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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 01:43:39 PM

Title: blue bullets issues
Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 01:43:39 PM: i dad was told to try blue bullets reloaded hotter then expected and didnt aeem shooting to well any experience this was 9mm
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 03:39:02 PM: I have shot thousands of blue bullets, never had an issue. How many grains of what powder are you running? What grain bullet?
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Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 03:53:36 PM: 3.3 tite group 147 grain bullet
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 03:59:32 PM: And you feel this load is to hot correct? Just trying to clarify your question.
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 04:02:43 PM: Ok my manual states that 2.8 gr is max for that powder and bullet, so yes it probably is running a wee hot.
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Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 04:03:56 PM: book said 850 chrono said 950 maybe chrono is off
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Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 04:19:27 PM: I am trying to post the data but the phone isn't having any of it
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Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 04:26:49 PM: i got numbers off the hogdenjs site
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 04:40:14 PM: Hodgons data is for a jacketed bullet, were the Lyman data is for cast bullets. Still trying to post the data, didn't work from the phone or the PC, must be something hay wire with hunt was.
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 04:47:27 PM: yea for regular bullet
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Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 05:32:22 PM: Try again
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Post by: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 05:39:07 PM: The blue bullet, is not a jacketed bullet. It would be more accurate, to describe it as a coated cast bullet. Try the Lyman data.
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Post by: wheels on February 29, 2020, 11:18:12 PM: thanks
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Post by: Yondering on March 02, 2020, 02:14:54 PM: Quote from: Hilltop123 on February 29, 2020, 05:39:07 PM
The blue bullet, is not a jacketed bullet. It would be more accurate, to describe it as a coated cast bullet. Try the Lyman data.

This. Do not interchange jacketed bullet data and cast bullet data.

Also - TiteGroup is a very sensitive powder to over-charges, and also is not a very good choice for coated bullets because it burns pretty hot. On top of that, it can be difficult to detect over-charges and even double charges with that powder.

A different powder would help you a lot. Make your choice based on the load data and what you want to do with the bullet, but something like Universal would be a much better choice.

My sources for reference - I have been casting my own bullets for 20+ years, and was one of the first to pioneer coated bullets. I also load and shoot 1,000 rounds of 9mm every month, almost all of them cast & coated bullets. I've learned a few things in doing this stuff, and TiteGroup is a powder I suggest you avoid for this use.
Title: Re: blue bullets issues
Post by: jasnt on March 02, 2020, 04:07:19 PM: :yeah:

Treat them like cast cause they are. Cowboy loads work great with coated bullets