Post by: snake on December 19, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 05:50:04 PM
Post by: snake on December 19, 2019, 05:56:29 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 05:58:11 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 05:59:10 PM
Post by: snake on December 19, 2019, 06:19:32 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 06:23:13 PM
Post by: HillHound on December 19, 2019, 06:46:39 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 06:50:31 PM
With odds going down every year I would just put in for it. You know you’ll make time if you draw spring bear here too.
Yeah, not sure yet. But one thing i am sure of, if i do draw spring bear here, i wont be in the least bit choosy. Ill just whack the first bear i call in. Not like i wont have 3 more bear tags in my pocket.
Post by: HillHound on December 19, 2019, 06:56:31 PM
Post by: G.R.K on December 19, 2019, 07:03:34 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 19, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/special-hunts/bear
Thats still 2019, so 2020 not announced yet.
Post by: h20hunter on December 19, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 20, 2019, 12:38:14 PM
Post by: HillHound on December 20, 2019, 12:43:45 PM
Post by: MHWASH on December 20, 2019, 12:55:16 PM
Just ordered my new .444 marlin for the upcoming bear season. Going to cerakote it, already have an RPP synthetic stock set for it, and ill be getting the ball rolling on a suppressor for it. With any luck ill have the suppressor in hand before august first. This thing will be a hideous abomination of a lever gun. Its going to be perfect. Ill be taking it out this spring.
I have some brass I'll send you if you want it.
Post by: Bango skank on December 20, 2019, 01:08:58 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 20, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 20, 2019, 07:08:55 PM
I shot a bear one time w my .444 lever action, flipped it over. I love that gun.my first bear was with a .44 mag revolver, flipped it ass over tea kettle. 8 ft frontal shot, right in the throat. Incidental kill, had a tag just because.
Then i found out how good bear meat is. But man, that .44 cal chunk of lead sent him tumbling, it was a pretty impressive event. Dont think ill ever forget it.
Post by: slowhand on December 20, 2019, 09:20:14 PM
When in past years did they announce the areas chosen?
I've been checking often
Also what changes are anticipated?
Post by: Bango skank on December 21, 2019, 04:38:09 AM
So I'm planning to put in for spring bear for the first time this year.
When in past years did they announce the areas chosen?
I've been checking often
Also what changes are anticipated?
In past years they were right in the regs. Theyll be announced by january 2nd im sure, thats when the apps go on sale. Changes should be that the kapowsin hunt (150 permits) is gone entirely, they added another gmu in the southeast (peola, with 5 permits,) and added a few more permits to the existing southeast hunts. An overall reduction of i believe 112 available permits. Oh, and mandatory 72 hour pelt sealing requirement for spring bears, like with lions.
Post by: snake on December 21, 2019, 06:03:39 AM
Post by: Bango skank on December 21, 2019, 06:06:48 AM
Pelt sealing! Thats a crock. I did not see that one.
Yup. Lame. So far it seems to be only for spring bear at least, not fall.
Post by: slowhand on December 21, 2019, 08:31:01 AM
Rookie question
What exactly is pelt sealing?
Post by: Bango skank on December 21, 2019, 08:32:26 AM
Post by: Go Blue on December 25, 2019, 07:23:46 AM
In past years they were right in the regs. Theyll be announced by january 2nd im sure, thats when the apps go on sale. Changes should be that the kapowsin hunt (150 permits) is gone entirely, they added another gmu in the southeast (peola, with 5 permits,) and added a few more permits to the existing southeast hunts. An overall reduction of i believe 112 available permits. Oh, and mandatory 72 hour pelt sealing requirement for spring bears, like with lions.
So this year Hancock will not be allowing spring bear hunting?
Post by: Bango skank on December 25, 2019, 10:31:24 AM
Saying hancock will not allow spring bear hunting is far too broad of a statement. If a guy draws a huckleberry spring bear permit, he can still spring bear hunt on hancock lands in unit 121. Sherman permit can still hunt hancock lands in 101. Etc etc. Its specifically the kapowsin permits that are going away.
Post by: Big6bull on December 25, 2019, 11:58:20 AM
Post by: Bango skank on December 25, 2019, 12:00:30 PM
What if the hide is not something you want to keep? Will you still have to pack it out?
Yup. Mandatory hide sealing. You can chuck it in the trash after getting it sealed i guess. But youre packing it out if you want to stay legal. The other option is just to not do your hunter report, or i guess lie and say did not hsrvest. But people not doing their reports is the reason we are now stuck with this crap.
Im sure they realize a majority of successful hunters will want to keep the hide, so with the mandatory hide sealing a taxidermist wont accept an unsealed spring bear now. So this will give them a much more accurate count on spring harvest, and sex / age of bears harvested. The main concern preventing more liberal spring seasons seems to be excessive female / nursing female harvest. If we can get a few years of spring bear seasons in showing 30%>female harvest, then we would have some ammunition to push for otc spring bear. So kill boars in the spring, at least until we can get otc and lose the pelt sealing requirement.
Post by: trophyhunt on December 25, 2019, 12:50:04 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 25, 2019, 12:54:12 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240421.105.html
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,242375.0.html
Post by: HillHound on December 25, 2019, 02:33:37 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 25, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 25, 2019, 04:30:43 PM
This will be annoying and hopefully short lived. Unless you live down the road from a Fish and game office it’s already Hard enough to even get a couple tooth envelopes for fall bears not to mention finding someone to seal a hide within 72 hours. If you have to send teeth in and get hides sealed they should be able to do it all anywhere you can buy a license. When I shot my moose a bio wanted to take some samples but said I would need to meet him in downtown Spokane 9-5 M-F. That wasn’t gonna happen so he didn’t get his sample. If they want accurate/honest results they need to make it easier and less time/cost consuming for the hunters.
Game wardens can seal hides. When i got my cat a few weeks ago i called spokane regional headquarters on my way out of the mountains as soon as i got phone service and told the lady on the phone i had a cat and would like to get in touch with whatever game warden was on duty in the area to have it sealed. She put th ed call out and within 20 minutes an on duty officer called me told me where i could meet him on my way through colville. It was that quick and easy.
Had the hide sealed, tooth pulled and tissue sample taken like an hour sfter i got the cat loaded into my truck. The carcass was still warm. Was really not an inconvenience. And its not hard to get tooth envelopes. Just call your wdfw regional office and ask them to mail a couple to you. Of course you will only need to get tooth envelopes for fall bear now, as whatever wdfw employee checks your spring bear will pull the tooth in the proccess.
Still, the hide sealing requirement for bears does annoy me. While it may not be a giant pain, it is still one more damn thing to have to deal with and consider, and i hope like hell they dont start requiring it for fall bears. If they do, the gamies around here are going to have their hands full in august.
Post by: Antlershed on December 25, 2019, 08:30:36 PM
Im surprised people on this forum, in the bear section, havent heard of this. We had a couple pretty damn active topics going about it. Its probably a little late to send emails out about the crappy proposal at this point, but i guess it couldnt hurt.They adopted the proposal last month, and it’s already in WAC.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,240421.105.html
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,242375.0.html
Post by: Bango skank on December 25, 2019, 08:36:59 PM
Post by: Bob33 on December 25, 2019, 09:31:22 PM
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080 (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080)
Post by: BreezyBear on December 25, 2019, 09:42:14 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 12:35:49 AM
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 06:10:17 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 26, 2019, 06:26:34 AM
Post by: Shannon on December 26, 2019, 07:01:18 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 26, 2019, 07:04:39 AM
Why doesn’t Okanogan have a few spring bear tags? My property is over run with bears in the spring. Wreak havoc on the fawns and then start to move on by hunting season. Doesn’t make sense to me why there aren’t a few tags.same with unit 113, they need spring bear tags now! I'm sure its to protect their precious grizzly bears and wolves.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 26, 2019, 07:12:47 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on December 26, 2019, 07:19:05 AM
Harvest Check, Submitting Biological Samples and Bear Teeth: All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays), provide the hunter's name, date and location of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, evidence of sex, and the first premolar must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of notification of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples as described above. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080 (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080)
A week old hide in June could be pretty rank time it gets sealed. :puke:
Post by: trophyhunt on December 26, 2019, 07:47:45 AM
So self admittedly, I pay little attention to bear stuff. Here is my question. Say you shoot a bear that is rubbed out pretty bad and decide to not salvage the hide. Is this now illegal or can you still leave the hide and just check the skull with the state?From what I’m reading you now have to pack out the hide, I have met hunters who don’t care to keep the hide or head, this new rule sucks! What is their point? More violations to write???
Post by: KFhunter on December 26, 2019, 08:07:06 AM
and of course that tooth they want
Post by: Ghost Hunter on December 26, 2019, 08:34:41 AM
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080 (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080)
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Harvest Check, Submitting Biological Samples and Bear Teeth: All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays), provide the hunter's name, date and location of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, evidence of sex, and the first premolar must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of notification of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples as described above. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.
https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080 (https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080)
Doesn't say a portion of the pelt. :dunno: Interpretation?
Post by: KFhunter on December 26, 2019, 08:38:47 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 26, 2019, 08:41:47 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 26, 2019, 08:56:54 AM
Seems a bit unreasonable to me :dunno: what if you and a buddy are in the wenaha for 7 or 8 days and your buddy shoots a bear on day one? He now is supposed to hike out meat, head, and hide, then drive hours to go check his bear so he isn't a criminal, instead of continuing to help you find a bear, etc, etc?exactly!! That’s what I was trying to say! :chuckle: it’s just not going to happen!
Post by: Special T on December 26, 2019, 09:01:22 AM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/01961/wdfw01961.pdf
There is only 1 unit that is consistently over harvesting female black bears and that is BBMU #2 which happens to overlay the majority of the population. Its over harvest is also just slightly over objective. BBMU #3 is only slightly over harvest 2 of the 10 years. Notice how the only 2 that show over harvest are in the Puget Sound and West slopes of the Cascades where it is thick.
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 09:04:41 AM
Seems a bit unreasonable to me :dunno: what if you and a buddy are in the wenaha for 7 or 8 days and your buddy shoots a bear on day one? He now is supposed to hike out meat, head, and hide, then drive hours to go check his bear so he isn't a criminal, instead of continuing to help you find a bear, etc, etc?
Yup. Better be a really damn nice bear, thats a hunt ender.
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 09:07:38 AM
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Why doesn’t Okanogan have a few spring bear tags? My property is over run with bears in the spring. Wreak havoc on the fawns and then start to move on by hunting season. Doesn’t make sense to me why there aren’t a few tags.
Hopefully you brought thst up when the spring proposal was being drafted. Wdfw says the majority of fall bear harvest is incidental to deer and elk hunting. And 204 has a higher fall bear harvest than the highest northeast unit, 101. That tells me there are a LOT of bears in 204, and there is no reason they couldnt support a spring permit season, and give their fawns some help. Opening 204 and 113 to spring bear were the main things i was asking wdfw for, along with higher permit numbers for all spring hunts. I emailed scott fitkin, the okanagan regional biologist, talking about the extremely high fall harvest rate and hunter success percentage in 204, and wdfws admission that its mostly incidental, and asked him since bear numbers were clearly very high if in his opinion 204 could support a spring permit hunt. He did the very political, non committing non answer thing. He knows damn good and well how high the bear numbers are there, and that a spring hunt would not be detrimental to the bear population. But i believe he suspected, and rightly so, that if he openly admitted the state of things and took a stand in favor of a spring bear hunt, that i would be using his words in my pitch to wdfw, and he would rather just toe the line like a good boy, avoid rocking the boat and keep himself out of trouble.
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 12:10:18 PM
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I emailed scott fitkinmight disturb those baby wulfs.
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 12:11:41 PM
I did. I'm sitting on max points for spring bear waiting for them to open up a particular unit up there then will apply.
I think youll be waiting a long time.
Post by: KFhunter on December 26, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
If anything as the grizz expands we'll loose more spring seasons in NE units.
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 12:14:35 PM
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I think youll be waiting a long time
I believe you are right...... Now that soccer is a done deal. I might rethink my strategy. Anecdotally, maybe taking one for the team because you know as soon as I burn points.....
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 12:21:47 PM
113 is not going to have a spring bear season until the grizz are "fully recovered" state wide :twocents: :twocents:
If anything as the grizz expands we'll loose more spring seasons in NE units.
Which is ridiculous. Wdfw says the majority of fall bear harvest is incidental to deer / elk hunting. Deer hunters who have a bear tag "just in case." So guys that arent dedicated bear hunters, but will take a pop shot at one they bump into. Spring bear hunting is 100% intentional harvest. Guys purposely hunting bear. So we cant let dedicated bear hunters hunt spring bear in grizz areas out of the fear that they will mistakenly kill a grizzly. But for some reason we can let deer hunters who dont actually target bears shoot bears in grizz zones in the fall. It makes no sense. Is it harder to determine grizz from blackie in the spring than it is in the fall? No. Are the guys that apply for spring hunts and go out specifically targeting bears more likely to suck at bear identification than the rifle deer hunter who never specifically hunts bears? I really doubt it. It is just completely illogical to say that a spring hunt would be s danger to grizzlies, yet think a fall hunt wont. If anything, the dedicated bear hunters going out in the spring should be better at identifying bears than the casual deer hunter in the fall. If anything, it would make sense to have a spring season, but no bear season in october / november when the rifle deer and elk hunters are out and about.
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 12:27:56 PM
you dont need many points to draw anyway, it aint quality elk. Just get yourself one of the better northeast or southeast permits this year, and if the unit you want ever does get opened it will certainly be several years down the line, and by then youd have enough new points accumulated for a slam dunk anyway.QuoteI think youll be waiting a long time
I believe you are right...... Now that soccer is a done deal. I might rethink my strategy. Anecdotally, maybe taking one for the team because you know as soon as I burn points.....
Post by: h20hunter on December 26, 2019, 12:31:10 PM
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 01:02:17 PM
Post by: Bango skank on December 26, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Thanks! Not that everyone wouldnt want...but I want to get a really big color phase. I have one I've been sorta after in my deer area the last couple years. He's getting pretty big and he sure is pretty.
Pics?
Post by: slowhand on December 26, 2019, 01:07:22 PM
Is this what We are waiting for?
spring turkey and bear seasons?
Post by: boneaddict on December 26, 2019, 01:09:01 PM
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Pics?
Post by: h20hunter on December 26, 2019, 01:10:01 PM
Post by: dilleytech on December 30, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
Post by: BreezyBear on December 31, 2019, 09:34:57 PM
Post by: Bango skank on January 01, 2020, 04:20:10 PM
So I just peeked at the spring bear info page on the WDFW website, am I mistaken, or did they make a mistake? It appears to say only one bear can be harvested in eastern Washington :dunno: https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/special-hunts/bear
Yeah, its a mistake. They just used the same text / layout as before and changed the date, but forgot to delete that part. They sure remembered to add the hide sealing part though.
Just standard performance from our highly skilled wdfw staff.
Post by: BreezyBear on January 01, 2020, 04:52:44 PM
Post by: Bango skank on January 01, 2020, 05:08:17 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 09:24:19 AM
Post by: Bango skank on January 02, 2020, 09:39:08 AM
Anyone else not showing a spring bear permit app option on their account? Was gonna grab all my stuff today but no bear app option :dunno:
Its there. Look at the bottom of the list for the button that says shop for next years products
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 09:46:23 AM
I'm fully aware of how to navigate the purchase pages. Its definitely not thereAnyone else not showing a spring bear permit app option on their account? Was gonna grab all my stuff today but no bear app option :dunno:
Its there. Look at the bottom of the list for the button that says shop for next years products
Post by: 92xj on January 02, 2020, 09:49:54 AM
I'm fully aware of how to navigate the purchase pages. Its definitely not thereAnyone else not showing a spring bear permit app option on their account? Was gonna grab all my stuff today but no bear app option :dunno:
Its there. Look at the bottom of the list for the button that says shop for next years products
It's there.
"Special Hunt Application Bear"
Below Multi season elk
count 20 "Add" buttons down
Post by: Bango skank on January 02, 2020, 09:52:18 AM
I'm fully aware of how to navigate the purchase pages. Its definitely not thereAnyone else not showing a spring bear permit app option on their account? Was gonna grab all my stuff today but no bear app option :dunno:
Its there. Look at the bottom of the list for the button that says shop for next years products
It definitely is there. I purchased mine. Dont know if ill submit though.
Post by: bobcat on January 02, 2020, 09:54:05 AM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 09:57:32 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 02, 2020, 09:59:10 AM
You guys crack me up :chuckle: its 100% NOT on my item list.
Did you submit your hunter report for bear last year?
Post by: Bango skank on January 02, 2020, 09:59:28 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 10:00:44 AM
absolutely did.You guys crack me up :chuckle: its 100% NOT on my item list.
Did you submit your hunter report for bear last year?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 10:01:06 AM
Operator errorhow so?
Post by: boneaddict on January 02, 2020, 10:03:16 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 10:08:16 AM
Operator errorshow me where it is on my item list Bango. I'll wait :chuckle:
Post by: Bango skank on January 02, 2020, 10:09:36 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 02, 2020, 10:12:30 AM
You guys crack me up :chuckle: its 100% NOT on my item list.
Did you submit your hunter report for bear last year?
Post by: 7mmfan on January 02, 2020, 10:14:32 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on January 02, 2020, 10:16:19 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 02, 2020, 10:17:14 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 02, 2020, 10:19:40 AM
Post by: boneaddict on January 02, 2020, 10:21:58 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on January 06, 2020, 03:15:19 PM
Post by: KFhunter on January 06, 2020, 03:16:03 PM
I predict that reported Spring bear harvest success is going to drop considerably with this new pelt sealing requirement.
fixed
Post by: trophyhunt on January 06, 2020, 03:24:50 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 06, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
All the best spring bear hunting is in the northeast corner, should be a great year up there!!!
Here's hoping. Got my two choices in. Might drop to one. Have to be a nice hide to not donate it to wdfg once it's sealed.
Post by: Bango skank on January 06, 2020, 03:38:19 PM
I predict that reported Spring bear harvest success is going to drop considerably with this new pelt sealing requirement.
fixed
I think it will be the opposite. I think the majority of spring bear hunters will want to keep their pelts, take them into a taxidermist. Youll have to have them sealed or a taxi wont take them. So i think the majority of successful hunters will do the required b.s
Post by: buckfvr on January 06, 2020, 04:19:07 PM
I predict that Spring bear harvest success is going to drop considerably with this new pelt sealing requirement.
Doubt it will have any impact on success, but I do think its intended to serve up a big negative for some guys who dont want to deal with the BS post hunt. So less applicants (maybe) spring hunt, fall also.
Post by: npaull on January 07, 2020, 01:20:09 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on January 10, 2020, 09:37:36 AM
I predict that reported Spring bear harvest success is going to drop considerably with this new pelt sealing requirement.
fixed
That's what I was getting at :tup:
Post by: bobcat on January 11, 2020, 10:59:55 AM
Can anyone explain why they chose the westside GMUS they chose to open? Just seems like an odd distribution to have 633, 627, and the Quinault area open but nothing else on the west side...
No, I don't believe anyone can explain that, not even anyone at the WDFW. My theory is certain people at the WDFW love bears and want to limit bear hunting opportunities as much as possible.
Post by: grundy53 on January 11, 2020, 11:06:12 AM
AgreedCan anyone explain why they chose the westside GMUS they chose to open? Just seems like an odd distribution to have 633, 627, and the Quinault area open but nothing else on the west side...
No, I don't believe anyone can explain that, not even anyone at the WDFW. My theory is certain people at the WDFW love bears and want to limit bear hunting opportunities as much as possible.
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Post by: buckfvr on January 11, 2020, 12:57:17 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 13, 2020, 12:13:28 PM
Then success rates decline, and WDFW concludes bear populations are down, and shorten seasons and reduce permit numbers ...I predict that reported Spring bear harvest success is going to drop considerably with this new pelt sealing requirement.
fixed
That's what I was getting at :tup:
Post by: deadyote on January 15, 2020, 08:24:49 AM
All successful black bear hunters statewide MUST submit a black bear premolar tooth per WACs 220-415-080 and 220-415-090. Tooth envelopes are available at all WDFW offices, and one should be included in your spring bear special hunt packet. The premolar tooth is located behind the canine tooth.
And now we have to bring the skull out also? Not trying to stir up this fire, but like others have said, if I'm in 5-6 miles or more there is no way I'm bringing the weight of the HIDE AND SKULL. I can see why someone would just leave the meat and hide and say, UNSUCCESSFUL.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 15, 2020, 08:48:44 AM
Harvest Check, Submitting Biological Samples and Bear Teeth: All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays) by calling 1-844-992-7266 to provide the hunter's name, date and GMU of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, with evidence of sex, and skull must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological sample. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280
All successful black bear hunters statewide MUST submit a black bear premolar tooth per WACs 220-415-080 and 220-415-090. Tooth envelopes are available at all WDFW offices, and one should be included in your spring bear special hunt packet. The premolar tooth is located behind the canine tooth.
And now we have to bring the skull out also? Not trying to stir up this fire, but like others have said, if I'm in 5-6 miles or more there is no way I'm bringing the weight of the HIDE AND SKULL. I can see why someone would just leave the meat and hide and say, UNSUCCESSFUL.
It's almost as if these rules were made by people that don't know much about hunting..........
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 09:03:30 AM
appears some spelling changed with copy/paste
Secon 4. Hunng Regulaons.
(a) Hunters may take any black bear except dependent young and female black bears with dependent young at side.
(b) Registering Kills. A hunter taking a black bear shall retain the pelt and skull from each black bear taken for registraon purposes. Even if the skull is damaged, it shall accompany the pelt. Visible external evidence of sex shall remain naturally aached to the pelt. Within three (3) days, (seventy‐two (72) hours), aer taking a black bear, the licensee shall present the pelt and skull to a district game warden, district wildlife biologist, or Department personnel at a Department Regional
CHAPTER 3 BLACK BEAR HUNTING SEASONS
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Office during business hours for registraon. The pelt and skull shall be presented in an unfrozen condion in order to allow collecon of two (2) premolar teeth to be ulized to determine the age of the black bear and to allow examinaon of the pelt to determine the sex and possible lactaon status of the black bear. A hunter taking a black bear in designated wilderness areas in hunt areas 13, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 or 28 shall report their harvest by telephone or in person within three (3) days, (seventy‐two (72) hours) and shall present the pelt and skull to a district game warden, district wildlife biologist or Department personnel at a Department Regional Office during business hours for registraon within ten (10) days from the date of harvest or within three (3) days aer returning from a designated wilderness area. The hunter making the telephone report shall contact a district game warden, district wildlife biologist, or Department personnel at a Department Regional Office and provide their name, license number, date of kill, sex of bear, hunt area and the general locaon of the kill site (drainage). At the me of registraon, the hunter shall furnish the Department their license number, date of kill and the locaon of the site of kill to include hunt area, secon, township and range or GPS coordinates.
(i) Any person who makes a false statement on the registraon form shall be in violaon of this regulaon and such violaon shall be punishable as provided by Title 23, W.S. for violaon of Commission regulaons.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 09:07:26 AM
Mandatory Check and Report: Any hunter killing a black bear must, within 10 days of kill: • Present the skull and hide to an Idaho Fish and Game regional office, official check point, or a Fish and Game conservation officer for removal and retention of a premolar tooth and to have the hide tagged with an official state export tag. No person, who does not possess a fur buyer or taxidermist license with appropriate import documentation, shall have, except during the open season and for 10 days after the close of the season, any raw black bear pelt that does not have an official state export tag attached (either Idaho’s or another state’s official export documentation).
• A hunter may authorize another person to comply with the above requirements if that person possesses enough information to accurately complete the necessary form. Proxy statement required, see page 102. • Please thaw your black bear hide and skull before bringing it in for tagging. Staff members may not be able to check a frozen hide or skull. Fish and Game’s headquarters office is not equipped to check in bears. In the Boise area, these animals can be checked Monday through Friday, at the Fish and Game regional office in Nampa, 15950 N Gate Blvd (after June 2019) 208-465-8465, between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. or by appointment at the Garden City facility, 109 W. 44th St., 208-327-7095.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 09:09:37 AM
Mandatory Reporting Requirements Within ten (10) days of harvesting a black bear the successful hunter must present to a Montana FWP official the complete bear hide and skull for the purpose of inspection, tagging and possible removal of a tooth (for aging). The hide and skull must be presented in a condition that allows full inspection and tooth collection (i.e. unfrozen). On the reporting date, successful hunters are required to provide FWP personnel with hunter’s name, telephone number, ALS number, Bear Management Unit (BMU) and County. The FWP hide tag affixed during inspection must thereafter remain attached to the hide until tanned. Harvest Reporting .................. 1-877-FWP-WILD or 1-877-397-9453 OR 406-444-0356 OR through the MyFWP portal at fwp.mt.gov Quota Status/Closure..................800-385-7826 or 406-444-1989 OR on the FWP website..................................... fwp.mt.gov
The toll-free line and FWP website are updated daily by 1 p.m. MST. NOTE: There is a mandatory 48 hour reporting requirement for black bear hunting in Bear Management Units (BMUs) 510, 520 and 700. When the quota is reached or approached in each of these districts, the black bear season in that district will close. For Quota Status call 1-800-385-7826 or (406) 444-1989.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 09:10:21 AM
Post by: dilleytech on January 15, 2020, 11:30:28 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 11:48:07 AM
Has no one been able to confirm are we actually expected to carry out the entire hide? Seems obvious you wouldn’t. For example if you wanted to to do a shoulder mount you would need less then half the hide but sure you would need it sealed to have the work done. Why couldn’t you just bring the skull with fur on it and proof of sex attached to one quarter? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
As previously posted. Spring 2020 regs available online.
Report requirement: Hunters will be required to report hunting activity for each special permit awarded in addition to their general season hunting activity report. All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays) by calling 844-992-7266 to provide the hunter’s name, date and GMU of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, with evidence of sex, and skull must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.
Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 01:38:16 PM
Post by: tjthebest on January 15, 2020, 01:57:27 PM
Has no one been able to confirm are we actually expected to carry out the entire hide? Seems obvious you wouldn’t. For example if you wanted to to do a shoulder mount you would need less then half the hide but sure you would need it sealed to have the work done. Why couldn’t you just bring the skull with fur on it and proof of sex attached to one quarter? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
this is what i was thinking too Just the head with fur/pelt on and then proof of sex with the meat.
Post by: carlyoungs on January 15, 2020, 03:23:59 PM
Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 03:48:33 PM
I have a quick question for all you. Didnt they change the regs last year where you can start state wide August 1st and take 2 bears on the east side? When I went on wdfw and clicked on spring bear 2020 it said only 1 bear can be taken in eastern Washington?
That was a mistake. A cut and paste from the old spring bear info they forgot to change. Aug 1st / 2 bear is statewide. You CAN kill 2 bears in eastern, but still only one of those 2 can be taken in spring if you draw.
Post by: carlyoungs on January 15, 2020, 03:52:00 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on January 15, 2020, 05:01:21 PM
If I don't bring out the paws, I've missed some of the hide. If i decide not to skin the head I've left out part of the hide. If I shoot a bear with a poor hide I'm going to cut a little fur along with the evidence of sex and let them try to pin me against the wall without any definition of "hide".
People are committing real crimes all around the state, do they really want to argue with me over what is technically a what constitutes a valid hide?
In Idaho the rules say you cannot be caught with a hide that isn't sealed. It doesn't say you'll be penalized for not wanting the hide at all...
Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 05:07:40 PM
What is the hide sealing requirement for?
If I don't bring out the paws, I've missed some of the hide. If i decide not to skin the head I've left out part of the hide. If I shoot a bear with a poor hide I'm going to cut a little fur along with the evidence of sex and let them try to pin me against the wall without any definition of "hide".
People are committing real crimes all around the state, do they really want to argue with me over what is technically a what constitutes a valid hide?
In Idaho the rules say you cannot be caught with a hide that isn't sealed. It doesn't say you'll be penalized for not wanting the hide at all...
Its because not enough people are reporting. They feel mandatory hide sealing will increase percentage of reporting. They want more data on how many bears are being killed, and specifically how many females. The people who are opposed to spring bear hunting, and are blocking more liberal spring bear hunting regs, cite their main concern as sows with cubs being killed. So with the mandatory hide checks, they figure the vast majority of successful hunters will check in their hides so they can keep them. Then, if it turns out theres not a wholesale slaughter of nursing sows going on, the people blocking increased spring bear hunting have lost their only real argument. So going along with the minor inconvenience can only help us in the end, unless everybody decides to whack lactating sows in the spring.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 15, 2020, 05:27:42 PM
Ghost hunter, i see what youre doing by posting up all the other states bear sealing requirements. I get it. But if were going to play the "idaho / montana / wyoming does it" game, then we should do it right. They also have otc spring bear, hound hunting for lions, wolf hunting and trapping, leg hold traps etc. If wdfw gives us all that, really plays the " the other states do it " game to the full extent, id gladly get all my bear hides sealed with never a complaint out of my mouth. But for us to only have other states burdens, but not other states opportunities, screw that.I got no argument with that logic. I have no plans on tanning or mounting a bear unless it's a large color phase. Skull and claws for gift projects. It's the voters that made most of the difference from other states. How long will it take them to be Californicated. :dunno:
Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 05:31:20 PM
Ghost hunter, i see what youre doing by posting up all the other states bear sealing requirements. I get it. But if were going to play the "idaho / montana / wyoming does it" game, then we should do it right. They also have otc spring bear, hound hunting for lions, wolf hunting and trapping, leg hold traps etc. If wdfw gives us all that, really plays the " the other states do it " game to the full extent, id gladly get all my bear hides sealed with never a complaint out of my mouth. But for us to only have other states burdens, but not other states opportunities, screw that.I got no argument with that logic. I have no plans on tanning or mounting a bear unless it's a large color phase. Skull and claws for gift projects. It's the voters that made most of the difference from other states. How long will it take them to be Californicated. :dunno:
And i get that in the case of somebody who doesnt want to keep the hide, its nothing but a burden. But packing out as hide really isnt the end of the world, and if we can show them that spring season doesnt mean a massacre of lactating sows, it will help us get incre as sed spring opportunity. So please, i know it sucks, but i encourage everybody to play along for the time being, in the hopes that we can continue to get increased bear hunting opportunities. Not only for our own recreational enjoyment in besr hunting, but because the more bear hunting opportunity people have, the more it helps our deer out.
If we all play along for a couple years, and the harvest stats prove us out that were not out causing tons of cubs to be orphaned in the spring, then the little old ladies from seattle on the commission wont have a leg to stand on, and we should be able to get expanded spring hunting.
If we prove ourselves, and we still dont get squst anyway, then by all means, screw em. Leave every hide in the woods and dont report a dsmned thing. Hell, target sows on purpose at that point.
But for now, i think we should play the game. There is still the potential to get what we need. We just need to show them their concerns are unfounded.
Post by: KFhunter on January 15, 2020, 06:11:03 PM
I'm gonna yank out that tooth, cut the scrotum or vulva and a strip of hide to go with it.
Would fit in a quart ziplock bag no prob.
Convince me I'm wrong.....
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Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 06:26:32 PM
I ain't packing the whole hide or skull.
I'm gonna yank out that tooth, cut the scrotum or vulva and a strip of hide to go with it.
Would fit in a quart ziplock bag no prob.
Convince me I'm wrong.....
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If its a sow, that wont tell them if its nursing or not. The whole point of the hide sesling thing is to convince them that a spring season doesnt cause an excessive number of nursing sows to be killed. Your proposed method wont help us with that.
The only way we might get increased spring hunting is to convince them that were not slaughtering nursing sows. So their milkers need to be checked.
Post by: Alan K on January 15, 2020, 07:03:33 PM
Maybe it's an optics thing? But then why do we have January cow elk hunts where the hunter actually takes two elk with their harvest, albeit the second one is only the size of a half gallon milk carton.
And it would be pretty easy to get report numbers up, simply don't sell a license the following year, not just a slap on the wrist $10 fine. :dunno:
Post by: Bango skank on January 15, 2020, 07:12:51 PM
What I don't understand is what the big deal is with harvesting sows, even nursing sows... There is not a shortage of bears out there!
Maybe it's an optics thing? But then why do we have January cow elk hunts where the hunter actually takes two elk with their harvest, albeit the second one is only the size of a half gallon milk carton.
And it would be pretty easy to get report numbers up, simply don't sell a license the following year, not just a slap on the wrist $10 fine. :dunno:
Im with you 100% on that. Numbers need to be reduced. But a lot of little old ladies and granola munchin tree huggers out there that just dont have a clue about our predator problems get upset by it. Thats the bottom line.
Really, in an ideal world where our bears *and other predators) were kept at reasonable numbers and our herds were healthy, i wouldnt want nursing sows getting shot. But as it stands, things sre so out of control, its unfortunately what is needed, as its the most effective way to reduce predation. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but i recognize that the problem is to the point that its justified. Just like shooting a female coyote when there are pups in the den. Is it a bit harsh? Yeah. Do i like the thought of helpless pups / cubs dying? No. But the situation we are in, anything goes.
Post by: dilleytech on January 16, 2020, 05:22:20 PM
What is the hide sealing requirement for?
If I don't bring out the paws, I've missed some of the hide. If i decide not to skin the head I've left out part of the hide. If I shoot a bear with a poor hide I'm going to cut a little fur along with the evidence of sex and let them try to pin me against the wall without any definition of "hide".
People are committing real crimes all around the state, do they really want to argue with me over what is technically a what constitutes a valid hide?
In Idaho the rules say you cannot be caught with a hide that isn't sealed. It doesn't say you'll be penalized for not wanting the hide at all...
Its because not enough people are reporting. They feel mandatory hide sealing will increase percentage of reporting. They want more data on how many bears are being killed, and specifically how many females. The people who are opposed to spring bear hunting, and are blocking more liberal spring bear hunting regs, cite their main concern as sows with cubs being killed. So with the mandatory hide checks, they figure the vast majority of successful hunters will check in their hides so they can keep them. Then, if it turns out theres not a wholesale slaughter of nursing sows going on, the people blocking increased spring bear hunting have lost their only real argument. So going along with the minor inconvenience can only help us in the end, unless everybody decides to whack lactating sows in the spring.
I expect this will have the opposite affect. Just like the mandatory tooth submission. People who kill bears and don’t follow the letter of the law will simply report not successfull to avoid exposing themselves. Make following the law more simple and you will see more honest reporting.
Post by: dilleytech on January 16, 2020, 05:26:33 PM
Has no one been able to confirm are we actually expected to carry out the entire hide? Seems obvious you wouldn’t. For example if you wanted to to do a shoulder mount you would need less then half the hide but sure you would need it sealed to have the work done. Why couldn’t you just bring the skull with fur on it and proof of sex attached to one quarter? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
As previously posted. Spring 2020 regs available online.
Report requirement: Hunters will be required to report hunting activity for each special permit awarded in addition to their general season hunting activity report. All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays) by calling 844-992-7266 to provide the hunter’s name, date and GMU of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, with evidence of sex, and skull must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.
That’s not an answer to the question. “Raw pelt” seems pretty vague. I guess a ear will do..
Post by: Bango skank on January 16, 2020, 05:29:35 PM
Has no one been able to confirm are we actually expected to carry out the entire hide? Seems obvious you wouldn’t. For example if you wanted to to do a shoulder mount you would need less then half the hide but sure you would need it sealed to have the work done. Why couldn’t you just bring the skull with fur on it and proof of sex attached to one quarter? Doesn’t make any sense to me.
As previously posted. Spring 2020 regs available online.
Report requirement: Hunters will be required to report hunting activity for each special permit awarded in addition to their general season hunting activity report. All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays) by calling 844-992-7266 to provide the hunter’s name, date and GMU of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, with evidence of sex, and skull must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.
That’s not an answer to the question. “Raw pelt” seems pretty vague. I guess a ear will do..
See bold above. An ear will not do.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 16, 2020, 05:38:47 PM
Post by: snake on January 16, 2020, 07:15:35 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 20, 2020, 10:55:46 AM
I don't like creating a new regulation to address poor compliance with an existing regulation, when no efforts have been made (that I'm aware of) to enforce the existing regulation. There should have been a targeted enforcement effort at the 80% of successful hunters who did not submit a tooth as required. Tickets and fines would have greatly increased future compliance as the word got out, and we wouldn't be saddled with carrying out an unwanted hide.
If a significant portion of successful hunters begin reporting unsuccessful, we will see a reduction in bear harvest and provide strong ammo to the people who want bear hunting reduced or eliminated. Don't give them the data to do that.
Post by: Special T on January 20, 2020, 11:36:17 AM
I wrote in opposition to mandatory hide sealing but now that we have it for spring bear we should comply. The scrotum, or vulva with a piece of hide attached including the nipples, will allow determination of sex and lactation status. Tooth submissions are pretty important as both age and frequency of reproduction in sows can be determined.
I don't like creating a new regulation to address poor compliance with an existing regulation, when no efforts have been made (that I'm aware of) to enforce the existing regulation. There should have been a targeted enforcement effort at the 80% of successful hunters who did not submit a tooth as required. Tickets and fines would have greatly increased future compliance as the word got out, and we wouldn't be saddled with carrying out an unwanted hide.
If a significant portion of successful hunters begin reporting unsuccessful, we will see a reduction in bear harvest and provide strong ammo to the people who want bear hunting reduced or eliminated. Don't give them the data to do that.
Wise words we should all listen to!
Post by: Bango skank on January 20, 2020, 11:43:48 AM
I wrote in opposition to mandatory hide sealing but now that we have it for spring bear we should comply. The scrotum, or vulva with a piece of hide attached including the nipples, will allow determination of sex and lactation status. Tooth submissions are pretty important as both age and frequency of reproduction in sows can be determined.
I don't like creating a new regulation to address poor compliance with an existing regulation, when no efforts have been made (that I'm aware of) to enforce the existing regulation. There should have been a targeted enforcement effort at the 80% of successful hunters who did not submit a tooth as required. Tickets and fines would have greatly increased future compliance as the word got out, and we wouldn't be saddled with carrying out an unwanted hide.
If a significant portion of successful hunters begin reporting unsuccessful, we will see a reduction in bear harvest and provide strong ammo to the people who want bear hunting reduced or eliminated. Don't give them the data to do that.
A good point. They would use declining harvest to conclude the bear population is suffering, and restrict harvest. Wdfw says clearly in multiple publications that they do not have a population estimate for bears, znd instead use hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimates. The higher the harvest and the higher hunter success percentage, the higher the bear population is assumed to be. Id like to keep the aug 1st / 2 bear thing going. Best way to show them that we have a ton of bears is to kill and report a lot of bears.
Ill be real interested to see how much of a jump in harvest numbers are reported in the northeast last year.
Post by: Bango skank on January 28, 2020, 10:23:07 AM
Post by: Bango skank on January 28, 2020, 10:26:42 AM
Post by: buckfvr on January 28, 2020, 10:33:42 AM
Post by: Bango skank on January 28, 2020, 10:34:54 AM
Post by: Stein on January 28, 2020, 11:09:03 AM
Post by: snake on January 28, 2020, 05:42:12 PM
Post by: Jellymon on January 28, 2020, 06:24:45 PM
Post by: Bango skank on January 28, 2020, 06:45:23 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on January 28, 2020, 07:15:05 PM
And a kick to your womans trunk requiring her to pay for own access pass. And then after you have a pass you can't hunt fall bear with fire dangers, no elk hunting with a general access pass, cougar quotas met early reducing time and opportunities for late season predators, no access during elk seasons for any recreation without special elk drawing, excess deer restrictions, etc.....
Hancock is a great investment everyone. Come buy your passes for 2020.
Post by: duckmen1 on February 06, 2020, 10:44:44 AM
Post by: Antlershed on February 06, 2020, 12:43:56 PM
Post by: Bango skank on February 13, 2020, 01:37:55 PM
Post by: hunter399 on February 13, 2020, 01:43:53 PM
Another email from wdfw trying to sell bear apps. Now they added shed hunting as a reason you should apply. Why dont they add protecting fawns and calves from predation as a reason?That might work shed hunting if they could manage deer ,elk,moose better so that there was more than ten sheds in a 100 square miles.
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 27, 2020, 06:52:25 PM
Post by: BreezyBear on February 27, 2020, 06:55:31 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on February 27, 2020, 06:55:53 PM
So I signed up for spring bear but the guy didn’t ask what units I wanted to hunt- did he mess up and only purchased my point and I’m not in the drawing? I thought last year I had to choose 3 units. I was just watching some Idaho spring bear hunting videos and the guy mentioned choosing his top units and it hit me that I didn’t choose my preferred units.
For wa. You have to go on line and put in your unit picks.
You have till the 29 th to get it done.
Post by: millerwheeler on February 27, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
So I signed up for spring bear but the guy didn’t ask what units I wanted to hunt- did he mess up and only purchased my point and I’m not in the drawing? I thought last year I had to choose 3 units. I was just watching some Idaho spring bear hunting videos and the guy mentioned choosing his top units and it hit me that I didn’t choose my preferred units.
Ya did something wrong once u purchase application . U have to actually apply pick units or points
Post by: BreezyBear on February 27, 2020, 06:59:06 PM
Post by: Sutherland on February 27, 2020, 07:03:14 PM
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 27, 2020, 07:29:41 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on February 27, 2020, 08:26:46 PM
Deadline is the 28th
My bag , 28th
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/special-hunts/bear
Post by: Bango skank on February 29, 2020, 12:14:15 AM
DANG IT! I said spring bear multiple times but was in a rush cause I was doing it on lunch- it says I got my bear and my 2nd bear tag. Not my spring bear application. I’ll have to run in tomorrow.
Why? You can buy and apply online, its very easy.
Post by: Bango skank on February 29, 2020, 12:14:44 AM
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 29, 2020, 06:48:23 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 29, 2020, 06:51:37 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 29, 2020, 07:02:47 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on February 29, 2020, 07:08:03 AM
Did they draw yet?
DNRY ;)
Post by: trophyhunt on February 29, 2020, 11:03:59 AM
Post by: Bango skank on February 29, 2020, 11:16:02 AM
Post by: SpicyTacos on February 29, 2020, 11:19:41 AM
Good luck guys, we will know in a couple weeks, it’s the official start of “not selected” season!
Hahahahaha.
On point with that comment.
But somehow every year we sign up for "non selected" season.
Pick me all mighty WFDW, praise Bear Jesus!!!
Post by: SpicyTacos on February 29, 2020, 11:27:05 AM
AMEN
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 29, 2020, 12:52:51 PM
Post by: cougforester on February 29, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
Post by: 87Ford on February 29, 2020, 01:24:32 PM
Post by: snake on February 29, 2020, 01:35:13 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 29, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
Talking to a guy yesterday that said he applied.
I asked him for what hunts and he had no clue what a I was talking about.
I helped him submit his application, but was wondering if I had not talked to him would he even have gotten a point?
Post by: Bango skank on February 29, 2020, 01:48:32 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on February 29, 2020, 02:08:10 PM
Yes, if you buy the app but dont submit then you automatically get a point.
Do you still get a point if you don't hit point option though ? I thought it changed with new system few years back
Post by: Bango skank on February 29, 2020, 02:09:55 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on February 29, 2020, 02:15:22 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 29, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on February 29, 2020, 04:13:11 PM
If you bought your permit but didn’t submit it, you will slow the process down. They will have to call you and find out it you wanted points or what unit. This happened when I witnessed the draw a couple years ago, we had to wait for the 3 guys to call us back...... :bash:
Now that's surprising.
I just figured it would only count those submitted, purchaser would be sol.
Good thing I said something to him.
Should make the draw an hour sooner.
Unfortunately because he's a clueless applicant that has no idea he'll probably get drawn.
Post by: cougforester on February 29, 2020, 04:20:29 PM
If you bought your permit but didn’t submit it, you will slow the process down. They will have to call you and find out it you wanted points or what unit. This happened when I witnessed the draw a couple years ago, we had to wait for the 3 guys to call us back...... :bash:
Now that's surprising.
I just figured it would only count those submitted, purchaser would be sol.
Good thing I said something to him.
Should make the draw an hour sooner.
Unfortunately because he's a clueless applicant that has no idea he'll probably get drawn.
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on February 29, 2020, 04:40:42 PM
i was surprised they took the time to call them, I told them they should just drop them from the drawing for being retards, but they thought because they spent the money they should get a courtesy call. I bet If it took too long they would just give them the points option.If you bought your permit but didn’t submit it, you will slow the process down. They will have to call you and find out it you wanted points or what unit. This happened when I witnessed the draw a couple years ago, we had to wait for the 3 guys to call us back...... :bash:
Now that's surprising.
I just figured it would only count those submitted, purchaser would be sol.
Good thing I said something to him.
Should make the draw an hour sooner.
Unfortunately because he's a clueless applicant that has no idea he'll probably get drawn.
Post by: jrebel on February 29, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
i was surprised they took the time to call them, I told them they should just drop them from the drawing for being retards, but they thought because they spent the money they should get a courtesy call. I bet If it took too long they would just give them the points option.If you bought your permit but didn’t submit it, you will slow the process down. They will have to call you and find out it you wanted points or what unit. This happened when I witnessed the draw a couple years ago, we had to wait for the 3 guys to call us back...... :bash:
Now that's surprising.
I just figured it would only count those submitted, purchaser would be sol.
Good thing I said something to him.
Should make the draw an hour sooner.
Unfortunately because he's a clueless applicant that has no idea he'll probably get drawn.
This does not sound right. My buddy bought a special deer permit last year and forgot to put in for the draw. He never recieved a phone call.....he did get a point though. I was always told they just get a point if they forget to submit.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 01, 2020, 06:39:37 AM
Post by: The scout on March 01, 2020, 07:59:29 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 01, 2020, 08:30:46 AM
i was surprised they took the time to call them, I told them they should just drop them from the drawing for being retards, but they thought because they spent the money they should get a courtesy call. I bet If it took too long they would just give them the points option.If you bought your permit but didn’t submit it, you will slow the process down. They will have to call you and find out it you wanted points or what unit. This happened when I witnessed the draw a couple years ago, we had to wait for the 3 guys to call us back...... :bash:
Now that's surprising.
I just figured it would only count those submitted, purchaser would be sol.
Good thing I said something to him.
Should make the draw an hour sooner.
Unfortunately because he's a clueless applicant that has no idea he'll probably get drawn.
This does not sound right. My buddy bought a special deer permit last year and forgot to put in for the draw. He never recieved a phone call.....he did get a point though. I was always told they just get a point if they forget to submit.
bro forgot to submit last year, no phone call but he did get the point
I was hunt leader, but luckily I didn't get drawn, so now we both got like 5 pts riding on it this year
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2020, 09:49:55 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2020, 10:00:57 AM
Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 01, 2020, 10:49:00 AM
Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
Post by: hunter399 on March 01, 2020, 10:55:21 AM
What are you guys talking about my confirmation number was like a 10 digit number :dunno:Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
Anyway there was about 10,000 bear permits submitted last year.
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 01, 2020, 10:57:19 AM
What are you guys talking about my confirmation number was like a 10 digit number :dunno:Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
Anyway there was about 10,000 bear permits submitted last year.
Ignore the zero's...…………….
Post by: Bango skank on March 01, 2020, 11:09:22 AM
Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
One of my suggestions to wdfw via emails and then at the march commission meeting in spokane was to go to otc spring bear, but make the spring license only good during the spring season. If a hunter failed to fill his spring tag it would be invalid for the fall hunt, and he would have to buy a fall tag to hunt the fall season. My argument was that this could potentially increase revenue.
So about 5000 permits sold? Thats $35,500 in permit apps. If those 5000 sales were otc bear tags at $24ea that would have been $120,000.
Harvest results last year showed about a 15% success rate in ne, so 85% of people failed, and would have had to throw that tag away and buy a separate fall tag for $24 to hunt come august. Likely the majority of successful spring bear hunters would have bought another tag come fall to have with them "just in case" during deer and elk season. The number of hunters who actually buy 2 bear tags a year is very low, and the number who fill both is even lower. My idea would have raised those numbers significantly i believe. And I really think my idea of otc spring tags only valid during spring would actually increase their revenue. I figured the best chance we had of getting otc spring was to convince them it would lead to an increase of income. Unfortunately though they didnt seem inclined to give my idea any consideration.
Post by: Bango skank on March 01, 2020, 11:12:23 AM
What are you guys talking about my confirmation number was like a 10 digit number :dunno:Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
Anyway there was about 10,000 bear permits submitted last year.
Ignore the zero's...…………….
Yeah, ignore the zeros, and not all of those apps were individual hunters. Lots of people apply for 2-4 permits.
I applied jan 2nd, in the morning, my con # is 4
Post by: millerwheeler on March 01, 2020, 06:56:10 PM
Who has the highest confirmation number? Curious how many applications were submitted. I submitted January 2nd with #10.put my dad in on Friday, his number was 4884 if that means anything.
:tup: That would put it in the neighborhood. Each special permit category appears to have a separate series of confirmation numbers. That's approximately $35,000 in application fees.
One of my suggestions to wdfw via emails and then at the march commission meeting in spokane was to go to otc spring bear, but make the spring license only good during the spring season. If a hunter failed to fill his spring tag it would be invalid for the fall hunt, and he would have to buy a fall tag to hunt the fall season. My argument was that this could potentially increase revenue.
So about 5000 permits sold? Thats $35,500 in permit apps. If those 5000 sales were otc bear tags at $24ea that would have been $120,000.
Harvest results last year showed about a 15% success rate in ne, so 85% of people failed, and would have had to throw that tag away and buy a separate fall tag for $24 to hunt come august. Likely the majority of successful spring bear hunters would have bought another tag come fall to have with them "just in case" during deer and elk season. The number of hunters who actually buy 2 bear tags a year is very low, and the number who fill both is even lower. My idea would have raised those numbers significantly i believe. And I really think my idea of otc spring tags only valid during spring would actually increase their revenue. I figured the best chance we had of getting otc spring was to convince them it would lead to an increase of income. Unfortunately though they didnt seem inclined to give my idea any consideration.
Great suggestion here seams that could have gained traction
Post by: RB on March 01, 2020, 07:56:20 PM
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 02, 2020, 01:30:23 PM
Post by: MHWASH on March 02, 2020, 02:24:07 PM
Post by: Thehowler on March 02, 2020, 03:42:10 PM
Post by: dilleytech on March 03, 2020, 11:13:02 AM
Post by: HillHound on March 03, 2020, 11:15:34 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 03, 2020, 03:08:02 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 03, 2020, 03:14:53 PM
When is the deadline to apply?
4 days ago
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on March 03, 2020, 05:40:09 PM
When’s the draw date?
"Hunters who submit their applications are entered in a drawing in mid-March. The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will notify winners no later than March 31. Applicants can also check the drawing results through the WILD system by logging into their account at fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/."
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/spring-black-bear-special-hunt-applications-due-feb-28-1
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on March 03, 2020, 05:51:18 PM
When’s the draw date?
"Hunters who submit their applications are entered in a drawing in mid-March. The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) will notify winners no later than March 31. Applicants can also check the drawing results through the WILD system by logging into their account at fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/."
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/spring-black-bear-special-hunt-applications-due-feb-28-1
I hope I'm notified by March 31st if the hunt starts April 1st... not that I'd be hunting opening day but just kind of funny they would suggest letting us know the day before a tag was good.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 03, 2020, 07:01:03 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 03, 2020, 10:56:31 PM
It’s just to cover their buttifwhen something goes way wrong w the system. You will know before the 31st, we usually find out the 2nd week of March.
Ftfy
Post by: Katmai Guy on March 03, 2020, 11:24:47 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 04, 2020, 06:31:56 AM
Predicting Mar 8th,😎definitely not on a sunday.
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 04, 2020, 09:31:08 AM
Post by: SpicyTacos on March 04, 2020, 02:07:22 PM
Bear Jesus is predicting March 16th 2:13pm
Post by: BreezyBear on March 04, 2020, 02:55:42 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on March 04, 2020, 03:19:35 PM
Predicting Mar 8th,😎definitely not on a sunday.
LOL, *censored*! Haven't been working for a while, haven't cared what day it was. 9th then.
Post by: BUTTER on March 04, 2020, 05:28:40 PM
Post by: ghosthunter on March 04, 2020, 08:01:28 PM
So they have to draw soon.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 04, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
In the past they had a meeting you had to attend prior to the hunt.Ive drawn a few times and never had to attend a meeting, long time ago they would send you a video but that’s been a while.
So they have to draw soon.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 04, 2020, 09:57:20 PM
In the past they had a meeting you had to attend prior to the hunt.Ive drawn a few times and never had to attend a meeting, long time ago they would send you a video but that’s been a while.
So they have to draw soon.
Might be just Skagit because involves private timber lands. Been to two.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 04, 2020, 09:58:33 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 05, 2020, 01:18:15 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 05, 2020, 05:24:28 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 05, 2020, 05:32:42 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 05, 2020, 06:58:34 AM
They are waiting till this thread reaches a fever pitch to draw!!! :hello:
:yeah: I refuse to be a part of the mass hysteria. Err...…..I mean...…...hurry up and draw, I need an excuse to get to camp. >:(
Post by: trophyhunt on March 05, 2020, 07:14:16 AM
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 05, 2020, 07:16:54 AM
Post by: Onewhohikes on March 05, 2020, 10:03:20 AM
Post by: Antlershed on March 05, 2020, 10:50:09 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 05, 2020, 12:00:53 PM
Just got word the NRB is closing down for 3 weeks due to Corona Virus. :sry:what is NRB?
Post by: cougforester on March 05, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
Just got word the NRB is closing down for 3 weeks due to Corona Virus. :sry:what is NRB?
Natural resouce building. WDFW headquarters.
Post by: whackmaster on March 05, 2020, 02:24:13 PM
Just got word the NRB is closing down for 3 weeks due to Corona Virus. :sry:what is NRB?
Natural resouce building. WDFW headquarters.
I heard they where shutting down for 6 weeks :dunno:
Post by: Sutherland on March 05, 2020, 02:27:21 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 05, 2020, 02:28:40 PM
Just got word the NRB is closing down for 3 weeks due to Corona Virus. :sry:what is NRB?
Natural resouce building. WDFW headquarters.
I heard they where shutting down for 6 weeks :dunno:
Well boys, looks like its OTC by default
Post by: cougforester on March 05, 2020, 02:34:16 PM
Just got word the NRB is closing down for 3 weeks due to Corona Virus. :sry:what is NRB?
Natural resouce building. WDFW headquarters.
I heard they where shutting down for 6 weeks :dunno:
Well boys, looks like its OTC by default
I like the way you think.
Post by: NitRally on March 05, 2020, 03:58:29 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on March 05, 2020, 04:00:41 PM
Hi im new here, whats OTC? Over the counter?
Correct
Post by: NitRally on March 05, 2020, 04:06:03 PM
Post by: carlyoungs on March 05, 2020, 04:08:34 PM
Thanks, hopefully the shut down doesnt effect the drawing.
I think he is just messing with everyone. It's a normal thing when everyone is waiting for draw results.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 05, 2020, 04:25:17 PM
:yeah:Thanks, hopefully the shut down doesnt effect the drawing.
I think he is just messing with everyone. It's a normal thing when everyone is waiting for draw results.
Post by: StuckoYota99 on March 06, 2020, 08:24:09 AM
Post by: Antlershed on March 06, 2020, 09:20:19 AM
:chuckle:Thanks, hopefully the shut down doesnt effect the drawing.
I think he is just messing with everyone. It's a normal thing when everyone is waiting for draw results.
Post by: Shooter4 on March 09, 2020, 08:26:03 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 09, 2020, 08:29:09 AM
Post by: Sutherland on March 09, 2020, 09:32:25 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 09, 2020, 09:35:31 AM
Post by: spoonman on March 09, 2020, 10:00:58 AM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 10, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 10, 2020, 08:57:04 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:10:46 AM
We dont have near enough pages yet for them to draw! :chuckle:
all my pages are on the corona thread :chuckle: :peep:
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:14:07 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225254.0;attach=477329;image)
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:15:45 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=225254.0;attach=477410;image)
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:16:59 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:17:49 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:18:40 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:19:53 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:21:10 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 10, 2020, 09:23:09 AM
@Zardoz
Post by: trophyhunt on March 10, 2020, 09:45:57 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 10, 2020, 09:59:46 AM
I just had to resurrect some old memes I made from couple years ago :chuckle:
@Zardoz
I thought I was taking the bear identity test again for WDFW. :chuckle:
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 10, 2020, 10:28:51 AM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 10, 2020, 10:43:34 AM
Results have been posted on this day before.:IBCOOL:
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 10, 2020, 05:27:31 PM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 10, 2020, 06:01:24 PM
Post by: Sutherland on March 10, 2020, 06:12:09 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 10, 2020, 06:53:52 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 10, 2020, 07:07:10 PM
Tomorrow’s the daylets hope so.
Post by: Shooter4 on March 10, 2020, 07:26:15 PM
I’m tired of refreshing my damn email every hour hahaTomorrow’s the daylets hope so.
Post by: elkrack on March 10, 2020, 08:44:00 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 10, 2020, 10:39:33 PM
Don’t get your hopes up!lol,
Post by: Bango skank on March 10, 2020, 11:50:46 PM
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 11, 2020, 06:52:54 AM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 07:18:11 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 11, 2020, 07:20:20 AM
Im guessing the 16th. Theyll leave us hanging over the weekend.
Agreed why would they do us a solid on friday
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 07:37:22 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 07:40:11 AM
Nah, it’s gonna be Friday the 13th.
If it happens on Friday the 13th, it's guaranteed that there will be a re-draw. It's just too perfect to not happen that way.
Post by: Antlershed on March 11, 2020, 07:44:47 AM
There due for a draw on a WednesdayIt was on Wednesday the 13th last year.
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 07:46:15 AM
I thought it was the 12..?There due for a draw on a WednesdayIt was on Wednesday the 13th last year.
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 11, 2020, 07:55:03 AM
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 11, 2020, 07:55:39 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 08:42:11 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on March 11, 2020, 08:58:00 AM
Post by: carlyoungs on March 11, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 09:01:48 AM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 10:02:16 AM
I love reading WDFWs Facebook just for the comment section and look at this! I think I have a chance to win the Friday the 13th guessIs this last years? Lol can’t find that
Post by: Antlershed on March 11, 2020, 10:13:58 AM
My points show last updated 3/13/2019, so that is why I thought it was the 13th. Could be wrong though.I thought it was the 12..?There due for a draw on a WednesdayIt was on Wednesday the 13th last year.
Post by: Bango skank on March 11, 2020, 10:18:36 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 10:21:46 AM
We have a few topics we need to cover here: WDFW conspiracy theories, incompetent government, overall predator numbers....
Maybe we could kick in a few Weinstein and Biden references for kicks.
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 10:23:35 AM
The cool thing? This means I'll get to shoot some gobblers. When your only option is spring bear or spring turkey, there is no such thing as a loss!
Post by: Bango skank on March 11, 2020, 10:24:25 AM
I gained a point - looks like I'm out :chuckle:
The cool thing? This means I'll get to shoot some gobblers. When your only option is spring bear or spring turkey, there is no such thing as a loss!
Thats not your only option. Cougar is still open in most of the state through april 30th.
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 11, 2020, 10:25:51 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 10:28:55 AM
I gained a point - looks like I'm out :chuckle:
The cool thing? This means I'll get to shoot some gobblers. When your only option is spring bear or spring turkey, there is no such thing as a loss!
Thats not your only option. Cougar is still open in most of the state through april 30th.
I don't hunt until mid May. This would be a good opportunity to blast us west siders who should be coming out in April so we can have an opportunity at cougar (well not really because the Huck never has a late season).
That should get us another 5 pages! :tup: :chuckle:
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 11, 2020, 10:35:18 AM
Post by: Bango skank on March 11, 2020, 10:36:05 AM
Post by: tonymiller7 on March 11, 2020, 10:36:54 AM
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 10:38:44 AM
Officially updated to not selected. I guess this means ill call in a booner blondie next month.
Not selected :(
Gobbler time! 8)
Post by: MAGhunter on March 11, 2020, 10:39:18 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on March 11, 2020, 10:40:08 AM
Post by: cougforester on March 11, 2020, 10:41:22 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 11, 2020, 10:46:06 AM
49 DEGREES NORTH!
Not my first choice but better than nothing.
My first choice was huckleberry.
Post by: ThurstonCokid on March 11, 2020, 10:46:30 AM
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Post by: huntinkid20 on March 11, 2020, 10:49:37 AM
Post by: KFhunter on March 11, 2020, 10:53:02 AM
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Post by: carlyoungs on March 11, 2020, 10:57:46 AM
Post by: STLHDHunter on March 11, 2020, 11:06:07 AM
Super stoked to finally get a chance at some Spring Bears.
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 11:07:27 AM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 11, 2020, 11:11:42 AM
Post by: HUNT JR on March 11, 2020, 11:13:54 AM
Post by: MooseZ25 on March 11, 2020, 11:17:49 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 11:18:26 AM
Also do emails get send out directly afteremails will go out soon!
Post by: h20hunter on March 11, 2020, 11:19:00 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 11:19:40 AM
Post by: Milkman on March 11, 2020, 11:21:14 AM
Post by: NitRally on March 11, 2020, 11:22:30 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 11:23:57 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 11, 2020, 11:24:12 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on March 11, 2020, 11:27:50 AM
Post by: bearmanric on March 11, 2020, 11:28:58 AM
Post by: Muley Chaser on March 11, 2020, 11:29:46 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on March 11, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
Grandson also not drawn.
Post by: mburrows on March 11, 2020, 11:36:01 AM
Post by: CJ1962 on March 11, 2020, 11:50:27 AM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 11, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
This will be my first spring bear hunt. Looking forward to it!
Post by: avidnwoutdoorsman on March 11, 2020, 11:54:46 AM
7,015 apps this year for just over 600 permits, tough odds. Most apps ever they said for spring bear.
Think they will get a message from this? Probably not, but it hopefully will tell them there is an interest or a need to knock down the bear population.
Not Selected btw.
Post by: Latakia on March 11, 2020, 12:02:58 PM
Post by: elkrack on March 11, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 11, 2020, 12:22:35 PM
Post by: High Climber on March 11, 2020, 12:33:04 PM
Huckleberry here I come!Me as well :tup:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 11, 2020, 12:33:35 PM
Selected Kelly hill plus will be hunting Montana spring bear and wold when I make my Toneboards awsome. Have outstanding bear calls making more today. Rick
Lost one of your closed reed calls on my property in 105 last fall. Hope I stumble across it. Let me know when your in the area. If you have extra's onboard, I might take 1 or 2. There have been a couple good bears rambling thru occasionally.
GH
Post by: Chadd314 on March 11, 2020, 12:38:46 PM
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 11, 2020, 12:44:39 PM
7,015 apps this year for just over 600 permits, tough odds. Most apps ever they said for spring bear.
Think they will get a message from this? Probably not, but it hopefully will tell them there is an interest or a need to knock down the bear population.
Not Selected btw.
Tells them their advertising campaign for permit applications is working, and making them money. :dunno: :twocents:
Post by: linxx77 on March 11, 2020, 12:46:49 PM
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Post by: PastorJoel on March 11, 2020, 01:55:21 PM
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 11, 2020, 02:26:04 PM
Post by: The Fin on March 11, 2020, 02:28:02 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 11, 2020, 02:31:13 PM
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Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 11, 2020, 02:44:27 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 11, 2020, 03:28:59 PM
Post by: HillHound on March 11, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
Post by: Dirty Mike on March 11, 2020, 03:59:31 PM
Post by: StuckoYota99 on March 11, 2020, 04:13:52 PM
Post by: Katmai Guy on March 11, 2020, 04:16:08 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 11, 2020, 05:08:23 PM
Just a reminder to anybody who might be hunting spring bear in april in 101 or 117, those units are still open for cougar, bring a 2020 cougar tag. Especially if you plan on doing any callingbango, you responded within less than a minute of results being posted!! Lol. We watched huntwa as they pushed the button, crazy!
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 11, 2020, 05:17:51 PM
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Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 11, 2020, 05:35:24 PM
Post by: Lapua07 on March 11, 2020, 06:20:17 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 11, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: Firetwin3 on March 11, 2020, 06:26:21 PM
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Post by: westside Elkhunter on March 11, 2020, 07:38:21 PM
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Post by: Rob on March 12, 2020, 07:39:03 AM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 12, 2020, 07:48:17 AM
Good luck to everyone this spring!
Post by: Shooter4 on March 12, 2020, 07:54:22 AM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 12, 2020, 08:17:42 AM
I had 2 and have never drawn either lol
Well I managed to draw with only 3 so it is possible!
Post by: Ridgeratt on March 12, 2020, 09:30:19 AM
Not drawing a bear tag isn't going to prevent me from self quarantining for turkey season in 105.
I'd guess that you should be able to Wells Fargo one off the step! I have had several "herds of birds" in the pasture over the last week and as it greens up there will be more.
I will choose to harass the local wally population and pester the burbot.
Just a few cruising the local properties.
Post by: Dirty Mike on March 12, 2020, 12:58:38 PM
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on March 12, 2020, 05:19:48 PM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 13, 2020, 07:13:09 AM
Not drawing a bear tag isn't going to prevent me from self quarantining for turkey season in 105.
I'd guess that you should be able to Wells Fargo one off the step! I have had several "herds of birds" in the pasture over the last week and as it greens up there will be more.
I will choose to harass the local wally population and pester the burbot.
Just a few cruising the local properties.
Might have to come to your backyard. I'm a little high I think. Haven't seen a Tom on the place. A couple of hens have raised their brood close by.
Post by: Ridgeratt on March 13, 2020, 08:35:51 AM
Might have to come to your backyard. I'm a little high I think. Haven't seen a Tom on the place. A couple of hens have raised their brood close by.
I would venture to guess there are Tom's close if you see hens with chicks.
Just like I was told by my Grand father when I didn't see any bucks just does.
You don't think the does are riding the bus to the next county to get bred do ya? :chuckle:
But back on the bear topic. Main roads where starting to get soggy. Lots of the backroads are still blanketed. The Ouija board says 4-7 inches of fresh in the next 2 days.
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 14, 2020, 05:24:54 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 14, 2020, 05:41:54 PM
Post by: HoofsandWings on March 15, 2020, 08:31:51 AM
Post by: carlyoungs on March 15, 2020, 08:43:35 AM
Looks like I am heading to Sherman. Anyone else heading that way?
I am.
Post by: Westernwapiti on March 17, 2020, 07:39:28 PM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 18, 2020, 07:10:17 AM
Looks like I am heading to Sherman. Anyone else heading that way?
I am.
I will see you both out there
Post by: carlyoungs on March 18, 2020, 07:31:34 AM
Post by: hunter399 on March 18, 2020, 09:10:53 AM
Post by: bearmanric on March 18, 2020, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: carlyoungs on March 18, 2020, 05:00:40 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on March 18, 2020, 05:32:05 PM
Post by: High Climber on March 18, 2020, 06:02:55 PM
Post by: carlyoungs on March 18, 2020, 06:04:58 PM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 18, 2020, 07:15:48 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 18, 2020, 07:22:30 PM
So I think WDFW messed up on my permit. Sherman 7000 should be unit 101...
Awesome, looks like you get to hunt both 101 and 105 :tup:
Post by: carlyoungs on March 18, 2020, 07:52:07 PM
So I think WDFW messed up on my permit. Sherman 7000 should be unit 101...
Just looked at mine. I get to hunt Sherman and 105!! Let's meet up and shoot one in each unit :chuckle:
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 18, 2020, 08:26:24 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 19, 2020, 07:43:34 AM
Post by: Bango skank on March 19, 2020, 07:48:53 AM
So after reading this how much of the hide do you habe to submit ? What if someone didn't take the hide ? Just asking as I know not everyone takes the hide
Hide sealing is mandatory. So you have to bring the hide out. I guess you could throw it in the dumpster after its sealed, but if you report a harvest and didnt have a hide sealed, im sure it will be a problem.
Post by: bearmanric on March 19, 2020, 08:14:07 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 19, 2020, 09:08:34 AM
So after reading this how much of the hide do you habe to submit ? What if someone didn't take the hide ? Just asking as I know not everyone takes the hide
Hide sealing is mandatory. So you have to bring the hide out. I guess you could throw it in the dumpster after its sealed, but if you report a harvest and didnt have a hide sealed, im sure it will be a problem.
Wonder why but is what it is
Post by: Bango skank on March 19, 2020, 09:16:04 AM
So after reading this how much of the hide do you habe to submit ? What if someone didn't take the hide ? Just asking as I know not everyone takes the hide
Hide sealing is mandatory. So you have to bring the hide out. I guess you could throw it in the dumpster after its sealed, but if you report a harvest and didnt have a hide sealed, im sure it will be a problem.
Wonder why but is what it is
Because they want more complete harvest data for spring bear hunts. The biggest hurdle to otc spring bear is the misconception that spring bear hunts result in a large percentage of lactating sows getting killed. This hide sealing thing could put an end to that argument, paving the way to otc spring bear.
Post by: cougforester on March 19, 2020, 09:37:50 AM
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Why was this process put in place?
The commission put these rules in place for a few reasons:
1) So proof of sex will be accurately determined
2) So lactation/reproductive status can be determined and recorded on the envelope
a. Staff will likely not be able to observe milk using only a pelt. Instead, lactation can be determined by looking for enlarged teats, staining on the hair surrounding at least 1 of the 6 teats, and hair being spread away from at least 1 of the 6 teats.
Post by: High Climber on March 19, 2020, 10:55:02 AM
I bet the “harvest stats” go down this year.So after reading this how much of the hide do you habe to submit ? What if someone didn't take the hide ? Just asking as I know not everyone takes the hide
Hide sealing is mandatory. So you have to bring the hide out. I guess you could throw it in the dumpster after its sealed, but if you report a harvest and didnt have a hide sealed, im sure it will be a problem.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 19, 2020, 11:29:23 AM
:yeah: might be the first year I toss a hide or don’t report, I’ve always reported and kept the hides. But I’m not driving 1.5 hours one way to get my hide sealed, and that’s only if the Wdfw drives to asotin. Prob not happening.I bet the “harvest stats” go down this year.So after reading this how much of the hide do you habe to submit ? What if someone didn't take the hide ? Just asking as I know not everyone takes the hide
Hide sealing is mandatory. So you have to bring the hide out. I guess you could throw it in the dumpster after its sealed, but if you report a harvest and didnt have a hide sealed, im sure it will be a problem.
Post by: Gunsmoke on March 19, 2020, 12:45:39 PM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 20, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
I called WDFW today and asked about the issue and they created a new corrected permit for me. They can email, fax or mail the corrected permit to you.
So i would suggest giving them a quick call so you don't run in to any issues down the road!
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 09:08:25 AM
For anyone who has a permit that has the incorrect GMU Boundary.If you paid attention to the spring bear permit areas it says #7000 and unit 101 is just part of it..
I called WDFW today and asked about the issue and they created a new corrected permit for me. They can email, fax or mail the corrected permit to you.
So i would suggest giving them a quick call so you don't run in to any issues down the road!
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The people who drew unit 101, their permits also said "kelly hill" which is incorrect, thats 105.
I think its pretty irrelevant now, everybody can probably just use their permit as emergency toilet paper