Post by: JH on February 21, 2020, 11:58:56 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on February 21, 2020, 12:04:21 PM
Post by: Mudman on February 21, 2020, 12:11:34 PM
Post by: elksnout on February 21, 2020, 07:55:13 PM
Elksnout
Post by: jackelope on February 21, 2020, 09:02:15 PM
What does "deleting" mean? I see this referenced often.
Elksnout
Removing emissions stuff. Egr system, DPF, etc.
Post by: jackelope on February 21, 2020, 09:03:24 PM
Most shops won't touch it because it is a federally mandated emissions system.
This. It’s illegal to tamper with so most places won’t risk their livelihoods.
Post by: Mudman on February 21, 2020, 10:07:23 PM
Post by: Special T on February 22, 2020, 03:06:54 AM
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Post by: Fastass350 on February 22, 2020, 06:57:31 AM
Post by: follow maggie on February 22, 2020, 07:49:25 AM
Illegal now, yes. What blows my mind is people will pay 80,000 for these trucks but wont spend 2500$ on delete and tuning. Yet that deleted truck is the one getting 12-17mpg and blowing by ya on the pass with heavy loads?? Hmm. I know I will just keep on trucking Vantage on cruise at 68mph loaded. 500hp is kinda fun as well. :twocents: Pyrometer required!!
It’s always been illegal, the epa is just recently stepping up enforcement. They’ve been putting the screws on h manufacturers. Pretty soon only epa compliant tunes will be available.
Post by: Mudman on February 22, 2020, 08:38:08 AM
Post by: Encore 280 on February 22, 2020, 08:46:22 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 22, 2020, 08:50:27 AM
Illegal now, yes. What blows my mind is people will pay 80,000 for these trucks but wont spend 2500$ on delete and tuning. Yet that deleted truck is the one getting 12-17mpg and blowing by ya on the pass with heavy loads?? Hmm. I know I will just keep on trucking Vantage on cruise at 68mph loaded. 500hp is kinda fun as well. :twocents: Pyrometer required!!
Mostly because 90% of them people who have those trucks dont use them to their full potential and can get away with half tons, and maybe because you can do the same with a stock truck. 475hp and 1050lbs-ft of torque from a powerstroke without having to spend $2500 to mess with it and hope it works. Sometimes I think your fears about current diesels are stuck in the Cummins 2007.5 era. They’re not issues anymore. I worked for Dodge then. I’m aware of the issues. I’m aware there’s no convincing you of that, but if you’re using a truck like you say you do, you won’t have problems with them anymore. The problems stem from letting them idle too much and not using/working them. I know I won’t change your mind and I’m good with that.
Post by: Mudman on February 22, 2020, 09:04:24 AM
Post by: Mudman on February 22, 2020, 09:06:14 AM
Not trying to start anything negative here but I don't understand that if Cumins are the cat's meow then why do they all need the tuners and add ons? :dunno:They don't but if ya do it doesn't blow up like Fords did! Cummins has 33% less parts to break and is same design/tech as the million mile big rigs use. So that's about it in nutshell.
Post by: jackelope on February 22, 2020, 09:13:16 AM
:yeah: You are correct. :chuckle: They are much much better now. Agreed. The price is the killer! 475/1000 are more than anyone will likely ever need. Actually I do not think its safe for these new trucks to tow 35000lbs? I am stuck at 2007.5, the year it all changed! I am liking the new 7.3 gasser and that truck would probably do what I need quite well, except for mpg maybe! 400hp and 800tq is all I need honestly. I am old school as well so biased in the simplicity of things and in the prospect of doing the work at home...
Right on. The MPG will be a huge downside to the 7.3. Still haven’t seen one in person. Weird.
Post by: Pnwrider on February 22, 2020, 09:20:54 AM
Post by: Mudman on February 22, 2020, 10:07:33 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 22, 2020, 10:30:12 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 22, 2020, 10:31:15 AM
Post by: bear on February 23, 2020, 04:55:25 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 23, 2020, 09:59:39 AM
Keep in mind with deleting it’ll hurt your trade in value. Private sale may not be an issue though. Dealerships can’t sell a rig that’s been deleted. They have to put it all back together first. They’ll take that cost off of your trade in
This is truth.
Post by: KFhunter on February 23, 2020, 11:28:10 AM
Post by: JH on February 25, 2020, 08:41:38 AM
I am throwing an error code currently which is for the Diesel Exhaust Fluid Heater control. I figure if I have to put money into something I might as well open it up. I'm not overly concerned about the resale value of the truck. I own it and plan on keeping it until it dies. What are the other negatives of deleting it?
I am located in Bothell.
Post by: baker5150 on February 25, 2020, 09:10:21 AM
I'm not sure it holds true with the powerstroke, but deleting will cause engine to be very slow to warm up on the cummins, annoyingly slow.
Turn your exhaust brake on or enable High idle (same thing in a factory EB truck)
Post by: Snakeriver on February 25, 2020, 11:51:09 AM
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2020, 12:17:24 PM
Delete it and dont look back. I bought my powerstroke from a dealer in Oregon. It was already deleted.
Illegal for them to sell.
:dunno:
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2020, 12:22:37 PM
I guess I really hadn't consider the negatives of deleting it as everyone always suggests to do it.
I am throwing an error code currently which is for the Diesel Exhaust Fluid Heater control. I figure if I have to put money into something I might as well open it up. I'm not overly concerned about the resale value of the truck. I own it and plan on keeping it until it dies. What are the other negatives of deleting it?
I am located in Bothell.
@JH
How many miles on your truck?
TO: All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Dealers
SUBJECT: Customer Satisfaction Program 18M01
Certain 2011-2012 Model Year F-250-F-550 and 2013-2015 F-350-F-550 equipped
with a 6.7L Diesel Engine
Reductant Heater and Sender Assembly Repair
PROGRAM TERMS
This program extends the warranty coverage of the reductant heater and sender assembly to 11
years of service or 120,000 miles from the warranty start date of the vehicle, whichever occurs first. If
a vehicle has already exceeded either the time or mileage limits, this extended warranty coverage will
last through December 31, 2018. Coverage is automatically transferred to subsequent owners.
NOTE: This program does not apply to vehicles that qualify for repairs under the New Vehicle Limited
Warranty. Repairs for vehicles covered by New Vehicle Limited Warranty should be claimed using
existing published labor operation codes.
Post by: 2MANY on February 25, 2020, 12:44:17 PM
The new 6.7L are fine without or I've grown old.
Get it done and don't look back.
Post by: Woodchuck on February 25, 2020, 12:51:41 PM
Post by: syoungs on February 25, 2020, 12:54:07 PM
Or he needs to have a serious talk with whatever mechanic did it... lol
Post by: gutsnthegrass on February 25, 2020, 01:00:16 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2020, 01:03:18 PM
I was seeing the "cleaning exhaust filter" message come on way too often in my 2012 6.7. It seemed like it would happen about every 100-150 miles (new it did it about every 300 miles). My thoughts were that the DPF was getting plugged. My mileage was in the toilet because of this. I put the plates over the egr cooler, went with 4" downpipe back exhaust and tuned with semi custom tunes. I don't have to add DEF anymore and my mileage went from 14-15 to 18-20 mpg. I didn't do this for the power gains, although they are nice. I did this around 75,000 miles and have 90,000 on it now. I was extremely nervous at first, but I'm glad I did it. I did everything myself in my driveway in about 4-5 hours.
How often did your truck get out on the highway for a good 20 or so mile run?
Post by: syoungs on February 25, 2020, 01:04:03 PM
I mean really, stock power has never left me wanting, I am just tired of the regen thing, and tired of fighting a DEF tank that doesn't take fluid worth a darn.
Post by: 2MANY on February 25, 2020, 01:19:11 PM
I would be he meant he tuned is 02 and 03.
Or he needs to have a serious talk with whatever mechanic did it... lol
Damn woodchucks.........................Quit chucking my wood!!!!
I meant to say fed it more air, let it breath, and scrambled it's brain into thinking it was a Shelby that could tow.
Post by: Woodchuck on February 25, 2020, 01:21:00 PM
:chuckle:I would be he meant he tuned is 02 and 03.
Or he needs to have a serious talk with whatever mechanic did it... lol
Damn woodchucks.........................Quit chucking my wood!!!!
I meant to say fed it more air, let it breath, and scrambled it's brain into thinking it was a Shelby that could tow.
Post by: JH on February 25, 2020, 01:30:46 PM
Post by: Mudman on February 25, 2020, 02:39:35 PM
I was seeing the "cleaning exhaust filter" message come on way too often in my 2012 6.7. It seemed like it would happen about every 100-150 miles (new it did it about every 300 miles). My thoughts were that the DPF was getting plugged. My mileage was in the toilet because of this. I put the plates over the egr cooler, went with 4" downpipe back exhaust and tuned with semi custom tunes. I don't have to add DEF anymore and my mileage went from 14-15 to 18-20 mpg. I didn't do this for the power gains, although they are nice. I did this around 75,000 miles and have 90,000 on it now. I was extremely nervous at first, but I'm glad I did it. I did everything myself in my driveway in about 4-5 hours.:tup: Smart man.
Post by: Mudman on February 25, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
I would be he meant he tuned is 02 and 03.An exhaust bp valve can be deleted. Exhaust can be freed up. I had 2001 f350 7.3. Tuned it with full free turbo back exhaust. Was a great engine but ran out of fuel injector uumph after about 425hp aprox. Trans are total garbage, get a manual...
Or he needs to have a serious talk with whatever mechanic did it... lol
Post by: jackelope on February 25, 2020, 05:01:01 PM
@jackelope it has 104k. Did that recall expire in 12/18 though? First I have seen of that. Would be nice if it could be a warranty fix.
You should still be covered. Bring it to me if you want, I'll get it taken care of.
@JH
That 12/18 part just means if you were over the 120k mark or the time when that recall was released, it would be covered till 12/18.
Post by: gutsnthegrass on February 26, 2020, 07:26:48 AM
I was seeing the "cleaning exhaust filter" message come on way too often in my 2012 6.7. It seemed like it would happen about every 100-150 miles (new it did it about every 300 miles). My thoughts were that the DPF was getting plugged. My mileage was in the toilet because of this. I put the plates over the egr cooler, went with 4" downpipe back exhaust and tuned with semi custom tunes. I don't have to add DEF anymore and my mileage went from 14-15 to 18-20 mpg. I didn't do this for the power gains, although they are nice. I did this around 75,000 miles and have 90,000 on it now. I was extremely nervous at first, but I'm glad I did it. I did everything myself in my driveway in about 4-5 hours.
How often did your truck get out on the highway for a good 20 or so mile run?
I had a good mixture of town and hiway/freeway driving. I would see the cleaning exhaust filter message come on 3 times on our trips to our ranch in Idaho (thats 3 times one way, so 6 times round trip) its about 350 miles one way.