Post by: jbeaumont21 on November 22, 2019, 01:12:14 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/cars/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-truck/index.html
Post by: dwils233 on November 22, 2019, 01:13:52 PM
But I won't be the the guy who wants to show up to deer camp in that thing
Post by: KFhunter on November 22, 2019, 01:19:14 PM
They're coming out with new batteries (solid state batteries) that will be a big improvement what we have now. 1000 mi per charge feasible?
I envision these new solid state batteries being in a cassette, drive to a "gas station" and do an exchange like we do propane tanks now, and drive off. Also the batteries make personal drones much more feasible.
Post by: Jpmiller on November 22, 2019, 01:22:18 PM
My next truck, if I can hold out 5 or so more years, will most likely be an electric vehicle.
They're coming out with new batteries (solid state batteries) that will be a big improvement what we have now. 1000 mi per charge feasible?
I envision these new solid state batteries being in a cassette, drive to a "gas station" and do an exchange like we do propane tanks now, and drive off. Also the batteries make personal drones much more feasible.
Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
Post by: jbeaumont21 on November 22, 2019, 01:24:05 PM
Post by: dwils233 on November 22, 2019, 01:26:31 PM
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Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
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Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
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That a good question, the other one being how they hold a charge/perform in extreme temps
Post by: KFhunter on November 22, 2019, 01:36:52 PM
My next truck, if I can hold out 5 or so more years, will most likely be an electric vehicle.
They're coming out with new batteries (solid state batteries) that will be a big improvement what we have now. 1000 mi per charge feasible?
I envision these new solid state batteries being in a cassette, drive to a "gas station" and do an exchange like we do propane tanks now, and drive off. Also the batteries make personal drones much more feasible.
Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
kills your MPG too :dunno:
solid state batteries are suppose to be basically impervious to cold or heat too, so winter driving wouldn't suffer other than increased rolling friction of snow tires and plowing through slush, snow and other winter gunk.
The implications of a battery like this is huge, and hard to over state.
Post by: Wunderlich33 on November 22, 2019, 01:45:16 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on November 22, 2019, 01:57:53 PM
Post by: Special T on November 22, 2019, 02:06:10 PM
Ive always told uber environmental folks to change their message to freedom and independence and they would get a lot more libertarian and conservative types on board.
Post by: kselkhunter on November 22, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
I'd love to eventually get a EV truck once the challenges are resolved. I leased an EV car for three years and enjoyed it. The power/torque of an EV is outstanding, the battery drain associated with it = not so outstanding. I see there are EV snowmobiles out now, which are interesting. I'd love a quiet snowmobile.
Solid state batteries are interesting, but still have a ways to go before being truly commercially viable. A heck of a lot of money being invested down that path, so something will eventually arrive. They still haven't solved the low temperature challenges, as the value of that higher density storage of a solid state battery reduces as temperature drops. Some good advancements this year in the lithium alloy for solving some of the issues associated with it. But not quite ready for mass production.
Although the latest advances from Tesla on the Lithium-Ion pouch cells could theoretically out produce solid state battery performance....again they also have issues to solve before mass production is viable. Fun stuff on the horizon.....
Post by: b23 on November 22, 2019, 03:40:59 PM
Post by: WaHeadhunter on November 22, 2019, 07:08:14 PM
Post by: actionshooter on November 22, 2019, 07:16:38 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 22, 2019, 07:20:05 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on November 22, 2019, 07:40:46 PM
My next truck, if I can hold out 5 or so more years, will most likely be an electric vehicle.
They're coming out with new batteries (solid state batteries) that will be a big improvement what we have now. 1000 mi per charge feasible?
I envision these new solid state batteries being in a cassette, drive to a "gas station" and do an exchange like we do propane tanks now, and drive off. Also the batteries make personal drones much more feasible.
Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
kills your MPG too :dunno:
solid state batteries are suppose to be basically impervious to cold or heat too, so winter driving wouldn't suffer other than increased rolling friction of snow tires and plowing through slush, snow and other winter gunk.
The implications of a battery like this is huge, and hard to over state.
Dropping from 15 mpg to 11 of so pulling my dual axle equipment trailer loses me only 80 or so miles off my range of 300 miles (round numbers). 220 miles is alot better than the less than 100 I saw. I'd be very very interested once they get the range up. The power and torque outputs for a towing rig would be fantastic.
Post by: follow maggie on November 22, 2019, 08:20:07 PM
My next truck, if I can hold out 5 or so more years, will most likely be an electric vehicle.
They're coming out with new batteries (solid state batteries) that will be a big improvement what we have now. 1000 mi per charge feasible?
I envision these new solid state batteries being in a cassette, drive to a "gas station" and do an exchange like we do propane tanks now, and drive off. Also the batteries make personal drones much more feasible.
Any idea how those batteries handle in towing conditions? Watched something where they tried towing with an electric truck and it cut the range in half.
TFL did a towing test with their model x towing a box trailer that weighed about 5,000 pounds if I remember right. The range of the model x dropped 2/3
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 22, 2019, 08:37:55 PM
Post by: Caseyd on November 22, 2019, 08:52:16 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 22, 2019, 11:13:48 PM
Post by: follow maggie on November 22, 2019, 11:24:29 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 23, 2019, 12:01:31 AM
Texhnology opinion aside that is an ugly sob
Can’t wait to see one of these pull up in the field, I’ll know it’s maga_j, WH2 or some other liberal, global warming do-gooder...not that I’m holding my breath that either of them actually “hunt”! :chuckle:
Post by: fowl smacker on November 23, 2019, 05:49:43 AM
Post by: luckyman on November 23, 2019, 06:16:43 AM
Post by: Stein on November 23, 2019, 08:07:50 AM
Such a disappointment, but Chev and ford will only be 2 years out though.
Rumors are it isn’t even a real production ready truck, they didn’t show the interior and it doesn’t have mirrors.
Good for the hipsters with an extra $100 laying around.
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Post by: Igor on November 23, 2019, 08:17:18 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/XteumeTl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xVfiWEjl.png)
Post by: Jpmiller on November 23, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Post by: Curly on November 23, 2019, 12:45:20 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-net-worth-plunges-dollar768m-after-tesla-cyber-trucks-broken-window-fiasco
Post by: KFhunter on November 23, 2019, 12:46:27 PM
Post by: Zardoz on November 23, 2019, 12:54:02 PM
Why can't an electric vehicle look like a regular petroleum powered rig? Is it just the "look at me" factor?
Just like the Concept cars of the sixties. Attention grabbers, reality may be different.
Post by: Angry Perch on November 23, 2019, 01:47:35 PM
Post by: Igor on November 23, 2019, 05:25:06 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-150-000-orders-212630265.html
I put my name on the list. I can't wait to show up at hunting camp in my new stealth truck
Post by: N7XW on November 23, 2019, 06:02:27 PM
Why is it that when you pull out a gas engine, and drop in an electric motor, you have to make the thing look like a gay spaceship?:chuckle: :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on November 23, 2019, 07:00:59 PM
Post by: Igor on November 23, 2019, 07:04:55 PM
you could take some different gas torches and flame on, get you some rainbow colors
Hey........I ordered mine in camo.
Post by: Jpmiller on November 23, 2019, 09:13:33 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 23, 2019, 10:34:50 PM
Why is it that when you pull out a gas engine, and drop in an electric motor, you have to make the thing look like a gay spaceship?
Careful AP, that comment can be construed as bigoted and homophobic! :rolleyes:
Post by: Angry Perch on November 24, 2019, 07:17:38 PM
Why is it that when you pull out a gas engine, and drop in an electric motor, you have to make the thing look like a gay spaceship?
Careful AP, that comment can be construed as bigoted and homophobic! :rolleyes:
Oops! Sorry if I offended any space aliens.
Post by: follow maggie on November 25, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
I'm a GMC owner, and I like GM vehicles, but General Motors' first electric pickup truck will be no beauty queen, either.
(https://i.imgur.com/XteumeTl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xVfiWEjl.png)
That’s not a GM product. Lordstown Motors was spun off from Workhorse when they left the consumer market this year.
Post by: magnanimous_j on November 25, 2019, 06:46:39 PM
Texhnology opinion aside that is an ugly sob
Can’t wait to see one of these pull up in the field, I’ll know it’s maga_j, WH2 or some other liberal, global warming do-gooder...not that I’m holding my breath that either of them actually “hunt”! :chuckle:
I don't hunt with a truck.
I think its safe to say though, that electric vehicles are the future. Once they figure out the batteries, there will be no disadvantages over internal combustion (except the exhaust note). If I had a way to charge it, I'd have a Tesla right now for commuting. My only anxiety with a truck would be multiple days in the woods. I've had several regular car batteries die during camping trips. I would need a little assurance that an adventure rig could sit in state for a week without draining out
Post by: Stein on November 25, 2019, 06:55:44 PM
The future is clearly electric, but we have a few steps to go for sure.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 25, 2019, 07:03:37 PM
I'd assume that these future trucks will drive themselves to a charging station, and then come back to pick you up. Or it would have a special emergency start/reserve setting for extended parking. Maybe a charging drone will land on it in the parking lot.Texhnology opinion aside that is an ugly sob
Can’t wait to see one of these pull up in the field, I’ll know it’s maga_j, WH2 or some other liberal, global warming do-gooder...not that I’m holding my breath that either of them actually “hunt”! :chuckle:
I don't hunt with a truck.
I think its safe to say though, that electric vehicles are the future. Once they figure out the batteries, there will be no disadvantages over internal combustion (except the exhaust note). If I had a way to charge it, I'd have a Tesla right now for commuting. My only anxiety with a truck would be multiple days in the woods. I've had several regular car batteries die during camping trips. I would need a little assurance that an adventure rig could sit in state for a week without draining out
Post by: MADMAX on November 25, 2019, 07:21:21 PM
Post by: BDildine on December 08, 2019, 10:14:35 AM
Suprised they havent incorporated Solar into the roof/hood somehow to keep batteries charged up.....just kind of a maintainer i guess.......Texhnology opinion aside that is an ugly sob
Can’t wait to see one of these pull up in the field, I’ll know it’s maga_j, WH2 or some other liberal, global warming do-gooder...not that I’m holding my breath that either of them actually “hunt”! :chuckle:
I don't hunt with a truck.
I think its safe to say though, that electric vehicles are the future. Once they figure out the batteries, there will be no disadvantages over internal combustion (except the exhaust note). If I had a way to charge it, I'd have a Tesla right now for commuting. My only anxiety with a truck would be multiple days in the woods. I've had several regular car batteries die during camping trips. I would need a little assurance that an adventure rig could sit in state for a week without draining out
Post by: Zardoz on January 12, 2020, 07:31:20 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/new-electric-hummer-makes-teslas-cybertruck-look-kids-tonka-toy
Post by: Alchase on January 13, 2020, 07:13:06 AM
Here is a good looking replacement for the Cyber Truck throw up..... :twocents:
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/new-electric-hummer-makes-teslas-cybertruck-look-kids-tonka-toy
Better than the Tesla, but
Looks like a discontinued Toyota with a Hummer grill, :chuckle:
Until the industry gets smart and settles on one universal charging station, and the technology for fast charging is found, and they are as common as gas pumps, electric will always be a limited commodity and a novelty.
Post by: Jingles on January 13, 2020, 09:51:50 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 13, 2020, 09:57:02 PM
Post by: Jpmiller on January 14, 2020, 06:38:12 AM
Did they ever resolve the issues with those 6x6s? They were somewhat unstable and would roll on turns/speeds that 4x4s could handle. Figure they just need some traction control adjustments?
What's the advantage of that over a dually anyway? Seems.ocerly complicated but I'm no engineer, I'm not even very smart.
Post by: KFhunter on January 14, 2020, 07:14:28 AM
Drive up to a station your battery pops out the side, robot grabs it and loads a charged cassette, you pay automatically via an app or something.
Take less than a minute and you don't even have to get out of the car.
The stations could even be mobile like a garbage truck but full of battery cassettes.
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Post by: Stein on January 14, 2020, 09:33:18 AM
Batteries continue to get better, I'm sure there will be a next generation from somewhere. I just bought one of the battery pack jump starters for my daughter after thinking they were a big joke. Man, they pack a ton of energy into a tiny footprint.
For sure, I wouldn't miss a radiator, water pump, belts and hoses, transmission, oil changes, fuel pumps, fuel filters and all the fun stuff that goes with IC engines.
Yeah, the Cyber Truck is a bad joke, but the thing with pushing the boundaries is you have a bunch of failures and he is one of the few willing to take big risks, financed with a bunch of his own money to boot.
Post by: Special T on January 14, 2020, 03:22:37 PM
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Post by: Jpmiller on January 15, 2020, 06:16:55 AM
Post by: Stein on January 15, 2020, 10:38:02 AM
I think there is so much politics that bleed over into automotive that some real viable solutions (at least short term), like small gas generators are not being considered. A tiny Honda generator could run everything in the car or battery heaters and extend the range or provide emergency charging. There are a ton of YouTubes where people are trying to come up with an "electric gas can" where you can pack emergency power like you would with a jerry can of gas. It isn't easy currently.
Nobody wants a gas generator exhaust pipe sticking out of their EV even if it means more of them would be sold and driven.
Post by: b0bbyg on January 15, 2020, 11:18:27 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 15, 2020, 11:23:31 AM