Post by: Smossy on March 23, 2020, 07:06:39 PM
Seems kinda complicated and might just need it dumbed down for me :dunno:
Post by: JKEEN33 on March 23, 2020, 07:09:48 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 23, 2020, 07:13:54 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/licenses/environmental/hpa/types/prospectingThats a good start thanks, I never came across this one for some reason. Just random pages from ma and pa panners.
Post by: JKEEN33 on March 23, 2020, 07:18:06 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 23, 2020, 07:20:41 PM
You are required to have a copy of the pamphlet on you. I just print a copy and keep it in my pack. Lots of YouTube videos and clubs in WA.I kinda got on a gold kick one day, it was weird. I started thinking about it, then obsessing on it, now I want to find it.. lol
Lots of stuff to figure out quickly. Thanks for the feedback JKEEN33
Post by: Mudman on March 23, 2020, 07:59:59 PM
Post by: Cultusman on March 23, 2020, 08:30:58 PM
If you haven’t panned for Gold before do yourself a favor and buy a $20 dollar bag of Paydirt and practice panning it over and over till you get good at it. This will help shorten the learning curve greatly.
Post by: Jingles on March 23, 2020, 08:42:21 PM
One of the state clubs that has or had a lot of claims when I was a member, and before I got 2 of my own, was Gold Prospectors Mining Association or North Central Mining Association.
In regards to staking a claim first find an area that isn't already claimed then find some gold in that stream, river, creek, ditch, Mark that spot with a post with notice of discovery Name, Address, date of discovery, then contact BLM in Portland for papers to file a claim. It will take quite a bit of time staking out the boundaries of the claim and filling out paperwork and a considerable amount of money.
I can offer this info most everything on Blewett pass north side and south side is already claimed up and it is a Class C Felony for claim jumping ( prospecting panning sluicing, dredging, high banking, metal detecting on someone else's claim) and the majority of the claim owners up that a way will press charges however innocent the person might think they were.
Most FS, and DNR land is open for prospecting as long as it isn't already claimed.
If you want to practice and improve your panning abilities get some #8 shot 12 pieces pound it flat mix it into a cup of sand and pan that until you can keep it all in your pan.
Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 09:46:10 AM
To get started and learn more I would suggest joining one of the clubs here is WA. STAY away from Gold Prospectors Association of America or LDMA they are excellent at mining the miners.I'm not super concerned about being perfect. That's really part of what I want to do. I'm by no means in it for profit, I just cant get over the idea of finding precious materials the same way guys did 100 years ago.
One of the state clubs that has or had a lot of claims when I was a member, and before I got 2 of my own, was Gold Prospectors Mining Association or North Central Mining Association.
In regards to staking a claim first find an area that isn't already claimed then find some gold in that stream, river, creek, ditch, Mark that spot with a post with notice of discovery Name, Address, date of discovery, then contact BLM in Portland for papers to file a claim. It will take quite a bit of time staking out the boundaries of the claim and filling out paperwork and a considerable amount of money.
I can offer this info most everything on Blewett pass north side and south side is already claimed up and it is a Class C Felony for claim jumping ( prospecting panning sluicing, dredging, high banking, metal detecting on someone else's claim) and the majority of the claim owners up that a way will press charges however innocent the person might think they were.
Most FS, and DNR land is open for prospecting as long as it isn't already claimed.
If you want to practice and improve your panning abilities get some #8 shot 12 pieces pound it flat mix it into a cup of sand and pan that until you can keep it all in your pan.
Post by: Mudman on March 24, 2020, 10:21:01 AM
Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 11:21:07 AM
Go pan the sands on Deschutes off of vail rd area. You will find flour golds. Look for the recent flood plains loaded with sands and then look for any depressions with some black sands settling. It isnt much of worth but ya will find some yellow. Honestly ya wont find much of nothing without proper equipment and good locations. Nat forest up high for creeks and such? Get some classifier sifts and buckets n shovel/pick. Snuffer bottles. Highbanker or dredge. I had the Blue bowl to classify fine and it works but is very slow process. Gold Genie better imop. Mercury works great but not safe and hard to find, not recommended. Also have heard Kennedy creek Capitol forest has some gold but we never found any.. I would bet upper deschutes has a pocket somewhere if ya have access.I have the 888 backpack sluice from GR engineering in australia on it's way here, plus all my pans n such, having a hard time finding nice 5 gallons bucket classifiers though. I dont want plastic ones. Potentially gonna be going all the way to 400 grade. I drive vail road everyday to work so I may have to potentially check that out. Technically my sluice is a gradeless sluice, dump and recover.
https://highbanker.com.au/products/888-backpack-sluice-with-mini-cell-dream-mat
Post by: YellowDog on March 24, 2020, 01:38:23 PM
Post by: Buckewe on March 24, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 02:04:50 PM
Here is our backpack dredge design. Dont get out to dredge much myseld bhut beijng able to move a lot more material is nice when I do.That’s pretty nice, I wanted to stay away from pumps and high bankers for now as I think those require more licensing, no? the one I ordered I feel like should do me well, seems like lots of people have good luck with their wash mats.
Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 02:07:54 PM
There are some decent places in western wa. Almost exclusively flour gold. You have to move alot of material but it can be enough to keep you entertained. Look up historical gold maps close to you and you can find a small stream to work, it's just like hunting the farther from the road the better it gets. I will second staying away from any of the prospectors associations. I was just running my sluice on sunday a bucket that was laying around and had some decent flour gold.I’ll check our those maps, at this point any legit info helps being as I’m only a week or two into the interest. Gives me more reason to stream and creek hop, which is always fun by itself.
That 70oz liberty nugget I’m sure still has people out waiting to strike it rich. I’m not really trying to compete with people, I’ve seen multiple people (strangers) panning close proximity. I just wanna venture off on my own and find places that look untouched.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 24, 2020, 02:09:37 PM
I know there’s gold where I’ve tried because claims are in the area, and no I wasn’t on them, I like my body without holes in it.😉
Post by: Special T on March 24, 2020, 02:42:46 PM
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Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
I'll be honest, the best part of a mining claim would be the shack that you could build. Make a great place to recreate and hunt from if you ask me...This is one of the things I'm having problems learning about, owning a claim even if it's not on your land, vs mining on public lands, et . It's pretty complicated to me but I could just be over thinking and over reading, that's the problem with the internet these days, TOO much information is just as hard as no info, gotta decipher what's BS
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Post by: Special T on March 24, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
I drove through Liberty and some of the dirt roads just to check it out. It would be a cool area for a cabin... where you could "work" some dirt.
Post by: Jingles on March 24, 2020, 04:31:05 PM
I'll be honest, the best part of a mining claim would be the shack that you could build. Make a great place to recreate and hunt from if you ask me...
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Unfortunately on USFS land you can not build any structures for 2 reasons the first being it is almost impossible to get a patented claim anymore and second on either Placer or lode claims no permanent structures allowed. However once you do have a registered claim the 2 week limit does not apply to occupying the area as per 1972 Mining Act
Post by: Special T on March 24, 2020, 04:40:26 PM
I'll be honest, the best part of a mining claim would be the shack that you could build. Make a great place to recreate and hunt from if you ask me...
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Unfortunately on USFS land you can not build any structures for 2 reasons the first being it is almost impossible to get a patented claim anymore and second on either Placer or lode claims no permanent structures allowed. However once you do have a registered claim the 2 week limit does not apply to occupying the area as per 1972 Mining Act
Im not knowledgeable about all the rules but there were a lot of permanent buildings in oregon... dunno
Post by: Nwgunner on March 24, 2020, 06:48:45 PM
Ive never had an issue with plastic classifiers, I really like them.Go pan the sands on Deschutes off of vail rd area. You will find flour golds. Look for the recent flood plains loaded with sands and then look for any depressions with some black sands settling. It isnt much of worth but ya will find some yellow. Honestly ya wont find much of nothing without proper equipment and good locations. Nat forest up high for creeks and such? Get some classifier sifts and buckets n shovel/pick. Snuffer bottles. Highbanker or dredge. I had the Blue bowl to classify fine and it works but is very slow process. Gold Genie better imop. Mercury works great but not safe and hard to find, not recommended. Also have heard Kennedy creek Capitol forest has some gold but we never found any.. I would bet upper deschutes has a pocket somewhere if ya have access.I have the 888 backpack sluice from GR engineering in australia on it's way here, plus all my pans n such, having a hard time finding nice 5 gallons bucket classifiers though. I dont want plastic ones. Potentially gonna be going all the way to 400 grade. I drive vail road everyday to work so I may have to potentially check that out. Technically my sluice is a gradeless sluice, dump and recover.
https://highbanker.com.au/products/888-backpack-sluice-with-mini-cell-dream-mat
Post by: Nwgunner on March 24, 2020, 06:54:48 PM
Head east on chinook pass and there are several streams/rivers that you can pan. Just make sure it is not claimed!
Post by: Smossy on March 24, 2020, 09:26:02 PM
An interesting channel on YouTube is Darcy Cooper/Brute gold mining. Just a guy and his young son working his claim with no heavy machinery.I'll check it out for sure, I've been watching alot of Dan Hurd prospecting, he seems to know start to finish and I love his attitude.
Head east on chinook pass and there are several streams/rivers that you can pan. Just make sure it is not claimed!
Post by: gasman on March 27, 2020, 05:20:27 PM
I know if a few claims along Hwy 410 on the east side, but a map of boundaries would be helpful.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on March 27, 2020, 05:29:20 PM
This should have a lot of the records, the easiest way to search is by township/range/section. It can be a pain to find what your looking for on there though. I've never seen a single comprehensive map but it would be nice if there was
Post by: Jingles on March 27, 2020, 06:29:30 PM
Where an one get a map of current staked claims?
I know if a few claims along Hwy 410 on the east side, but a map of boundaries would be helpful.
BLM used to have or maybe still does have an online program called LR2000 where you could search for claims by entering T,R,S. I say had or maybe has because since I got my claims have not worried or been interested in finding any others. I have all I can work now don't need any more.
Post by: Smossy on April 05, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
Also, is it possible to purchase old placer claims? Maybe someone gave up or lost interest? Not quite sure how it works still. If there is, where can I find them?
On a side note.... Took home one Tupperware bowl of dirt from a river someone recommended me to, Long story short... GOLLDDDD!!!!!!
and a few other colors, either silver or some other type of silver colored metal. Not much but I'd say maybe 20 flakes for a sandwich sized tupperware from a random spot, might be worth getting back to once this quarantine lifts.
Post by: Sutherland on April 05, 2020, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: Jingles on April 06, 2020, 05:45:28 AM
So here's a random question. The process to actually file a claim, seems alittle difficult. Anyone that can dumb it down from me?
Also, is it possible to purchase old placer claims? Maybe someone gave up or lost interest? Not quite sure how it works still. If there is, where can I find them?
On a side note.... Took home one Tupperware bowl of dirt from a river someone recommended me to, Long story short... GOLLDDDD!!!!!!
and a few other colors, either silver or some other type of silver colored metal. Not much but I'd say maybe 20 flakes for a sandwich sized tupperware from a random spot, might be worth getting back to once this quarantine lifts.
Yes you can purchase placer claims from the claim owners and if three is a claim has been declared inactive you can file on it. But you have to act quick because others will
Post by: Smossy on April 06, 2020, 05:59:04 AM
Is there a website or??? To find any claim listings..So here's a random question. The process to actually file a claim, seems alittle difficult. Anyone that can dumb it down from me?
Also, is it possible to purchase old placer claims? Maybe someone gave up or lost interest? Not quite sure how it works still. If there is, where can I find them?
On a side note.... Took home one Tupperware bowl of dirt from a river someone recommended me to, Long story short... GOLLDDDD!!!!!!
and a few other colors, either silver or some other type of silver colored metal. Not much but I'd say maybe 20 flakes for a sandwich sized tupperware from a random spot, might be worth getting back to once this quarantine lifts.
Yes you can purchase placer claims from the claim owners and if three is a claim has been declared inactive you can file on it. But you have to act quick because others will
Post by: Jingles on April 06, 2020, 06:25:34 AM
Yes it was a bit confusing navigating through the program but the info was there.
The admin state for WA is actually OR
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on April 18, 2020, 10:58:43 PM
Doug
Post by: Jingles on April 19, 2020, 06:55:19 AM
Post by: Onewhohikes on April 19, 2020, 07:08:45 AM
Post by: Smossy on April 20, 2020, 07:55:09 PM
There must be a few cracks in the Boardwalk that could see color still! :dunno:Good lookin stuff there.
Doug
Post by: Mudman on April 20, 2020, 09:47:09 PM
There must be a few cracks in the Boardwalk that could see color still! :dunno:Thats a good clean out from a dredge right??
Doug
Post by: follow maggie on May 04, 2020, 08:18:35 PM
Post by: Smossy on August 03, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
Post by: gasman on August 07, 2020, 09:42:06 PM
Man I have been AT IT over the last few weeks. I can basically find nothing, Western wa is rough. Only solid spots of gold I found were out of a specific creek near Randle. I wont get into specifics considering there was two other old men there panning the creek/camping when I showed up. After they left I kinda snooped around, It looks like they were digging way under a big rock the size of a VW bug. Musta been something because it was a significant size hole.
Now that I think about it, Waddel Creek up at Capital forest. Heard a few thing's, couple buddy and I went up their and actually ame out with a few specs of gold. Was about 6 years ago or so, but may be worth looking in to some more.....
Morse Creek, on the east side going down from Chinook Pasz on the east side, going up towards Placer Lake would be another area to look at.
Post by: Mudman on August 08, 2020, 11:14:30 AM
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