Post by: Machias on November 21, 2019, 06:02:52 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on November 21, 2019, 06:06:15 PM
Post by: wadu1 on November 21, 2019, 06:07:28 PM
Post by: lewy on November 21, 2019, 06:11:10 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 21, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
Post by: Machias on November 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
:tup: get him! that's the worst I still dream about catching a trail cam theif from a few years ago :chuckle:
Yea, I have had one of those taken as well. :)
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 21, 2019, 07:05:34 PM
Post by: Tracker0721 on November 22, 2019, 06:21:49 AM
Post by: Jpmiller on November 22, 2019, 06:46:04 AM
Post by: birddogdad on November 22, 2019, 07:27:38 AM
I caught a trail cam breaker. Smashed it with a rock after wiping the card. But my brother recovered the data from it and I got enough info for a warden to get em. My cage traps I feel I need to put GPS trackers on em. Hope ya get the guy!
like Montana does in horns.. built into the traps to ping and recover with prejudice! its terrible that we have to go thru this. i recall 50 years ago as a young teen saving my hard money to buy traps and have a whole line stolen overnight in upstate NY. I had spent several months with the owner (farmer) gaining his trust to allow me access. I told him what happened and he was so pissed the next day he came to my house after school and had me help posted the entire property and only i had free access for my entire middle/high school years for hunting and trapping.
Post by: idaho guy on November 22, 2019, 09:09:24 AM
I caught a trail cam breaker. Smashed it with a rock after wiping the card. But my brother recovered the data from it and I got enough info for a warden to get em. My cage traps I feel I need to put GPS trackers on em. Hope ya get the guy!
like Montana does in horns.. built into the traps to ping and recover with prejudice! its terrible that we have to go thru this. i recall 50 years ago as a young teen saving my hard money to buy traps and have a whole line stolen overnight in upstate NY. I had spent several months with the owner (farmer) gaining his trust to allow me access. I told him what happened and he was so pissed the next day he came to my house after school and had me help posted the entire property and only i had free access for my entire middle/high school years for hunting and trapping.
What does Montana do in horns?? I never heard of anything like that just curious
Post by: Oh Mah on November 22, 2019, 09:56:13 AM
Is it hunters and trappers that steal them? I always assumed it was the greenies hiking around that got their feeling hurt and took the traps.I had 1 stolen last year,Yes trappers are known to steal them also. :bash: Some of them feel if you're in their area it's fair game.
Post by: Humptulips on November 22, 2019, 10:40:31 AM
People with dogs are especially bad because the dogs find the traps and their owners think it justice if their dog gets caught.
I believe most of these traps that are stolen end up hanging in someone's barn or garage and are never used so why do people take them? I have wondered about that.
Post by: Machias on November 22, 2019, 09:02:43 PM
Post by: Machias on November 22, 2019, 09:03:49 PM
Is it hunters and trappers that steal them? I always assumed it was the greenies hiking around that got their feeling hurt and took the traps.
A lot of times it's other sportsmen, but it can be anyone, crime of opportunity.
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 22, 2019, 09:12:13 PM
Unfortunately you aren't the only one having problems! I have two different buddies that have had traps messed with this year. Both have one of my cameras up along their lines now for security purposes.
Post by: 3nails on November 22, 2019, 10:39:48 PM
Post by: rasbo on November 23, 2019, 03:44:04 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 23, 2019, 09:26:46 AM
Post by: 3nails on November 23, 2019, 09:40:13 AM
Mine was tracked all the way to the thief's garage door where his tracks in the snow were cut off by the garage door.:chuckle: :chuckle: Don't mean to laugh at your expense but sometimes stupidity is funny! :chuckle:
Post by: Oh Mah on November 23, 2019, 11:00:36 AM
COPS FOLLOWED THE WHEEL BARROW TRACKS ALL THE WAY TO THE THIEF'S HOUSE. :chuckle:
Post by: Machias on November 23, 2019, 09:56:47 PM
Post by: Hillbilly Zen on November 23, 2019, 10:41:56 PM
I guess I don’t understand how you would fault a dog owner for getting pissed about his/her dog “finding” a trap? On private property of course that would be on the dog owner for not being where they should, but I have hiked into marked trap areas several times and didnt see anything posted until I hit a road. On those occasions I had started hiking on different roads and traveled several miles cross country over public land. I don’t know squat about trapping but I imagine, like anything, there’s plenty of people who do it halfassedly and look at an area and say “nah, nobody would hike through here” and just toss them out there.
Post by: Jpmiller on November 24, 2019, 09:13:58 AM
Post by: Hillbilly Zen on November 24, 2019, 10:40:55 AM
Post by: Humptulips on November 24, 2019, 12:33:46 PM
In other States it is pretty easy to see that dogs are the hammer the anti groups use to try and get trapping stopped. I think most of the incidences that they use are faked. Most people just let their dog out and move on.
The salmon rig and the archery scenario are poor analogies. What if a horse back rider meets a dog owner and the horse kicks the dog. Who's fault? Sometimes things happen where you can't place blame. The outdoors get smaller and more crowded. All the user groups need to get along.
Post by: Jpmiller on November 24, 2019, 02:34:02 PM
Post by: Hillbilly Zen on November 24, 2019, 04:29:04 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 24, 2019, 05:15:23 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 24, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Post by: Humptulips on November 24, 2019, 09:44:36 PM
Dog gets caught in hidden trap on oublic land. Dog owners fault. Ok I got it now thanks. 😂. I’m not opposed to trapping, and my question was not really aimed at legal “fault” or what people should and shouldn’t do. I was just curious at how you could expect a dog owner to not be pissed at having their dog trapped? That seems an unreasonable expectation to me. People are emotionally attached to their animals and get mad or scared when they are in distress. That’s pretty normal. But maybe these days dogs are supposed to be on play dates and riding around in front seats in designer cardigans and not out in the mountains running free? I do know, my dogs probably too fat to get caught in a wild animal trap anyhow. Lazy old lab syndrome. Hope they nail the guy whole stole the trap. I think most of us out there in the woods get along just fine, and user conflicts are largely the stuff of theory, the greed or myopic vision of special interest groups, or the result of run of the mill dips@!$s (like the trap thief mentioned above).I don't think you do get it. It's not the dog owners fault or the trappers fault when a dog gets caught. It is just a consequence of multiple user groups using the woods.
Why then should the dog owner or anyone get mad and steal or destroy the trappers equipment? Take the dog out of the trap and move on. Maybe the dog gets a lesson and stays out of the next trap it encounters.
Post by: Machias on November 25, 2019, 08:48:43 AM
Idaho has a great video on how to release your dog from a trap and they go to a lot of places and give dog owners demonstration. Most modern traps do zero damage to a dog's foot. Almost all the coyotes I catch could be released unharmed.