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Title: CWD
Post by: Bone collector 13 on March 12, 2020, 05:30:07 AM
Did anyone listen to the joe Rogan podcast with Doug Duran about CWD? How long until we have CWD in Washington?
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Onewhohikes on March 12, 2020, 05:33:01 AM
No was it a good listen? Does it effect wolves?
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2020, 07:26:30 AM
I’ve been using deer pee lure for blacktail hunting with a lot of success for several years. I am probably going to stop using urine lure after learning it could possibly contribute to the spread of CWD. Small sacrifice on my end to help slow the potential spread.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Stein on March 12, 2020, 08:10:10 AM
It's only a matter of time until it is in WA.  It will spread naturally and through people that don't know the transport laws or don't care.  The only way to stop it is to cull the deer in a buffer zone as the prions will last forever and can't be killed because they aren't alive to begin with.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 12, 2020, 08:19:31 AM
@Sundance , there are some pretty good synthetics out there. I dont know about their effectiveness for blacktail but for whitetail I use almost exclusively synthetic scents.

I imagine there is a lot of wanton disregard and ignorance for the CWD inspired transport laws. For CWD to win, it only has to get in the population once.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: kselkhunter on March 12, 2020, 08:28:27 AM
I’ve been using deer pee lure for blacktail hunting with a lot of success for several years. I am probably going to stop using urine lure after learning it could possibly contribute to the spread of CWD. Small sacrifice on my end to help slow the potential spread.

Oregon made natural pee lure illegal this year.   So I tossed my supply since I spend so much time hunting there also.   
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: kselkhunter on March 12, 2020, 08:29:08 AM
@Sundance , there are some pretty good synthetics out there. I dont know about their effectiveness for blacktail but for whitetail I use almost exclusively synthetic scents.

I imagine there is a lot of wanton disregard and ignorance for the CWD inspired transport laws. For CWD to win, it only has to get in the population once.

Can you post some suggestions on synthetics brands?   
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Sundance on March 12, 2020, 10:28:31 AM
@Sundance , there are some pretty good synthetics out there. I dont know about their effectiveness for blacktail but for whitetail I use almost exclusively synthetic scents.

I imagine there is a lot of wanton disregard and ignorance for the CWD inspired transport laws. For CWD to win, it only has to get in the population once.

I will have to look into it. I was using Tinks hotshot blacktail doe in heat which I believe they discontinued anyway. Stuff was amazing but if there is a good synthetic out there I'm willing to give it a try.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: buckfvr on March 12, 2020, 10:43:32 AM
GOOGLE

https://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/content/articles/deer-news/natural-vs-synthetic-lures-the-real-dope-on-whitetail-scents
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: lokidog on March 12, 2020, 11:15:53 AM
Though it is a good idea to help keep it from spreading, it has not been the doom and gloom of wiping out entire herds in the Midwest like it was predicted to be. I'm not sure of its effect on Blacktails though.

My parents lived next to a CWD eradication zone in WI and there are still lots of deer twenty years later.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: James on March 12, 2020, 11:22:39 AM
Though it is a good idea to help keep it from spreading, it has not been the doom and gloom of wiping out entire herds in the Midwest like it was predicted to be. I'm not sure of its effect on Blacktails though.

My parents lived next to a CWD eradication zone in WI and there are still lots of deer twenty years later.

I am much more worried about the potential jump to humans than the impacts to deer herds, but of course neither are good.

The more deer that have it and the more interactions with humans just increases the probability of a mad deer disease event.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Stein on March 12, 2020, 12:54:17 PM
Though it is a good idea to help keep it from spreading, it has not been the doom and gloom of wiping out entire herds in the Midwest like it was predicted to be. I'm not sure of its effect on Blacktails though.

My parents lived next to a CWD eradication zone in WI and there are still lots of deer twenty years later.

I am much more worried about the potential jump to humans than the impacts to deer herds, but of course neither are good.

The more deer that have it and the more interactions with humans just increases the probability of a mad deer disease event.

Yeah, the disease experts have gradually changed from "there is no indication of risk to humans" to "other similar diseases have made the jump to humans" and now most suggest not eating CWD meat.

In my mind, safety for people is clear #1, followed by not being able to eat the deer I kill.  I now test 100% and won't eat anything that tests positive or inconclusive.  That's pretty much the equivalent of not being able to hunt at all if I can't eat it.
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: bornhunter on March 12, 2020, 01:31:45 PM
And I aint eatin no elk with hoof rot neither!
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: Goshawk on May 14, 2020, 09:02:04 PM
Though it is a good idea to help keep it from spreading, it has not been the doom and gloom of wiping out entire herds in the Midwest like it was predicted to be. I'm not sure of its effect on Blacktails though.

My parents lived next to a CWD eradication zone in WI and there are still lots of deer twenty years later.

I think the real issue is can it jump to the human population by consumption, and if so how long. It's very close to "Mad Cow".  Remember that A human version of mad cow disease called variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) and is believed to be caused by eating beef products contaminated with central nervous system tissue, such as brain and spinal cord, from cattle infected with mad cow disease.  We're all careful about cutting out meat, but what about those spin or head shots? Does the gray matter contaminate the meat? 
Title: Re: CWD
Post by: dvolmer on May 14, 2020, 11:38:54 PM
And I aint eatin no elk with hoof rot neither!

Ya, and I wouldn't date a girl with athlete's feet either!!!! Ha Ha!!!

(bornhunter, I am not trying to disagree or slam on you for your ideas.  You are probably right.  I just thought it was funny!)
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