough guy by yourself so you need your boys with you.

Exactly my thoughts, with any luck hes reading this thread  :hello:

I think it's safe to say he just never saw this coming and had absolutely nothing ready regarding a "Plan B". 
I'm sure once he was down the road a ways he told his backup "He's just luck I didn't kick his ..."
Live and Learn!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: TVHunts on December 08, 2019, 04:00:53 PM
Finally got a phone call, then got chewed out. He said I "stole" the camera from him and would call the cops on me unless I hand delivered it; Fair enough.  He agreed to meet me at Brenda's Market at 7pm by the U-Haul trucks.  So far so good.

I showed up just a little late on purpose and rolled up in my fully marked patrol vehicle, blocking him in and walked over with the camera in hand and said "do you still want to report a theft?"  After picking up his jaw from the dirt, he explained he had permission from his "buddy" to hunt the land next to mine and did not realize he had crossed over to my land.  I asked him if his buddy's last name was Weyerhaeuser since that's the land that borders mine.  He sort of ran out of ideas at that point.  His two friends that got out of his truck when I rolled up with my headlights on seemed to loose interest in the whole affair and went inside the market while him and I had a polite but firm conversation about respecting land owners rights.  I wonder why they came along in the first place?

Wish I had a body cam on. You could hear the steam leaking out of his ego.


Wow!   Best story ever....from the way you left the message for him to the final twist!
LMAO...was he a west sider??  :chuckle:
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on February 23, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
Finally got a phone call, then got chewed out. He said I "stole" the camera from him and would call the cops on me unless I hand delivered it; Fair enough.  He agreed to meet me at Brenda's Market at 7pm by the U-Haul trucks.  So far so good.

I showed up just a little late on purpose and rolled up in my fully marked patrol vehicle, blocking him in and walked over with the camera in hand and said "do you still want to report a theft?"  After picking up his jaw from the dirt, he explained he had permission from his "buddy" to hunt the land next to mine and did not realize he had crossed over to my land.  I asked him if his buddy's last name was Weyerhaeuser since that's the land that borders mine.  He sort of ran out of ideas at that point.  His two friends that got out of his truck when I rolled up with my headlights on seemed to loose interest in the whole affair and went inside the market while him and I had a polite but firm conversation about respecting land owners rights.  I wonder why they came along in the first place?

Wish I had a body cam on. You could hear the steam leaking out of his ego.


Wow!   Best story ever....from the way you left the message for him to the final twist!
LMAO...was he a west sider??  :chuckle:

He is, but not from a major city.  I saw where he got arrested for driving suspended last month; Oopsie!
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Jingles on February 23, 2020, 05:40:34 PM
For stopping trespassers  dig some 18 inch deep by 18 inch diameter holes get some scrap dowels cut them 18 inches long sharpen points on both ends, drive one end of 8 Spokes into the sides of the hole with pointed end pointing down,cover with a piece of plastic and them cover that with duff.
Make a bunch of these signs where the most trespass traffic occurs.
Title: Re: More than fair for a trail camera trasspass
Post by: Goshawk on March 18, 2020, 09:47:34 PM
Yeah, NOT!
Setting a man trap can end up causing all sorts of jail time and civil lawsuits.
I'm not going to do something that puts me in with my past "customers".
Gos
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