Post by: SpicyTacos on March 07, 2020, 11:27:57 AM
I currently have a CVA Optima and it performs well for my needs. I have had issues in wet weather hunting elk on the coast other than that it shoots as well as I need it to with iron sights.
My questions is it worth it to upgrade to say a more closed system like a rem 700 muzzy or similar?(Correct me if I am using poor language to describe) I only hunt Wa state so I doubt I will need to shoot out pass 100yds (with practice possible more)
I could keep my CVA and save money to be in out in the mountains longer. But I am willing to spend the money on new muzzy if I think there is an advantage of having less possible problems with ignition. Plus the idea of scoping a better performing muzzy for out of state sounds good.
The bolt action looks nice for reloading on the rem and cva. Plus buying new toys is always a joy.
Please let me know. What you think.
Post by: KFhunter on March 07, 2020, 11:31:19 AM
Howdy,
I currently have a CVA Optima and it performs well for my needs. I have had issues in wet weather hunting elk on the coast other than that it shoots as well as I need it to with iron sights.
My questions is it worth it to upgrade to say a more closed system like a rem 700 muzzy or similar?(Correct me if I am using poor language to describe) I only hunt Wa state so I doubt I will need to shoot out pass 100yds (with practice possible more)
I could keep my CVA and save money to be in out in the mountains longer. But I am willing to spend the money on new muzzy if I think there is an advantage of having less possible problems with ignition. Plus the idea of scoping a better performing muzzy for out of state sounds good.
The bolt action looks nice for reloading on the rem and cva. Plus buying new toys is always a joy.
Please let me know. What you think.
"save money to be in out in the mountains longer"
always good advice :tup: keep eye on used too in classifieds.
Post by: SpicyTacos on March 07, 2020, 11:37:46 AM
I would rather be in the mountains longer. I have personally never harvested an animal over 150yds.
I am thinking a nice globe with a new reticle to go with my peep sight would be more than enough for my needs.
I really want to be out in the woods for a couple of weeks this year.
Post by: Stein on March 07, 2020, 12:14:32 PM
If it were me, if I had a relatively reliable smoke pole, I wouldn't upgrade if it meant spending hunting funds for gas or days in the field.
Ignition problems can potentially be fixed with a new gun or working on the old one.
Post by: lamrith on March 07, 2020, 12:20:08 PM
Howdy,Are you running the 209 primers now that they are allowed? That may help with your wet weather issues a bit. If the gun is shooting well for you, I would stick with it as is and look at upgrading to 209's if you have not already.
I currently have a CVA Optima and it performs well for my needs. I have had issues in wet weather hunting elk on the coast other than that it shoots as well as I need it to with iron sights.
My questions is it worth it to upgrade to say a more closed system like a rem 700 muzzy or similar?(Correct me if I am using poor language to describe) I only hunt Wa state so I doubt I will need to shoot out pass 100yds (with practice possible more)
I could keep my CVA and save money to be in out in the mountains longer. But I am willing to spend the money on new muzzy if I think there is an advantage of having less possible problems with ignition. Plus the idea of scoping a better performing muzzy for out of state sounds good.
The bolt action looks nice for reloading on the rem and cva. Plus buying new toys is always a joy.
Please let me know. What you think.
BUT, if you want a new boomstick, I cannot fault you and wholly endorse expanding your collection.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2020, 12:23:27 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2020, 12:24:22 PM
Post by: SpicyTacos on March 07, 2020, 05:50:26 PM
209 primer, closed breech and new globe front sight.
Thanks for the help fellas.
Post by: KFhunter on March 07, 2020, 06:35:29 PM
I just sold my very reliable t/c xr 50 cal for a new cva Optima, 209 primer and closed breech. It is cheap at Muzzleloaders.com.
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html
I just got a CVA Optima V2 Northwest
I might hunt ML Idaho so I went that route, but I ordered the conversion kit for 209 primers for WA.
Very easy change out. I'll change it out soon as I get it.
best of both worlds.
I would have just gotten the Optima V2 209, but I couldn't see where I could convert the 209 back to the northwest :dunno:
Post by: MountainDevil54 on March 08, 2020, 11:49:34 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 08, 2020, 12:12:48 PM
Sounds more like a user issue than the guns fault.
Care to share any advice?
Post by: SpicyTacos on March 08, 2020, 02:15:05 PM
Sounds more like a user issue than the guns fault.
CVA is a great weapon.
The gun failed to fire after a torrential downpour of rain. I think the problem was navigating through reprod, old growth and windfall that was soaked with water. We were into a herd of elk. So it was exciting and I was trudging through the woods carelessly.
No big deal. I am in no way blaming this on the weapon. I do know that I will be upgrading to a closed breech, new sight and 209 primers.
Thanks for all the input
Post by: KFhunter on March 08, 2020, 02:21:51 PM
Post by: brackens on April 18, 2020, 01:29:39 PM
I am looking at the Optima
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html (https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html)
But this one, that was posted earlier has a breach that breaks. If I understand this is not legal. I know, I can search but many of the old posts are pre new rules here in Washington. Sorry to annoy those of you that understand all the terms and legality.
Post by: Bob33 on April 18, 2020, 01:55:01 PM
I will be hunting elk muzzie for the first time and have never fired a muzzle loader. I read through the regs and I understand that it needs to be a closed breach.Where did you read it must have a closed breech?
I am looking at the Optima
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html (https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html)
But this one, that was posted earlier has a breach that breaks. If I understand this is not legal. I know, I can search but many of the old posts are pre new rules here in Washington. Sorry to annoy those of you that understand all the terms and legality.
Post by: KFhunter on April 18, 2020, 02:00:14 PM
I will be hunting elk muzzie for the first time and have never fired a muzzle loader. I read through the regs and I understand that it needs to be a closed breach.Where did you read it must have a closed breech?
I am looking at the Optima
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html (https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html)
But this one, that was posted earlier has a breach that breaks. If I understand this is not legal. I know, I can search but many of the old posts are pre new rules here in Washington. Sorry to annoy those of you that understand all the terms and legality.
:yeah: please clarify what state you plan to hunt. Washington has relaxed their restrictions on muzzle loaders.
The one you have linked here is legal in WA.
Post by: curlewkiller on April 18, 2020, 05:32:33 PM
I will be hunting elk muzzie for the first time and have never fired a muzzle loader. I read through the regs and I understand that it needs to be a closed breach.Where did you read it must have a closed breech?
I am looking at the Optima
https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html (https://www.muzzle-loaders.com/rifles/cva-optimatm-v2-pr2020s.html)
But this one, that was posted earlier has a breach that breaks. If I understand this is not legal. I know, I can search but many of the old posts are pre new rules here in Washington. Sorry to annoy those of you that understand all the terms and legality.
:yeah: please clarify what state you plan to hunt. Washington has relaxed their restrictions on muzzle loaders.
The one you have linked here is legal in WA.
Sorry, I thought I read that but I was mistaken. I think I am going to buy that Optima then. I am going to hunt elk during muzzie and buy the multi-season deer tag and hunt muzzie deer as well. Thanks.
Post by: flyfishWA on April 18, 2020, 06:35:30 PM