Post by: Snakeriver on February 01, 2020, 10:44:36 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 01, 2020, 12:26:15 PM
Look up Jay Scott and listen to his podcast. He interviews guides and breaks down all the units in the weeks leading up to the AZ draws.
Post by: cem3434 on February 01, 2020, 12:47:10 PM
Post by: Snakeriver on February 01, 2020, 06:25:10 PM
Post by: goldenhtr on February 01, 2020, 08:13:54 PM
Post by: blacktailhunter on February 03, 2020, 02:43:23 PM
Like stated above there is lots of information on all of the elk units on the internet. I would check out Travis McClendon's website(Arizona elk outfitters), he gives a pretty good breakdown on the units for the early/mid/late elk hunts to give you an idea. Then I would join a service like toprut to see who drew last year to get an idea what kind of points it takes to draw a top tier tag and what you are chasing.
I started applying 17yrs ago and I'm still chasing though getting a little closer. If I was to start over I would just put in for those late hunts.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 03, 2020, 06:29:05 PM
I started applying 17yrs ago and I'm still chasing though getting a little closer. If I was to start over I would just put in for those late hunts.
I'm in a similar boat, will have 21 points in the AZ draw this year. I'll wait to draw a rut tag, but then will start applying for the late rifle and muzzy hunts. With six points, I'd just start with the late hunts and hope to draw every five or six years.
Post by: Bean Counter on February 06, 2020, 03:17:42 AM
I left WA to move to AZ and haven't looked back. In a decade I've had two September archery tags, both of which I notched on +300" bulls, and I'd take that over 100 years of Washington state OTC tags. There's just nothing like passing on screaming bulls day after day on public land until you find a big boy you can get close to. The late hunts are a different experience.
Tip: For this year, look into the units around Flag. They got a ton of snow before the late hunts last year and a lot of the hunters got snowed out and couldn't hunt. Those units probably had high mature bull survival for that reason and would be worth considering for this years season.
Did I mention that you can carry a gun without a permission slip from the state here? 8)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 06, 2020, 05:00:46 AM
Post by: Snakeriver on February 06, 2020, 08:59:49 AM
Post by: 2MANY on February 06, 2020, 09:01:11 AM
Post by: gocougs on February 06, 2020, 01:37:38 PM
:yeah: With six points your wait wont be measured in years; it will be measured in decades. :yike:
I left WA to move to AZ and haven't looked back. In a decade I've had two September archery tags, both of which I notched on +300" bulls, and I'd take that over 100 years of Washington state OTC tags. There's just nothing like passing on screaming bulls day after day on public land until you find a big boy you can get close to. The late hunts are a different experience.
Tip: For this year, look into the units around Flag. They got a ton of snow before the late hunts last year and a lot of the hunters got snowed out and couldn't hunt. Those units probably had high mature bull survival for that reason and would be worth considering for this years season.
Did I mention that you can carry a gun without a permission slip from the state here? 8)
Bean Counter i tried to send you a pm but its full.
Post by: Bean Counter on February 09, 2020, 03:55:14 AM
:yeah: With six points your wait wont be measured in years; it will be measured in decades. :yike:
I left WA to move to AZ and haven't looked back. In a decade I've had two September archery tags, both of which I notched on +300" bulls, and I'd take that over 100 years of Washington state OTC tags. There's just nothing like passing on screaming bulls day after day on public land until you find a big boy you can get close to. The late hunts are a different experience.
Tip: For this year, look into the units around Flag. They got a ton of snow before the late hunts last year and a lot of the hunters got snowed out and couldn't hunt. Those units probably had high mature bull survival for that reason and would be worth considering for this years season.
Did I mention that you can carry a gun without a permission slip from the state here? 8)
Bean Counter i tried to send you a pm but its full.
try again
Post by: hunter-4-life on February 09, 2020, 04:57:02 AM
Post by: cem3434 on February 09, 2020, 08:44:10 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 10, 2020, 08:53:27 AM
So what advice do you have for someone who has zero points and is looking at applying for the first time this year?
You'll be in the random draw, obviously. They look at your first two choices. So swing for the fences on your first choice, and put down the easiest to draw tag you'd be happy with for your second. Lots of late rifle hunts with plenty of tags and relatively good draw odds that still have success rates in the 30-40% range.
Post by: 2MANY on February 10, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
While random odds are steep you just never know.
Sometimes dirt guys get lucky!!! :)
Post by: Bean Counter on February 10, 2020, 11:02:58 AM
So what advice do you have for someone who has zero points and is looking at applying for the first time this year?
your last three choices are essentially a 'second pass' option and you might as well only put in for cow elk units, if you're willing to pay for that and hunt it (I'm not, even as a resident).
I'd go with a late rifle or archery hunt if you're desperate for a bull tag this year, realize that with elevation it could be colder here in Arizona than on a late WA hunt.
Post by: Snakeriver on February 10, 2020, 07:34:27 PM
Post by: Alaskan on February 20, 2020, 06:48:42 AM
Post by: jae on February 28, 2020, 08:54:20 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 28, 2020, 09:27:01 AM
Post by: jae on February 28, 2020, 10:33:26 AM
Good luck!
Post by: dreamingbig on February 28, 2020, 10:53:25 AM
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Post by: Wanderer on February 28, 2020, 06:01:48 PM
Post by: Snakeriver on February 29, 2020, 01:01:29 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 29, 2020, 03:44:14 AM
Post by: MAVsled on February 29, 2020, 08:30:34 AM
Post by: Alaskan on February 29, 2020, 03:36:24 PM
Yahoo!
Post by: jae on March 02, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
Post by: gaddy on March 02, 2020, 03:19:05 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 05, 2020, 01:37:21 PM
My resident cousin just got hit, so either him or his wife. Both only applied for primo hunts, so should be something really good.
Just found out my cousin's tag is the 23N September archery hunt. I'm going for sure, I need to see that in person!
Post by: lamrith on March 05, 2020, 02:00:27 PM
Know nothing about Arizona. What area is around Sho Low ?Units 3a,3b,3c, 4a, 4b, and bunch of indian reservation land on south side.
Post by: ridgefire on March 05, 2020, 05:00:53 PM