Post by: Humptulips on December 22, 2019, 08:51:31 PM
Anyway, KOROs are all I have been using this year and been catching 1 or 2 most days. All of them have been dead but some show a mark so maybe not instant death but pretty close.
How to: I think you have to have a box for the trap to force them through the trap. You do need to cut the pan IMO back to about 1/2 inch. Just enough to not ruin the hole for the trigger wire. Do leave the little bait spike on the pan. I took them off some and that is a mistake. It gives them something to step over and in doing so they plant more firmly on the pan. With the full pan they do not get into the trap far enough before they spring it and the jaw pushes their head out. A strike across the shoulders is the most effective on civets so you need to get them in as far as possible.
I think you need to hair trigger them as much as possible. Simple to do if they spring hard. Just bend the trigger wire back a bit. A few of them have a small bur on the trigger wire. A few licks with a flat file take care of that. Most are OK though.
Do attach the trap to the box. They are a little tippy if you don't. I drill a small hole through the front of the box and run a wire through it and over the part of the trap the striker hits.
I tried modifying them with a small conibears type trigger and it didn't work well. Stick with the pan.
Pm me if you want some. I have them for sale.
One last thing. You can go to a 3 day check with them but unless it is freezing better to check every other day. In 3 days they can get a green belly.
Post by: Bango skank on December 22, 2019, 08:59:48 PM
How far do i have to go to find a spotted skunk?
Post by: Humptulips on December 22, 2019, 09:03:54 PM
Man, spotted skunks sure look cool. I dont believe we have them in my neck of the woods. Am i wrong? Seen about a million regular old striped skunks (most of which have been taking asphalt naps.) In fact my taxi is slacking on a skunk mount for me :chuckle:Probably have to make it over the crest to the west side. Thick second growth.
How far do i have to go to find a spotted skunk?
Post by: JakeLand on December 23, 2019, 06:19:05 AM
Thanks Jake
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on December 23, 2019, 06:28:27 AM
Range map shows them in the Blues tooMan, spotted skunks sure look cool. I dont believe we have them in my neck of the woods. Am i wrong? Seen about a million regular old striped skunks (most of which have been taking asphalt naps.) In fact my taxi is slacking on a skunk mount for me :chuckle:Probably have to make it over the crest to the west side. Thick second growth.
How far do i have to go to find a spotted skunk?
Post by: Humptulips on December 23, 2019, 11:43:08 AM
Nice catch ! Is there any documentation that we can print off to keep on hand to prove that it’s legal to use just in case?Check your e-mail
Thanks Jake
Anyone else want the letter from WDFW PM me your e-mail and I'll send it to you.
Post by: JakeLand on December 23, 2019, 12:27:24 PM
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Post by: Humptulips on December 23, 2019, 08:15:27 PM
If there are incidents involving the KORO rat trap in the meantime they are supposed to be reported by Enforcement Officers. This would likely effect that rule making process.
I have to say I can't imagine what kind of incident would happen with the traps though.
I will be involved in this rule making process so hope to see a more permanent rule for their use.
Post by: JakeLand on December 24, 2019, 06:26:05 AM
Post by: lewy on December 24, 2019, 08:19:31 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 24, 2019, 12:13:02 PM
Do you think using it to trap mink and the trap being a “rodent trap “ that it would make a issue IF a LEO got involved hypothetically if it was set legal and in the up and up ?The basis for them being used is that they are categorized as a rat trap in that they are designed and sold to trap rats. That gets them an exemption from I-713. There is no limitations on what animals can be trapped in a trap exempt from the law.
Post by: Humptulips on December 24, 2019, 12:14:19 PM
Are those skunks releasing when smacked by the koro Bruce?I have not noticed where they have.
Post by: wags on December 24, 2019, 12:57:35 PM
Post by: Humptulips on December 24, 2019, 05:04:01 PM
could you post a picture of your box? Or PM me a picture?
Post by: Humptulips on December 27, 2019, 12:04:12 AM
Post by: JakeLand on December 27, 2019, 05:49:06 AM
Post by: Humptulips on December 27, 2019, 08:37:29 AM
Post by: JakeLand on December 28, 2019, 12:20:33 PM
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Post by: Humptulips on December 29, 2019, 03:03:25 AM
One on the left looks ratty because it is. Half eaten by something.
I'm having problems though. Getting some live ones in the traps. Have to rethink my strategy. I have been hair triggering them but might try a stiffer trigger and tie the bait in the back of the box. I like Jakes bait spike. I might have to do something similar. The problem is they need to get farther in so you can get a strike across the shoulder. Neck strikes leave something to be desired. I think with a stiffer trigger and the bait tied in the back so they can't pull it out I might improve the shoulder strike odds. Still experimenting to find the best method.
Post by: wags on December 29, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
I noticed your rig has the trap right at the entrance.
Post by: Humptulips on December 29, 2019, 12:14:01 PM
Bruce, do you think Jake's setup has the trap about the right distance from his bait spike, or??I think both would work OK but think all that extra box before they get to the trap is wasted.
I noticed your rig has the trap right at the entrance.
I also believe that all you need for room behind the trap is enough for the bait, especially so with Jakes bait spike.
However Jake is going to use them on marten and that is something I know nothing about. I'll let you guys decide on that. Do you have problems with raptors getting marten? That extra room would hide them good if that is the case.
I would like to come up with a way for the animal and trap to fall out of the box when caught. If I could figure that out I would probably use a run pole as that would solve the cannibalism problem which does happen with civets.
Post by: JakeLand on December 29, 2019, 04:20:57 PM
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Post by: Humptulips on January 10, 2020, 06:32:02 PM
I caught 6 but I had one of the more unusual catches today then I have had in a long time.
You all know I am using the boxes with the KOROs and the box is just big enough to fit the trap. I have been experimenting with the trigger to try and get them into the trap a little farther before they triggered it.
I walked up to a set today and there is a big beautiful civet sticking out apparently dead. It was very far into the trap and did not look like it had moved a bit after being struck. My usual routine is to flip the box over and undo the wire holding the trap in so I can pull trap and all out. I did this and wait a minute something is happening. I jumped back thinking the civet was still alive and fixing to give me both barrels but no. Definitely something moving around in there. Upon closer inspection he really was dead but there was a surprise farther into the trap.
Apparently a small civet went in and got past the trigger then the big guy came in and got caught blocking the door for the first one in so I had a live one in the box ahead of the dead one in the door.
Post by: JakeLand on January 10, 2020, 06:48:35 PM
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Post by: Axle on January 10, 2020, 07:53:32 PM
But I like it :tup: :tup: :tup:
Post by: Humptulips on January 11, 2020, 09:26:19 PM
Post by: flyfishWA on January 12, 2020, 09:51:56 AM
Post by: Humptulips on January 12, 2020, 10:56:55 AM
supposedly we have them in my area but I've never been able to find them :'( I really want to catch onelook for them in 2nd growth fir about the age they would pre-commercial thin. They like to follow small creeks too. Any mountain beaver colonies they will be around too.
Post by: DishBogget on January 13, 2020, 08:12:07 PM
One I caught today, maybe a little far back but other than spraying didn’t seem to be many signs of struggle. Totally unmodified trap in a box.
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Post by: Humptulips on January 13, 2020, 09:40:51 PM
Post by: lokidog on January 13, 2020, 10:09:32 PM
Post by: Humptulips on January 13, 2020, 11:46:01 PM
Could you do a similar setup for mink?
I think so. I have several sets out along streams hoping to get one. No luck yet, not a lot of mink up here.
It's all an experiment this year. I'd like to see someone post on mink good or bad.
Post by: lokidog on January 14, 2020, 11:52:52 AM
Could you do a similar setup for mink?
I think so. I have several sets out along streams hoping to get one. No luck yet, not a lot of mink up here.
It's all an experiment this year. I'd like to see someone post on mink good or bad.
So many mink out here, but I'm not around consistently enough these days to check traps regularly.
Post by: JakeLand on January 14, 2020, 11:58:32 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 14, 2020, 12:09:39 PM
The boxes I made for the koro will definitely work for mink! :tup:
Might have to try that next year. Killed two in my chicken coop this winter. Of course, now I have no more chickens....
Post by: lokidog on January 14, 2020, 12:12:42 PM
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