Post by: b23 on March 22, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
Based on the little research I've done, at this point, I'm probably leaning toward the kit from Apex, but if there is a better one, I'm open to anything.
Post by: huntandjeep on March 22, 2020, 06:07:36 PM
Like many of you, I'm bored and looking for a mini project and since I've been wanting to upgrade/replace the trigger in my Gen4 G17 I figured no better time than the present, BUT, I'm far from a Glock expert and there are a variety of different trigger kits available so who's have you all used and or which one/s do you think are better than another???Brother has the Apex in his 19x and I have the Zev Pro in my 19 ( Both Flat Faces ) . Both break right @ 4lbs on my trigger scale , shooting them side by side they are the same . Before I put the Zev in mine I polished all the stock parts and put in a Ghost Connector. Made a big difference over stock ( cheaper too ) . Never did put the scale to it though as I knew I was going with the Zev Flat faced . I put the Ghost Connector in my brother's 17 with no other mods and it dropped the pull enough to notice .
Based on the little research I've done, at this point, I'm probably leaning toward the kit from Apex, but if there is a better one, I'm open to anything.
Post by: b23 on March 23, 2020, 10:37:03 AM
These aftermarket triggers like the Apex and Zev eliminate quite a bit of that long pull, yes??
Post by: huntandjeep on March 23, 2020, 11:13:52 AM
Post by: b23 on March 23, 2020, 01:40:01 PM
Yes they eliminate virtually all of that . My Zev is alot crisper and shorter , it also resets faster then the stock one .
That's what I'm looking for, thank you. :tup:
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on March 23, 2020, 03:28:57 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on March 23, 2020, 04:19:22 PM
I just installed an Overwatch trigger in my not a Glock 17. Took to the range on Saturday and I like it a lot. It has a nice short crisp trigger pull now. I also added a Lantec 3.5lb connector and a Lantec polished safety plunger. My trigger weight now is also about 4lbs.Overwatch are also highly recommended, if I build another Glock I'm going to try one .
Post by: b23 on March 23, 2020, 04:46:55 PM
I just installed an Overwatch trigger in my not a Glock 17. Took to the range on Saturday and I like it a lot. It has a nice short crisp trigger pull now. I also added a Lantec 3.5lb connector and a Lantec polished safety plunger. My trigger weight now is also about 4lbs.
I'll have to go back and look, but I'm pretty sure the Apex kit I was looking at came with all those parts/pieces. I know some that I've looked at you had to buy them separate.
I'm starting to think this trigger kit idea could become very expensive. Not so much because the kit itself costs much, but it could change my mind about how I feel toward Glocks in general and I'll end up buying a few. :yike:
Post by: huntandjeep on March 23, 2020, 06:40:46 PM
It wont . I never liked Glocks , brother bought a couple , I shot them , still didnt like them . Only reason I have my 19 is because I wanted to build a Gucci Glock . Found a Gen 4 for cheap and am using that frame for the build .I just installed an Overwatch trigger in my not a Glock 17. Took to the range on Saturday and I like it a lot. It has a nice short crisp trigger pull now. I also added a Lantec 3.5lb connector and a Lantec polished safety plunger. My trigger weight now is also about 4lbs.I'm starting to think this trigger kit idea could become very expensive. Not so much because the kit itself costs much, but it could change my mind about how I feel toward Glocks in general and I'll end up buying a few. :yike:
Post by: b23 on March 24, 2020, 12:22:19 PM
Post by: b23 on March 31, 2020, 01:52:57 PM
Post by: huntandjeep on March 31, 2020, 04:34:30 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 31, 2020, 04:51:01 PM
Guess I have a small project to do now.
Well crap.......
Now I gotta go see what one of those costs.
Post by: b23 on March 31, 2020, 05:43:16 PM
Guess I have a small project to do now.
Well crap.......
Now I gotta go see what one of those costs.
One of the things I dislike the most about Glocks, is the trigger pull, so I'm thinking it's going to be worth every penny. Apex offers a couple different kits, the one I got has more pieces than their basic kit and I thought it was still pretty reasonably priced.
Post by: konradcountry on March 31, 2020, 05:51:42 PM
One of the things I dislike the most about Glocks, is the trigger pull, so I'm thinking it's going to be worth every penny. Apex offers a couple different kits, the one I got has more pieces than their basic kit and I thought it was still pretty reasonably priced.
I have just the ghost connector and I think it puts it in the "good enough" range.
Not as good as a Sig trigger but I still prefer the Glocks for the aftermarket.
I'm more into rifle shooting so I can live with a stock Glock trigger. I mostly shoot handguns to be proficient.
Post by: huntandjeep on March 31, 2020, 06:14:22 PM
They are all pretty reasonable. My Zev Pro was $150 . And 5 minutes to swap out . Was worth the coin IMOGuess I have a small project to do now.
Well crap.......
Now I gotta go see what one of those costs.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on March 31, 2020, 08:42:19 PM
Post by: Dan-o on March 31, 2020, 09:48:39 PM
Might have to try just replacing the connector.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 01, 2020, 07:59:34 AM
Post by: huntandjeep on April 01, 2020, 09:45:02 AM
I'm a pretty casual pistol shooter.Just polish where the connector and trigger bar make contact .
Might have to try just replacing the connector.
Post by: b23 on April 01, 2020, 11:54:20 AM
I'm a pretty casual pistol shooter.Just polish where the connector and trigger bar make contact .
Might have to try just replacing the connector.
For sheets and giggles, and mostly because my current schedule isn't particularly hectic, I'm going to measure the trigger as is, then polish up the plunger, connector, trigger bar, reassemble and measure. Then I'll drop in the Apex kit and measure. I'm kinda curious to see how all three compare.
Post by: huntandjeep on April 01, 2020, 05:29:50 PM
Alot of guys on Ar15.com swear by the $0.25 trigger job . Say the Zevs , Apex, Overwatch Etc are decent but lighten you wallet alot more then a good polish job . I dont know I just wanted a flat faced trigger for my Gucci Glock build is why I went with the Zev . I might have to get my brothers 17 and polish all his parts to compare a Zev To Apex to polish job .I'm a pretty casual pistol shooter.Just polish where the connector and trigger bar make contact .
Might have to try just replacing the connector.
For sheets and giggles, and mostly because my current schedule isn't particularly hectic, I'm going to measure the trigger as is, then polish up the plunger, connector, trigger bar, reassemble and measure. Then I'll drop in the Apex kit and measure. I'm kinda curious to see how all three compare.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on April 01, 2020, 06:51:13 PM
https://www.arsenaldemocracy.us/product/switch/
Post by: stlusn30-06 on April 01, 2020, 06:56:08 PM
If you're turning it into a range toy, zev, apex, killer, etc... all good enough and will accomplish what you are after.
Post by: huntandjeep on April 09, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Post by: b23 on April 09, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
@B23 Did you get it installed? Was it worth it?
Nope, still sitting in the box on my bench, which happens to have so much friggen sh1t on it I can't even see the bottom. I told someone the other day, it seems like the more free time I have, the less I get done. :rolleyes:
Now that I've ratted myself out for being lazy, maybe I'll go clean my entire gun/loading room and get something done.
Post by: jasnt on April 09, 2020, 08:57:42 PM
Post by: b23 on April 30, 2020, 10:09:08 PM
I'm starting to think this trigger kit idea could become very expensive. Not so much because the kit itself costs much, but it could change my mind about how I feel toward Glocks in general and I'll end up buying a few. :yike:It wont . I never liked Glocks , brother bought a couple , I shot them , still didnt like them . Only reason I have my 19 is because I wanted to build a Gucci Glock . Found a Gen 4 for cheap and am using that frame for the build .
Nope, it certainly won't! Still hate friggen Glock triggers.
Spent all day cleaning my gun room, yeah it was that bad, and installed the new parts. Lowered the trigger pull about 1 1/4 lbs so instead of being 6 lbs it's now right around 4 3/4 lbs. I even polished the he11 out of the entire trigger bar, plunger, connector, and the back end of the firing pin to the point they all look chromed. Everything except the firing pin was a new part from Apex but I polished them to a chrome finish anyway. I never really had a big issue with how heavy the trigger was but I was hoping to eliminate A LOT of that longggggg azz pull. It definitely helped shorten the length a pull a little, but nothing like I was hoping for.
So you were right, it's HIGHLY doubtful I'll be acquiring any new Glocks.
Post by: Alchase on April 30, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
After owning Glocks, Kimbers, Ruger, HKs, Sigs, Berrettas, and Springfields.
Every pistol I have owned, has shot better "for me" with an aftermarket trigger.
Polishing and sanding down, improved some, a little, but not compared to a good aftermarket trigger.
Post by: Alchase on April 30, 2020, 10:26:50 PM
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-glock-triggers/
Post by: huntandjeep on May 01, 2020, 08:11:08 PM
Sorry to hear that . At least you know . Look on the bright side , You won't be buying anymore Glocks so think of the money you will save :chuckle:I'm starting to think this trigger kit idea could become very expensive. Not so much because the kit itself costs much, but it could change my mind about how I feel toward Glocks in general and I'll end up buying a few. :yike:It wont . I never liked Glocks , brother bought a couple , I shot them , still didnt like them . Only reason I have my 19 is because I wanted to build a Gucci Glock . Found a Gen 4 for cheap and am using that frame for the build .
Nope, it certainly won't! Still hate friggen Glock triggers.
Spent all day cleaning my gun room, yeah it was that bad, and installed the new parts. Lowered the trigger pull about 1 1/4 lbs so instead of being 6 lbs it's now right around 4 3/4 lbs. I even polished the he11 out of the entire trigger bar, plunger, connector, and the back end of the firing pin to the point they all look chromed. Everything except the firing pin was a new part from Apex but I polished them to a chrome finish anyway. I never really had a big issue with how heavy the trigger was but I was hoping to eliminate A LOT of that longggggg azz pull. It definitely helped shorten the length a pull a little, but nothing like I was hoping for.
So you were right, it's HIGHLY doubtful I'll be acquiring any new Glocks.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 02, 2020, 12:29:52 AM
Pew Pew Tactical has a good write-up about polishing, and good available Glock triggers.
https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-glock-triggers/
I like that sight. I ran across it looking for AR sling recommendations.
Post by: b23 on May 02, 2020, 01:08:05 AM
Sorry to hear that . At least you know . Look on the bright side , You won't be buying anymore Glocks so think of the money you will save :chuckle:I'm starting to think this trigger kit idea could become very expensive. Not so much because the kit itself costs much, but it could change my mind about how I feel toward Glocks in general and I'll end up buying a few. :yike:It wont . I never liked Glocks , brother bought a couple , I shot them , still didnt like them . Only reason I have my 19 is because I wanted to build a Gucci Glock . Found a Gen 4 for cheap and am using that frame for the build .
Nope, it certainly won't! Still hate friggen Glock triggers.
Spent all day cleaning my gun room, yeah it was that bad, and installed the new parts. Lowered the trigger pull about 1 1/4 lbs so instead of being 6 lbs it's now right around 4 3/4 lbs. I even polished the he11 out of the entire trigger bar, plunger, connector, and the back end of the firing pin to the point they all look chromed. Everything except the firing pin was a new part from Apex but I polished them to a chrome finish anyway. I never really had a big issue with how heavy the trigger was but I was hoping to eliminate A LOT of that longggggg azz pull. It definitely helped shorten the length a pull a little, but nothing like I was hoping for.
So you were right, it's HIGHLY doubtful I'll be acquiring any new Glocks.
I ordered a spring kit from ZEV so we'll see if that helps much. If that doesn't get me were I want I saw a Youtube video Johnny Glocks did that is supposed to shorten the pull quite a bit. I'll give that a go after the ZEV spring kit. If that doesn't do it, at least I can say I tried and I'll just stick to my Sigs.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 02, 2020, 09:39:41 AM
Post by: b23 on May 02, 2020, 09:56:30 AM
Alchase's link above mentioned possibility of light primer strikes with Zev spring kit, unless using their aftermarket lightened striker. YMMV.
I've read that as well. The one thing I do really like about Glocks is how super simple they are to work on so if it's a problem, swapping back to the factory spring is easy peasy.
The Johnny Glock trick sounds like it may do the most for shortening the excessive amount of pull, but I want to order a couple spare trigger housings from Glock before I give that little trick a go.
Post by: huntandjeep on May 02, 2020, 01:43:04 PM
The one thing I do really like about Glocks is how super simple they are to work on so if it's a problem, swapping back to the factory spring is easy peasy.They are an easy gun to work on . Within an hour of picking up my 19 it was totally stripped to a pile of parts . Makes you wonder what " Certified Glock Armour's " pay to learn :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: b23 on May 09, 2020, 08:16:39 PM
Hopefully, the reduced power firing pin spring doesn't cause me any issues with light strikes. The cheapest 9mm ammo I shoot is CCI Blazer Brass so I'm hoping it won't be an issue. Worst case scenario, I have to put the factory firing pin spring back in.