Post by: HUNT on February 20, 2020, 02:07:49 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-02/wsr_20-04-091.pdf
Post by: Woodchuck on February 20, 2020, 02:10:49 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Stein on February 20, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
Oh well, hopefully Kelly can share a few recipes again in the rules book, that is super helpful and really takes the sting out of it.
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 20, 2020, 04:36:05 PM
Post by: BA Mongor on February 20, 2020, 06:38:52 PM
Post by: HUNT on February 20, 2020, 07:36:32 PM
Pretty sad when my odds of drawing a non resident new mexico elk tag is higher than my odds of drawing a eastside Washington tag.
And it’s not even close. Very sad.
Post by: 444Marlin on February 23, 2020, 02:24:24 PM
I've stopped putting in for the quality tags.
Post by: dvolmer on February 23, 2020, 08:17:11 PM
Pretty sad when my odds of drawing a non resident new mexico elk tag is higher than my odds of drawing a eastside Washington tag.
Not only that, but once you do draw and you hunt your butt off and find the herd has been decimated. In a matter of just the last two or so years the East side elk have been reduced by more than half and its only going to get worse. Hardly any to no calf survival for reasons we can all argue about for days. We had 5 Quality bull tags in 2006 in Dayton and then again I drew the tag this last year with 13 points. The difference between the elk numbers of 2006 and 2019 were night and day. Saw 40-50 cows after hunting a week and a half of hitting it hard hunting the entire unit and not one had a calf with it. Big bulls will just about be totally gone in the Dayton area in 2-6 years from now. Spike hunting will be awful this next year up there with no calf survival last year.
Post by: Bango skank on February 23, 2020, 08:18:42 PM
Pretty sad when my odds of drawing a non resident new mexico elk tag is higher than my odds of drawing a eastside Washington tag.
Not only that, but once you do draw and you hunt your butt off and find the herd has been decimated. In a matter of just the last two or so years the East side elk have been reduced by more than half and its only going to get worse. Hardly any to no calf survival for reasons we can all argue about for days. We had 5 Quality bull tags in 2006 in Dayton and then again I drew the tag this last year with 13 points. The difference between the elk numbers of 2006 and 2019 were night and day. Saw 40-50 cows after hunting a week and a half of hitting it hard hunting the entire unit and not one had a calf with it. Big bulls will just about be totally gone in the Dayton area in 2-6 years from now. Spike hunting will be awful this next year up there with no calf survival last year.
Theres no real arguing about the calf survival problem. Pretty obvious what that is.
Post by: huntnnw on February 23, 2020, 10:20:41 PM
Post by: Onewhohikes on February 24, 2020, 06:24:19 AM
Post by: dreamingbig on February 27, 2020, 07:25:28 PM
Pretty sad when my odds of drawing a non resident new mexico elk tag is higher than my odds of drawing a eastside Washington tag.Better odds in Az too with 1 point!
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Post by: jae on March 01, 2020, 11:53:48 AM
Post by: Hot Lunch on March 05, 2020, 12:41:01 PM
Post by: dvolmer on March 05, 2020, 06:48:36 PM
Back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's you could barely see it all coming. The snowball starts out small but when it gets going it grows at a rapid speed! Just look at the last 10 years! Actually look at the last 5 years!!! BLUE MOUNTAIN ELK HERD CUT IN HALF IN JUST 2 YEARS PEOPLE!!!! NOT A CALF TO BE SEEN!!!! Just wait for CWD to finish it all off! It will be here shortly!
When its all over and done the Lib's will tell us all it is because of Global Warming and Climate Change and tell us its our fault! Us evil sportsmen are to blame! ;)
Post by: hiway_99 on March 05, 2020, 07:02:40 PM
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Post by: trophyhunt on March 05, 2020, 07:22:19 PM
Unable to bait bears, unable to use hounds hunting cats, uncontrolled trophy and meat hunting by natives, poor management by WDFW, and then introduction of wolves that are twice the size of the old native wolves and letting their packs grow to out of control sizes and numbers. This is an equation for disaster for sure! Sad part is that we are nowhere near as bad as it is going to get here in Washington. It is going to continue to get much worse. Top it all off with a liberal majority who could care less about the sportsman/outdoors-man and will completely shut out any kind of real science, game management, and common sense. Not good guys and gals! Not good at all.This covers it, you can’t argue this for one second, if you think you can, your a liberal. Haven’t read something that makes more sense than this in a very long time. We all should copy and paste this and Email it to the director of fish and game. I am!
Back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's you could barely see it all coming. The snowball starts out small but when it gets going it grows at a rapid speed! Just look at the last 10 years! Actually look at the last 5 years!!! BLUE MOUNTAIN ELK HERD CUT IN HALF IN JUST 2 YEARS PEOPLE!!!! NOT A CALF TO BE SEEN!!!! Just wait for CWD to finish it all off! It will be here shortly!
When its all over and done the Lib's will tell us all it is because of Global Warming and Climate Change and tell us its our fault! Us evil sportsmen are to blame! ;)
Post by: trophyhunt on March 05, 2020, 07:33:13 PM
Post by: jstone on March 05, 2020, 07:33:45 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on March 05, 2020, 08:39:42 PM
Email sent to the director, will send to all commissioners later, c’mon guys. Here’s the directors emailI am not sure he cares what the hunters think. He listens to the fish crowd and the wolf lovers.
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Post by: Onewhohikes on March 06, 2020, 05:13:39 AM
Post by: huntnnw on March 06, 2020, 05:24:05 AM
Email sent to the director, will send to all commissioners later, c’mon guys. Here’s the directors emailI am not sure he cares what the hunters think. He listens to the fish crowd and the wolf lovers.
The fish crowd ? :chuckle: Hope you mean the commercial fish crowd. They have ran the salmon and steelhead into the ground much like the deer, elk, moose
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Post by: Bango skank on March 06, 2020, 05:28:14 AM
Email sent to the director, will send to all commissioners later, c’mon guys. Here’s the directors emailI am not sure he cares what the hunters think. He listens to the fish crowd and the wolf lovers.
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I really dont think youre giving him a fair shake. Hes taken stances on things supporting us far beyond what any recent director has. He can only push so hard before inslee gets rid of him, and i think hes putting his own ass at risk walking that tightrope. If he pushes too far, inslee will have him replaced with somebody who will toe the line, and we will be a lot worse off thsn we are now.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on March 06, 2020, 05:31:20 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 06, 2020, 06:15:44 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 06, 2020, 06:44:00 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 06, 2020, 06:57:21 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 06, 2020, 07:04:35 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 06, 2020, 07:35:37 AM
Never thought about vinegar and beers.......you might be onto something :chuckle:autocorrect strikes again :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 06, 2020, 07:40:56 AM
Didn't know libs was an insult, but as far as I'm concerned, they are insulting as hell trying to take away our freedoms so openly. No disrespect to you at all Karl.if course it's an insult. Do you see anyone using "libs" in a positive manner? No. No you don't. Reverse the rolls Jerry. Put yourself in a place where you would be getting emails arguing against your line of thinking. If an email comes right out of the gate with "I can't believe you morons are trying to do xyz". You are gonna delete the hell out of it right out of the gate and be on the offensive from the first sentence. Articulately argued topics backed up with factual information is the the only thing that will change a person's mind :twocents:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 06, 2020, 07:56:04 AM
I re-read the text I sent, I don't see anything insulting, Morons wasn't used at all? I hear what you're saying but I don't see it in this text. I'm sure I'll make up for it though!! :chuckle:Didn't know libs was an insult, but as far as I'm concerned, they are insulting as hell trying to take away our freedoms so openly. No disrespect to you at all Karl.if course it's an insult. Do you see anyone using "libs" in a positive manner? No. No you don't. Reverse the rolls Jerry. Put yourself in a place where you would be getting emails arguing against your line of thinking. If an email comes right out of the gate with "I can't believe you morons are trying to do xyz". You are gonna delete the hell out of it right out of the gate and be on the offensive from the first sentence. Articulately argued topics backed up with factual information is the the only thing that will change a person's mind :twocents:
Post by: hughjorgan on March 06, 2020, 10:14:46 AM
Unable to bait bears, unable to use hounds hunting cats, uncontrolled trophy and meat hunting by natives, poor management by WDFW, and then introduction of wolves that are twice the size of the old native wolves and letting their packs grow to out of control sizes and numbers. This is an equation for disaster for sure! Sad part is that we are nowhere near as bad as it is going to get here in Washington. It is going to continue to get much worse. Top it all off with a liberal majority who could care less about the sportsman/outdoors-man and will completely shut out any kind of real science, game management, and common sense. Not good guys and gals! Not good at all.This covers it, you can’t argue this for one second, if you think you can, your a liberal. Haven’t read something that makes more sense than this in a very long time. We all should copy and paste this and Email it to the director of fish and game. I am!
Back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's you could barely see it all coming. The snowball starts out small but when it gets going it grows at a rapid speed! Just look at the last 10 years! Actually look at the last 5 years!!! BLUE MOUNTAIN ELK HERD CUT IN HALF IN JUST 2 YEARS PEOPLE!!!! NOT A CALF TO BE SEEN!!!! Just wait for CWD to finish it all off! It will be here shortly!
When its all over and done the Lib's will tell us all it is because of Global Warming and Climate Change and tell us its our fault! Us evil sportsmen are to blame! ;)
Man it’s not cwd that will finish it, it’s hoof rot disease and Monsanto evil chemicals! Look on the bright side we’re going to have some of the greatest quality predator tags west of the Mississippi! Wolves, cougars, bears oh my!
Post by: meatwhack on March 06, 2020, 10:58:46 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 06, 2020, 01:02:19 PM
People are insulted by everything now days. Flying an American flag on your porch insults half these people.:yeah:
Post by: rosscrazyelk on March 07, 2020, 06:49:00 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2020, 07:29:12 AM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on March 07, 2020, 07:54:31 AM
Pat Fowler built the blues heard and it's been downhill since he retired.
Post by: Tbar on March 07, 2020, 08:02:24 AM
I would disagree that Wik built the blues herd.:yeah:
Pat Fowler built the blues heard and it's been downhill since he retired.
Pat Fowler built the composition of the herd. It was pretty large in numbers even when he arrived. He spent 36 years working on herd health and age structures. I would still guess the herd numbers were probably smaller at the end of his career than the beginning.
Post by: Tbar on March 07, 2020, 08:13:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2020, 08:13:53 AM