Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 30, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
Post by: CoryTDF on March 30, 2020, 02:26:52 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 30, 2020, 02:27:26 PM
Post by: HUNT JR on March 30, 2020, 02:30:45 PM
Post by: bearmanric on March 30, 2020, 02:36:12 PM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 30, 2020, 02:37:01 PM
Post by: HillHound on March 30, 2020, 02:37:30 PM
Pretty bummed out wish they would just say everyone who drew this year has it next yearThat is definitely what they should do. And that’s coming from a guy who didn’t even draw it this year. I would be pissed if I drew it and they just said hey get your points back and your back into the bucket again. Not cool if that’s what happens
Post by: dilleytech on March 30, 2020, 02:38:52 PM
Post by: Tenkara on March 30, 2020, 02:40:19 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on March 30, 2020, 02:43:19 PM
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 02:45:31 PM
Post by: Tenkara on March 30, 2020, 02:46:30 PM
Dang, the year I finally get drawn... It says in the E-Mail we can get our points back, but nothing about carrying the tag over to next Spring. No way that's going to happen :twocents:I think if they're even considering canceling the rest of the draws they should just postpone it until next year now. :twocents:
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
Post by: CoryTDF on March 30, 2020, 02:46:41 PM
Dang, the year I finally get drawn... It says in the E-Mail we can get our points back, but nothing about carrying the tag over to next Spring. No way that's going to happen :twocents:
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
Sorry about your tag Mike. I know you were looking forward to it. Worst case you can come over in September and I'll get you on a hill that has a herd or bears!
Post by: CoryTDF on March 30, 2020, 02:47:34 PM
Dang, the year I finally get drawn... It says in the E-Mail we can get our points back, but nothing about carrying the tag over to next Spring. No way that's going to happen :twocents:I think if they're even considering canceling the rest of the draws they should just postpone it until next year now. :twocents:
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
Truth! I would like to know before I fork over the cash for all 4 of my household hunters.
Post by: KFhunter on March 30, 2020, 02:48:34 PM
Pretty bummed out wish they would just say everyone who drew this year has it next year
Then I wouldn't put in next year, or buy a tag..or any WDFW tags for that matter.
I'm already deeply conflicted about continuing buying WDFW tags.
Post by: TriggerMike on March 30, 2020, 02:51:53 PM
Dang, the year I finally get drawn... It says in the E-Mail we can get our points back, but nothing about carrying the tag over to next Spring. No way that's going to happen :twocents:
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
Sorry about your tag Mike. I know you were looking forward to it. Worst case you can come over in September and I'll get you on a hill that has a herd or bears!
Sounds good. Appreciate the offer :tup:
Post by: Cougartail on March 30, 2020, 02:58:41 PM
If youre dying to go hunting, cougar is still open in most units. Tomorrow is the last day to fill your 2019 tag. Starting wednesday youll need a 2020 tag. Bear may be suspended, but you can go hunt cats right now, and dont even need to travel to the ne corner to do so. Better than sitting in your house getting nagged by the wife, right? Go kill some cats!
Just bought my 2020/2001 license and a new call.. Getting ready to go!
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 02:59:56 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2020, 03:00:35 PM
Dang, the year I finally get drawn... It says in the E-Mail we can get our points back, but nothing about carrying the tag over to next Spring. No way that's going to happen :twocents:
Could you imagine getting a sheep tag and then this happened? :yike:
The fires did this a couple years ago for mountain goats in a unit, but I can't remember which ones. The tag holders got their tags the following year.
Post by: bobcat on March 30, 2020, 03:01:44 PM
That is a bummer. But the best hunting is late May and into June so hopefully it will be back open by then.
Post by: millerwheeler on March 30, 2020, 03:02:05 PM
Well I just spent 30 minutes on the phone and there's not a chance it's gonna take the chance of gambling the tagPretty bummed out wish they would just say everyone who drew this year has it next yearThat is definitely what they should do. And that’s coming from a guy who didn’t even draw it this year. I would be pissed if I drew it and they just said hey get your points back and your back into the bucket again. Not cool if that’s what happens
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2020, 03:02:35 PM
Post by: Sutherland on March 30, 2020, 03:23:36 PM
Post by: StuckoYota99 on March 30, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Post by: cmiller85 on March 30, 2020, 03:39:12 PM
Post by: baker5150 on March 30, 2020, 03:40:35 PM
If youre dying to go hunting, cougar is still open in most units. Tomorrow is the last day to fill your 2019 tag. Starting wednesday youll need a 2020 tag. Bear may be suspended, but you can go hunt cats right now, and dont even need to travel to the ne corner to do so. Better than sitting in your house getting nagged by the wife, right? Go kill some cats!
Is there anything open to public access right now?
Private sure, but I thought all the public land was shut down. BLM maybe? :dunno:
Post by: Magnum_Willys on March 30, 2020, 03:41:58 PM
Their website says they will reassess on April 6th. Doesn't sound like all hope is lost just yet.
Things gonna get better in a week ? By Fall maybe.
But the good news is I didn't draw so didn't lose my two points for nothing.
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 03:44:19 PM
If youre dying to go hunting, cougar is still open in most units. Tomorrow is the last day to fill your 2019 tag. Starting wednesday youll need a 2020 tag. Bear may be suspended, but you can go hunt cats right now, and dont even need to travel to the ne corner to do so. Better than sitting in your house getting nagged by the wife, right? Go kill some cats!
Is there anything open to public access right now?
Private sure, but I thought all the public land was shut down. BLM maybe? :dunno:
National forest is still open, just the major trail heads and campgrounds are closed.
As far as i know private timber company lands are still open, at least in my area.
Post by: Woodchuck on March 30, 2020, 03:50:57 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
Post by: jrebel on March 30, 2020, 03:58:10 PM
Straight off of their email. Don't request your points back just yet. They may open it when the hunting is good....may - june. Keep everything and sit back and see what happens. If I can't hunt bear in the spring I will keep my tag for the fall and request my points back in the middle of June.
I totally understand, though I don't agree with painting with such a wide brush. For those who live on the east side of the state and hunt private land, why are we loosing the ability to hunt. I get it, they can't make special rules for each person based on where they live....but it does suck because I have some brutes on my property that need to be shot / thinned out. :bash: :bash: Only thing I buy is fuel as our cabin is stocked locked and ready to rock.
The reality of all this is people are still traveling. This stops the hunters from hunting. If they really want to make a difference they would not allow for non essential travel across county lines.
Post by: cougforester on March 30, 2020, 05:07:19 PM
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 05:13:41 PM
Well do we think they didn't add Huckleberry on purpose? Or did they make a mistake and miss it?
Just a typical wdfw screw up, like the unit 101 "kelly hill" permits that were mailed out.
Wdfw doesnt hardly realize we exist over here. They dont seem to know how many gmus we have, or what theyre called. And they certainly seem clueless about the state of our big game here.
Mild profanity warning, for those sensitive to such things, but i think its a good summary of wdfws general awareness of this area and attitude towards its hunters and residents.
Post by: trophyhunt on March 30, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
Post by: cmiller85 on March 30, 2020, 05:43:03 PM
Their website says they will reassess on April 6th. Doesn't sound like all hope is lost just yet.
Things gonna get better in a week ? By Fall maybe.
But the good news is I didn't draw so didn't lose my two points for nothing.
Not in a week I don't suspect but I'm hopeful that means by the end of next month or something so at least guys can use their tags. And not the whole season will be lost.
Post by: gonehuntin68 on March 30, 2020, 05:44:57 PM
Very pissed and disappointed, another over reaction that’s not needed. I will deal with 100 people at work this week, I’ll need to stop for gas and go grocery shopping. I will deal w zero people out bear hunting, zero! For bear, get gas and go! They haven’t closed my unit yet, but it’s coming, no way the numbers will level off by April 6. We have a better chance at spreading this virus working than bear hunting, such crap!
Could not have said it. Better
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2020, 06:13:46 PM
Very pissed and disappointed, another over reaction that’s not needed. I will deal with 100 people at work this week, I’ll need to stop for gas and go grocery shopping. I will deal w zero people out bear hunting, zero! For bear, get gas and go! They haven’t closed my unit yet, but it’s coming, no way the numbers will level off by April 6. We have a better chance at spreading this virus working than bear hunting, such crap!
Word on the street is the numbers may be starting to level off here. I heard it about 56 times on the radio on the drive home from work today. Don’t lose hope for early May!! It’s no good till then anyway, right?
Post by: bearpaw on March 30, 2020, 06:31:38 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 30, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2020, 06:49:18 PM
Their website says they will reassess on April 6th. Doesn't sound like all hope is lost just yet.
That is for spring bear seasons and turkey seasons that starts on April 15th. All seasons that start prior to April 15th have been cancelled for now. They state they "may" reopen the season "later", but who wants to risk their points on WDFW opening the season. Knowing them, they would give a week or two at the end of the season without anytime to scout. :dunno: My wife is going to get her points back and try again next year.
Post by: cougforester on March 30, 2020, 06:51:28 PM
Their website says they will reassess on April 6th. Doesn't sound like all hope is lost just yet.
That is for spring bear seasons and turkey seasons that starts on April 15th. All seasons that start prior to April 15th have been cancelled for now. They state they "may" reopen the season "later", but who wants to risk their points on WDFW opening the season. Knowing them, they would give a week or two at the end of the season without anytime to scout. :dunno: My wife is going to get her points back and try again next year.
I sent them an email asking what would happen in this exact situation. I'll follow up with what I hear back.
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 06:51:31 PM
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2020, 06:53:55 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 30, 2020, 06:56:51 PM
Yes, I don't usually hunt until mid/late May. I will be surprised if it’s not open by then, it’s just a kick in the balls. My future son in-law is so excited to go and I feel bad for him and others. You know me, glass is always half empty lol, but deep down I think we will be out there late May.Very pissed and disappointed, another over reaction that’s not needed. I will deal with 100 people at work this week, I’ll need to stop for gas and go grocery shopping. I will deal w zero people out bear hunting, zero! For bear, get gas and go! They haven’t closed my unit yet, but it’s coming, no way the numbers will level off by April 6. We have a better chance at spreading this virus working than bear hunting, such crap!
Word on the street is the numbers may be starting to level off here. I heard it about 56 times on the radio on the drive home from work today. Don’t lose hope for early May!! It’s no good till then anyway, right?
Post by: trophyhunt on March 30, 2020, 06:58:08 PM
You lose your points if you don't ask for them to be reinstated and forfeit your permit before they open the season is what WDFW told my wife today.That is not what the email says, but that is usual protocol, I’m assuming she talked to an employee who isn’t up to speed.
Post by: cougforester on March 30, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
You lose your points if you don't ask for them to be reinstated and forfeit your permit before they open the season is what WDFW told my wife today.That is not what the email says, but that is usual protocol, I’m assuming she talked to an employee who isn’t up to speed.
This is correct. Here's the quote:
"If we do not open the spring season but you would like to hunt in the fall, keep your bear tag. You can request point restoration at any time."
I just sent an email asking what "at any time" actually means for them. I'll share when/if I get a response.
Post by: millerwheeler on March 30, 2020, 07:12:10 PM
You lose your points if you don't ask for them to be reinstated and forfeit your permit before they open the season is what WDFW told my wife today.
This is exactly what they told me today also
Post by: millerwheeler on March 30, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
please do because they said had to be before season opened to me on phoneYou lose your points if you don't ask for them to be reinstated and forfeit your permit before they open the season is what WDFW told my wife today.That is not what the email says, but that is usual protocol, I’m assuming she talked to an employee who isn’t up to speed.
This is correct. Here's the quote:
"If we do not open the spring season but you would like to hunt in the fall, keep your bear tag. You can request point restoration at any time."
I just sent an email asking what "at any time" actually means for them. I'll share when/if I get a response.
Post by: cougforester on March 30, 2020, 07:16:40 PM
please do because they said had to be before season opened to me on phoneYou lose your points if you don't ask for them to be reinstated and forfeit your permit before they open the season is what WDFW told my wife today.That is not what the email says, but that is usual protocol, I’m assuming she talked to an employee who isn’t up to speed.
This is correct. Here's the quote:
"If we do not open the spring season but you would like to hunt in the fall, keep your bear tag. You can request point restoration at any time."
I just sent an email asking what "at any time" actually means for them. I'll share when/if I get a response.
At least you got through to them. I sat on hold for 45 minutes :chuckle:
Post by: emac on March 30, 2020, 07:17:23 PM
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Post by: hunter399 on March 30, 2020, 07:42:36 PM
More like they will reevaluate it when April 15 comes and the old West side hunters start getting pissed off and want refunds.And the flood of emails start coming in. especialy the emails from Turkey hunters come the 15.
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2020, 08:21:28 PM
I've only heard of one bear being seen so far, I still expect we'll have hunting seasons back sometime in May when the bear movement actually begins.
I’d probably listen to this guy’s wisdom if I had a spring bear tag.
:dunno:
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2020, 08:24:25 PM
Yes, I don't usually hunt until mid/late May. I will be surprised if it’s not open by then, it’s just a kick in the balls. My future son in-law is so excited to go and I feel bad for him and others. You know me, glass is always half empty lol, but deep down I think we will be out there late May.Very pissed and disappointed, another over reaction that’s not needed. I will deal with 100 people at work this week, I’ll need to stop for gas and go grocery shopping. I will deal w zero people out bear hunting, zero! For bear, get gas and go! They haven’t closed my unit yet, but it’s coming, no way the numbers will level off by April 6. We have a better chance at spreading this virus working than bear hunting, such crap!
Word on the street is the numbers may be starting to level off here. I heard it about 56 times on the radio on the drive home from work today. Don’t lose hope for early May!! It’s no good till then anyway, right?
Chin up, bud. Lots of overreactions are what will get us through this craziness.
Post by: jrebel on March 30, 2020, 08:50:53 PM
https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/sports/local/mountain-bikers-need-to-play-it-safe-too/article_71ec4b48-72d2-11ea-bb2e-6bca4c777012.html?fbclid=IwAR0r6j1C3gXxJ3nWO2LJP0Q_2v-t8Vg3xT5iGuT0gB3_mfvVw9whqgRLFjg
Post by: jackelope on March 30, 2020, 08:59:05 PM
Post by: jrebel on March 30, 2020, 09:08:13 PM
Post by: drhunter04 on March 30, 2020, 09:10:22 PM
My email to WDFW
DFW,
I'm writting to get clarification on the spring bear hunt. I would like to hunt this spring but at the same time I don't want to lose my points for a very short hunting season. Will permit holders be notified before the season opens, to have a chance to request their points back before losing them. Aka will we be notified 2 or 3 days before a planned season opener?
Reply.....
Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.
No, If you do not let us know you would like point restoration before April 1st, you would no longer be eligible unless the season does not open at all.
Sincerely,
Wildlife Program Customer Service
360-902-2515
Post by: jrebel on March 30, 2020, 09:16:47 PM
Subject: Spring bear hunt
My email to WDFW
DFW,
I'm writting to get clarification on the spring bear hunt. I would like to hunt this spring but at the same time I don't want to lose my points for a very short hunting season. Will permit holders be notified before the season opens, to have a chance to request their points back before losing them. Aka will we be notified 2 or 3 days before a planned season opener?
Reply.....
Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.
No, If you do not let us know you would like point restoration before April 1st, you would no longer be eligible unless the season does not open at all.
Sincerely,
Wildlife Program Customer Service
360-902-2515
Wow....that is complete bullshiiiittt. It contradicts the email the sent out. What a bunch butt clowns. Please cut and past the actual email so I know your not stirring the pot with only one post.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 30, 2020, 09:21:08 PM
Fishing, I kind of understood do to the shear numbers of people statewide and limited access on the west side of the state (it was explained very well on another thread). Spring Bear is very limited....like less than 700 participants spread literally all over the state. There are more than 700 people daily driving all over the state just because. Instead of closing it they should have put out a public memo to stay safe when hunting and reccomended packing all needed food, wearing gloves at the gass stations and being responsible. Just doesn't make much sense when it is such a small part of the population and they would be social distancing in the woods where they are less likely to infect others or become infected. :bash:I thought it was only some NE units? Somehow they figured 90% of the hunters going to those units were from the westside units loaded with coronavirus.
I guess they don't have any residents from the NE hunting the westside units, having to drive through Seattle or Tacoma, and then bring it back later?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 30, 2020, 09:25:11 PM
Post by: carandc on March 30, 2020, 09:25:59 PM
If youre dying to go hunting, cougar is still open in most units. Tomorrow is the last day to fill your 2019 tag. Starting wednesday youll need a 2020 tag. Bear may be suspended, but you can go hunt cats right now, and dont even need to travel to the ne corner to do so. Better than sitting in your house getting nagged by the wife, right? Go kill some cats!
Can you point me to where you found that info? I thought I could use my '19 tag since the regs say, "A 2019 cougar license/tag is required to hunt cougar in April 2020."
I'm looking to go out calling again into April and don't want to get in trouble and also don't want to waste my '20 tag if I don't have to.
Thanks - I appreciate all of your postings on cougar stuff.
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 09:33:00 PM
If youre dying to go hunting, cougar is still open in most units. Tomorrow is the last day to fill your 2019 tag. Starting wednesday youll need a 2020 tag. Bear may be suspended, but you can go hunt cats right now, and dont even need to travel to the ne corner to do so. Better than sitting in your house getting nagged by the wife, right? Go kill some cats!
Can you point me to where you found that info? I thought I could use my '19 tag since the regs say, "A 2019 cougar license/tag is required to hunt cougar in April 2020."
I'm looking to go out calling again into April and don't want to get in trouble and also don't want to waste my '20 tag if I don't have to.
Thanks - I appreciate all of your postings on cougar stuff.
That was a misprint. They even corrected it in the downloadable regs. April 1st begins a new license year, and a 2020 cougar tag is required.
Here is the correction
Post by: cougforester on March 30, 2020, 09:36:46 PM
Maybe WDFW should have a little online course (like Bear ID or something) that covers social distancing and coronavirus mitigation/responsibilities. It could cover stopping for gas, bathroom, how/where to get groceries......... If you don't get a 100%, you don't get your tag or fishing license until you do. :dunno:
Don't give them ideas. 6 dollars to apply for a gas station endorsement, 17 bucks for gas and groceries, 22.50 for gas, groceries and public campgrounds. Can't you see it?
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 09:37:15 PM
Subject: Spring bear hunt
My email to WDFW
DFW,
I'm writting to get clarification on the spring bear hunt. I would like to hunt this spring but at the same time I don't want to lose my points for a very short hunting season. Will permit holders be notified before the season opens, to have a chance to request their points back before losing them. Aka will we be notified 2 or 3 days before a planned season opener?
Reply.....
Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.
No, If you do not let us know you would like point restoration before April 1st, you would no longer be eligible unless the season does not open at all.
Sincerely,
Wildlife Program Customer Service
360-902-2515
Wow, so you get like one whole day of notice? Whst a pile of crap.
Post by: Skillet on March 30, 2020, 09:42:24 PM
That is a pretty firm Rodgering.
It should be that they allow you to make the decision to redeem points any time up to the point they re-open the season. What if you take the chance and they open it for one weekend in June?
This reeks of poor management.
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 09:44:39 PM
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2020, 09:49:34 PM
Yeah, they need to get their act together. Hey, know what could have solved the problem about this whole getting points back mess? OTC SPRING BEAR!
Couldnt agree more, but how would the get more money out of us? Think of all the money WDFW would be losing in spring bear apps.
Post by: Bango skank on March 30, 2020, 09:51:58 PM
Yeah, they need to get their act together. Hey, know what could have solved the problem about this whole getting points back mess? OTC SPRING BEAR!
Couldnt agree more, but how would the get more money out of us? Think of all the money WDFW would be losing in spring bear apps.
I gave them a specific idea on that which i believe would work, and if it didnt they could always go back after s trial period of otc.
Otc spring bear, but a "spring bear" license is only valid in the spring. Dont fill it by the end of the spring season? Its worthless, have to buy fall tags to hunt fall. I think theyd end up making more money that way.
Post by: cem3434 on March 30, 2020, 09:56:53 PM
Post by: drhunter04 on March 30, 2020, 10:11:45 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 30, 2020, 10:34:56 PM
Yeah, they need to get their act together. Hey, know what could have solved the problem about this whole getting points back mess? OTC SPRING BEAR! And if they just had otc spring bear in every unit, like they should, people wouldnt have to cross the whole damn state to come up here. The hunting pressure could be spread out across the state, wouldnt even have to cancel the season.
That really wouldn't solve the problem most people recreate away from home? Most people don't hunt in the gmu they live in correct? I'm just saying even if it was otc I'm sure they still would have cancelled it . Look at youth turkey, and u can bet turkey season is next . I'm pissed about it took 8 years for me to draw but when people recreate and travel they do breathe life into small.towns and the economy. This whole China virus crap sucks .
Post by: HUNT JR on March 31, 2020, 07:17:43 AM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 31, 2020, 07:31:33 AM
I just want to go bear hunting
Post by: baker5150 on March 31, 2020, 07:39:22 AM
Fishing, I kind of understood do to the shear numbers of people statewide and limited access on the west side of the state (it was explained very well on another thread). Spring Bear is very limited....like less than 700 participants spread literally all over the state. There are more than 700 people daily driving all over the state just because. Instead of closing it they should have put out a public memo to stay safe when hunting and reccomended packing all needed food, wearing gloves at the gass stations and being responsible. Just doesn't make much sense when it is such a small part of the population and they would be social distancing in the woods where they are less likely to infect others or become infected. :bash:I thought it was only some NE units? Somehow they figured 90% of the hunters going to those units were from the westside units loaded with coronavirus.
I guess they don't have any residents from the NE hunting the westside units, having to drive through Seattle or Tacoma, and then bring it back later?
They know where the tag holders live, they have all their personal info. So they know where the tag holders are traveling from.
Post by: baker5150 on March 31, 2020, 07:45:01 AM
I have attach a screen shot of the Reply from my post earlier, that was a copy and paste of the email.
It could be that the person replying to your email is confusing "Refund" with "Point restoration"
The email says "Refund before season opens"
Point restoration says "anytime"
We have seen contradicting statements by WDFW employees and enforcement in the past, in almost every subject, I wouldn't be surprised if this was another case.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 31, 2020, 07:48:47 AM
The are also allowing you to request points back now and forego any hunting if they do open it up later on.
Makes sense to me how they are doing it. :twocents:
Post by: bearmanric on March 31, 2020, 08:02:02 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on March 31, 2020, 08:05:35 AM
Fishing, I kind of understood do to the shear numbers of people statewide and limited access on the west side of the state (it was explained very well on another thread). Spring Bear is very limited....like less than 700 participants spread literally all over the state. There are more than 700 people daily driving all over the state just because. Instead of closing it they should have put out a public memo to stay safe when hunting and reccomended packing all needed food, wearing gloves at the gass stations and being responsible. Just doesn't make much sense when it is such a small part of the population and they would be social distancing in the woods where they are less likely to infect others or become infected. :bash:I thought it was only some NE units? Somehow they figured 90% of the hunters going to those units were from the westside units loaded with coronavirus.
I guess they don't have any residents from the NE hunting the westside units, having to drive through Seattle or Tacoma, and then bring it back later?
If they do, I bet it's well under 10%.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 31, 2020, 08:35:16 AM
So if I don't get my points back today I lose every thing.Bummer lost all my business this is when I sell bear calls and my bear calling seminar at Cabelas LOL. Getting very confused. took for ever to get Kelly hill LOL.You can either request points now and risk them opening it and you not having a permit anymore or wait it put with your permit and hunt if they open it.
If they do not open it at all you are still entitled to your points back at a later date.
Post by: hunter399 on March 31, 2020, 08:41:13 AM
Shouldn't they just give them back to ya no questions asked.
They closed the North East over 390 permits that most won't even hunt that much.Take off 10% for people that live here in the N.E that's 39 people they bent over.
I guess it's time to go to home depot like everyone else and get some project's started.Instead of being in the middle of nowhere glassing hills.
Post by: bearmanric on March 31, 2020, 08:51:37 AM
Post by: greenhead_killer on March 31, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 31, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 31, 2020, 11:03:20 AM
Well I think I am going to play stupid on this. The email they officially sent out specifically states we can get our points back at any time. If they refuse, they have no leg to stand on and I am sure it will be a *censored* show. I am willing to bet far less than half the people who drew tags are on this forum and know about the contradictory statements from the WDFW.
I just want to go bear hunting
A d the correction email they sent out today did you read it ? They don't and haven't ever in past compromised much even when they make a mistake
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 31, 2020, 11:15:37 AM
Well I think I am going to play stupid on this. The email they officially sent out specifically states we can get our points back at any time. If they refuse, they have no leg to stand on and I am sure it will be a *censored* show. I am willing to bet far less than half the people who drew tags are on this forum and know about the contradictory statements from the WDFW.
I just want to go bear hunting
A d the correction email they sent out today did you read it ? They don't and haven't ever in past compromised much even when they make a mistake
I have not received any email from them today?
Post by: millerwheeler on March 31, 2020, 11:18:49 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 31, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on March 31, 2020, 11:44:07 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on March 31, 2020, 11:58:11 AM
Post by: drhunter04 on March 31, 2020, 12:31:52 PM
(360) 902-2510 from WDFW. He clarified we will have unit the hunt actually starts to decide if you want your points back or not. I told him I had heard otherwise in an email from WDFW and expressed the general confusion everyone has. He said he would get an official release sent out right away to officially clarify. Hold tight tag holders! He was very understanding and wanted to help.
Thanks Eric Gardner for the help!
Post by: HoytHunter24 on March 31, 2020, 12:44:22 PM
I just talked with Eric Gardner,Wildlife Program,
(360) 902-2510 from WDFW. He clarified we will have unit the hunt actually starts to decide if you want your points back or not. I told him I had heard otherwise in an email from WDFW and expressed the general confusion everyone has. He said he would get an official release sent out right away to officially clarify. Hold tight tag holders! He was very understanding and wanted to help.
Thanks Eric Gardner for the help!
This is good to hear. thank you for updating us and explaining our frustration!
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 31, 2020, 12:48:45 PM
So if I don't get my points back today I lose every thing.Bummer lost all my business this is when I sell bear calls and my bear calling seminar at Cabelas LOL. Getting very confused. took for ever to get Kelly hill LOL.
Mid-May seems to be one of the best times to hunt spring bear up this way.Hopefully they will open it by then..Here are some Kelly Hill spring bear.. Beautiful color phase bear up there....look at the date on the trail cam pic.. Hope you get to go!!
Post by: TriggerMike on March 31, 2020, 02:20:20 PM
I just talked with Eric Gardner,Wildlife Program,Very good. Thank you.
(360) 902-2510 from WDFW. He clarified we will have unit the hunt actually starts to decide if you want your points back or not. I told him I had heard otherwise in an email from WDFW and expressed the general confusion everyone has. He said he would get an official release sent out right away to officially clarify. Hold tight tag holders! He was very understanding and wanted to help.
Thanks Eric Gardner for the help!
Post by: millerwheeler on March 31, 2020, 02:35:20 PM
Post by: buglebrush on March 31, 2020, 03:02:49 PM
It would be nice if they would give the tags back next year but i doubt that will happen
I don't have a horse in the race ( I just OTC spring bear in Idaho), however they should reissue tags for any unsuccessful tag holders from this year plus draw the normal amount again. Plenty of bears, too many to miss a year of harvest.
Post by: wheels on March 31, 2020, 05:59:24 PM
Post by: jason4429 on April 01, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 10:20:47 AM
Washington doesn’t even have any travel restrictions for travelers from other states, but they are going to say I can’t travel to the next county. They are so ridiculous. I’m required to travel further then that to go to work. Where I’m around people all day. Such b.s.Total agree
Bunch of B.S. I live less than 5 miles away from where I would be hunting .
It's 390 NE Washington tags they are not opening .Im just waiting it out to see how it plays out with general Turkey season,or west side bear permits.
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 10:31:07 AM
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 01, 2020, 11:03:36 AM
Post by: millerwheeler on April 01, 2020, 11:05:50 AM
My season isn't supposed to start until the 15th but if we don't get a season I would like the option to roll it over to next spring. They only gave 18 permits, I may never draw again. This sucks!
You won't get the option to push it no matter what the circumstance have they done that before on anything other than a few oil tags ?
Post by: Igor on April 01, 2020, 11:06:51 AM
Washington doesn’t even have any travel restrictions for travelers from other states, but they are going to say I can’t travel to the next county. They are so ridiculous. I’m required to travel further then that to go to work. Where I’m around people all day. Such b.s.Total agree
Bunch of B.S. I live less than 5 miles away from where I would be hunting .
It's 390 NE Washington tags they are not opening .Im just waiting it out to see how it plays out with general Turkey season,or west side bear permits.
Just curious......So you wouldn't mind having 3 or 4 West-siders, say from Seattle or Kirkland, coming to YOUR area to hunt while you are there?
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
Nope don't mind at all ,just be respectful like you would at home, wash your hand little hand sanitizer every now and then ,your good to go.ohh and don't cough on me at the gas station .Now I don't speak for everybody in the county mind you,and most of my extra time would be in the woods ,so I dont think are chances of meeting are slim.Washington doesn’t even have any travel restrictions for travelers from other states, but they are going to say I can’t travel to the next county. They are so ridiculous. I’m required to travel further then that to go to work. Where I’m around people all day. Such b.s.Total agree
Bunch of B.S. I live less than 5 miles away from where I would be hunting .
It's 390 NE Washington tags they are not opening .Im just waiting it out to see how it plays out with general Turkey season,or west side bear permits.
Just curious......So you wouldn't mind having 3 or 4 West-siders, say from Seattle or Kirkland, coming to YOUR area to hunt while you are there?
I was on my way home from work that hotel in colville has there reader board that says right now welcome hunters,I was a little shocked to see it saying that.Thought to myself ,no hunters coming to town buddy.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 01, 2020, 12:30:21 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 12:52:41 PM
some east siders are so funny, you think those of us who live on the wet side are walking around like zombie's with the plague.No I try not to think that .but all that stuff I've been doing myself.I use hand sanitizer after the gas station,wash my hands after restroom. And I don't want anybody coughing on me doesn't matter east or west.I also wear a mask a big stores,Costco,Wal-Mart,WinCo,ECT.n95 mask too.
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 12:57:05 PM
Post by: Igor on April 01, 2020, 01:09:06 PM
I will tell ya secret ,you know why china doesn't have the covid19 anymore,every picture you see over there every one of them got mask on,and I hear they eat a lot of garlic now.
China could have downplayed its number of confirmed coronavirus cases "by a factor of 15 to 40 times."
Wuhan's death toll could be astronomically higher than the Chinese government has reported, some residents say
https://news.yahoo.com/wuhans-death-toll-could-astronomically-204533948.html
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 01:21:58 PM
Where getting off topic ,but I do believe ya that it's killed a lot more then they let on.And they all wearing masks for a reason ,that's something there government can't cover up is all of them got mask on .I will tell ya secret ,you know why china doesn't have the covid19 anymore,every picture you see over there every one of them got mask on,and I hear they eat a lot of garlic now.
China could have downplayed its number of confirmed coronavirus cases "by a factor of 15 to 40 times."
Wuhan's death toll could be astronomically higher than the Chinese government has reported, some residents say
https://news.yahoo.com/wuhans-death-toll-could-astronomically-204533948.html
Ok carry on
Spring 🐻
Post by: jason4429 on April 01, 2020, 03:39:08 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 01, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
I take the virus very serious. I hunt by myself and can drive to my spot without stopping and coming in contact with any humans. I have little to no risk of coming in contact with the virus. I guess I will just have to wait and see what they decide to do.I feel ya,same here.
I'm almost sure on the 15 they will open Westside units ,How many east side hunters put in for those.Less Travel I guess.
Post by: follow maggie on April 02, 2020, 12:03:34 AM
Where getting off topic ,but I do believe ya that it's killed a lot more then they let on.And they all wearing masks for a reason ,that's something there government can't cover up is all of them got mask on .I will tell ya secret ,you know why china doesn't have the covid19 anymore,every picture you see over there every one of them got mask on,and I hear they eat a lot of garlic now.
China could have downplayed its number of confirmed coronavirus cases "by a factor of 15 to 40 times."
Wuhan's death toll could be astronomically higher than the Chinese government has reported, some residents say
https://news.yahoo.com/wuhans-death-toll-could-astronomically-204533948.html
Ok carry on
Spring 🐻
People in China have been masks for many years because of their terrible pollution.
Post by: hunter399 on April 02, 2020, 04:07:16 AM
Yes correct.Where getting off topic ,but I do believe ya that it's killed a lot more then they let on.And they all wearing masks for a reason ,that's something there government can't cover up is all of them got mask on .I will tell ya secret ,you know why china doesn't have the covid19 anymore,every picture you see over there every one of them got mask on,and I hear they eat a lot of garlic now.
China could have downplayed its number of confirmed coronavirus cases "by a factor of 15 to 40 times."
Wuhan's death toll could be astronomically higher than the Chinese government has reported, some residents say
https://news.yahoo.com/wuhans-death-toll-could-astronomically-204533948.html
Ok carry on
Spring 🐻
People in China have been masks for many years because of their terrible pollution.
Carry on spring bear topics
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 02, 2020, 06:31:21 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 02, 2020, 06:33:55 PM
Stay home stay healthy extended to May 4th :bash:
Post by: trophyhunt on April 02, 2020, 06:44:36 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 02, 2020, 09:23:29 PM
I'm waiting to see if they open west side units on the facts that they don't have to travel that far to hunt.
But hay we just peaked on covid19 may4, let's open every season up.
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2020, 09:39:22 PM
Still plenty of time to open it (or keep it open for the blues) and hunt bears by May 4th. I bet they’ll close both areas down till then, but, no need to close the blues! Nothing but wilderness. Only part that sucks is more people will be hunting in a shorter time frame, idiots just need to leave it all open!
They openly said they closed the NE units to limit the people who would have to travel there. I think they said 90% of the tag holders weren’t from NE WA. I hope you get to hunt, but don’t expect them to open the Blues because it’s “nothing but wilderness.”
:twocents:
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 02, 2020, 09:51:38 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 02, 2020, 10:35:32 PM
I AgreeStill plenty of time to open it (or keep it open for the blues) and hunt bears by May 4th. I bet they’ll close both areas down till then, but, no need to close the blues! Nothing but wilderness. Only part that sucks is more people will be hunting in a shorter time frame, idiots just need to leave it all open!
They openly said they closed the NE units to limit the people who would have to travel there. I think they said 90% of the tag holders weren’t from NE WA. I hope you get to hunt, but don’t expect them to open the Blues because it’s “nothing but wilderness.”
:twocents:
If very few locals have the tag I would expect to be closed April 15 -may 4 maybe beyond.
Post by: elkrack on April 03, 2020, 11:50:46 AM
May 15th to June 15th, I would take that.
:yeah:
That’s the prime time anyway!
Post by: trophyhunt on April 03, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
The blues are still open Josh, they never closed them. I wish the title of this thread read, "NE spring bear closed". I keep thinking they updated it when I see this pop up.Still plenty of time to open it (or keep it open for the blues) and hunt bears by May 4th. I bet they’ll close both areas down till then, but, no need to close the blues! Nothing but wilderness. Only part that sucks is more people will be hunting in a shorter time frame, idiots just need to leave it all open!
They openly said they closed the NE units to limit the people who would have to travel there. I think they said 90% of the tag holders weren’t from NE WA. I hope you get to hunt, but don’t expect them to open the Blues because it’s “nothing but wilderness.”
:twocents:
Post by: jackelope on April 03, 2020, 12:59:47 PM
The blues are still open Josh, they never closed them. I wish the title of this thread read, "NE spring bear closed". I keep thinking they updated it when I see this pop up.Still plenty of time to open it (or keep it open for the blues) and hunt bears by May 4th. I bet they’ll close both areas down till then, but, no need to close the blues! Nothing but wilderness. Only part that sucks is more people will be hunting in a shorter time frame, idiots just need to leave it all open!
They openly said they closed the NE units to limit the people who would have to travel there. I think they said 90% of the tag holders weren’t from NE WA. I hope you get to hunt, but don’t expect them to open the Blues because it’s “nothing but wilderness.”
:twocents:
Maybe I should have said "don't expect them to keep the Blues units open because it's nothing but wilderness." Regardless of how you look at it, their end goal is to limit traveling and keep people home.
Post by: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 01:00:09 PM
WDFW will come out with any new decision to close units on Monday.The blues are still open Josh, they never closed them. I wish the title of this thread read, "NE spring bear closed". I keep thinking they updated it when I see this pop up.Still plenty of time to open it (or keep it open for the blues) and hunt bears by May 4th. I bet they’ll close both areas down till then, but, no need to close the blues! Nothing but wilderness. Only part that sucks is more people will be hunting in a shorter time frame, idiots just need to leave it all open!
They openly said they closed the NE units to limit the people who would have to travel there. I think they said 90% of the tag holders weren’t from NE WA. I hope you get to hunt, but don’t expect them to open the Blues because it’s “nothing but wilderness.”
:twocents:
Yes as of right now only NE Washington units only units closed.
I would expect more units to close or be closed through may 4 .
Along with turkey/fishing to remain closed.
But until Monday nobody knows.
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 03, 2020, 02:00:41 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 03, 2020, 02:53:22 PM
WDFW Director Kelly Susewind said, "We know many Washingtonians find great solace in spending time on the water or in the wilderness, and we are taking these painful steps only because of the urgent need to protect the health and well-being of our neighbors and communities. We ask for your patience and compliance because there are lives at stake."
Please stay home and stay healthy. You have a role in saving lives in your community and statewide. We wish for you and your friends and family to stay healthy too, so that you can return to the waterways and lands we all value when it's safe to do so.
We anticipate sharing additional fishing and hunting season announcements on Monday, April 6.
More details on state lands extension: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/state-lands-closure-extended-may-4.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 03, 2020, 03:53:48 PM
Post by: ridgefire on April 03, 2020, 04:07:20 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 03, 2020, 04:23:10 PM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248119.msg3338999/topicseen.html#new
It probably won't do any good but hay might as well right.
Heck ask for our points back plus permits if they open.
Ask for extended season.
Whatever you want never hurts to ask ,what's the worse they can say ,NO
Post by: Tenkara on April 03, 2020, 04:23:50 PM
BUT ITS OK TO GO STAND IN LINE AT THE STORE OR THE G DAMN POT SHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, I'M YELLING, THIS IS F' N BULL....You could use a trip to the pot shop by the sound of it . Lol
Post by: trophyhunt on April 03, 2020, 04:33:09 PM
ok, I needed that laugh.BUT ITS OK TO GO STAND IN LINE AT THE STORE OR THE G DAMN POT SHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, I'M YELLING, THIS IS F' N BULL....You could use a trip to the pot shop by the sound of it . Lol
Post by: Jingles on April 03, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
BUT ITS OK TO GO STAND IN LINE AT THE STORE OR THE G DAMN POT SHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, I'M YELLING, THIS IS F' N BULL....
Maybe it isn't because of the people you are going to interact with while hunting but maybe the people you are interacting going to and from. Ok so maybe you won't interact with anyone going to or from but are you the rule or the exception. Or maybe you are the only person going bear hunting.
Life's a bitch and then you die so get over it and suck it up butterfup
Post by: millerwheeler on April 03, 2020, 04:48:11 PM
I agree. It's a bunch of b.s. Looks like their might be a little less shed hunters out there this year. I wonder what the ticket is and wonder if a warden or sheriff would actually write you up or look the other way.
Wonder that myself . It's odd to not be out every weekend looking for sheds hiking, or fishing. I got 1 shed this year well before closure and it pains me not to go but ill.listen for my families well being . But I know ma my aren't and there are people still o social media having a hay day still shedding away
Post by: cem3434 on April 03, 2020, 07:56:35 PM
In accordance with Governor Jay Inslee's extension of the "Stay Home, Stay Healthy" order, all state lands will continue to be closed to the public through May 4.
WDFW Director Kelly Susewind said, "We know many Washingtonians find great solace in spending time on the water or in the wilderness, and we are taking these painful steps only because of the urgent need to protect the health and well-being of our neighbors and communities. We ask for your patience and compliance because there are lives at stake."
Please stay home and stay healthy. You have a role in saving lives in your community and statewide. We wish for you and your friends and family to stay healthy too, so that you can return to the waterways and lands we all value when it's safe to do so.
We anticipate sharing additional fishing and hunting season announcements on Monday, April 6.
More details on state lands extension: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/state-lands-closure-extended-may-4.
So they closed the state lands, but where did they say the seasons were closed?
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 08:05:35 PM
In accordance with Governor Jay Inslee's extension of the "Stay Home, Stay Healthy" order, all state lands will continue to be closed to the public through May 4.
WDFW Director Kelly Susewind said, "We know many Washingtonians find great solace in spending time on the water or in the wilderness, and we are taking these painful steps only because of the urgent need to protect the health and well-being of our neighbors and communities. We ask for your patience and compliance because there are lives at stake."
Please stay home and stay healthy. You have a role in saving lives in your community and statewide. We wish for you and your friends and family to stay healthy too, so that you can return to the waterways and lands we all value when it's safe to do so.
We anticipate sharing additional fishing and hunting season announcements on Monday, April 6.
More details on state lands extension: https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/state-lands-closure-extended-may-4.
So they closed the state lands, but where did they say the seasons were closed?
Its not exactly hard to find. Wdfw home page. Big corona virus link at the top. Click the link and read.
Post by: cem3434 on April 03, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 03, 2020, 08:16:35 PM
Post by: cem3434 on April 03, 2020, 09:00:44 PM
No youre right. Everybody just expects more to get closed, like general spring turkey
Thanks for the clarification.
Post by: dilleytech on April 03, 2020, 09:01:55 PM
I only see where they have closed the NE bear hunts, youth season and all state lands. I thought I read guys were claiming that spring turkey season has been closed already. Maybe I misread it, but that's what I was referring to.
Expect a announcement Monday about fishing and hunting after April 8. It’s not looking good. They are enjoying hitting the easy button so far.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 03, 2020, 09:03:27 PM
My God, do we have to say this real slow? Listen up, I see and deal w more f n people at work than I would bear hunting! I don’t see people bear hunting, and if by chance I do, I don’t get close to them! You might go broke back mountain on guys when you see them in the woods, but I stay away! So, again, I’ll say it, I deal with waaaaaaay more people at work than going hunting. Get it? Or do I need more spacing in between my words????BUT ITS OK TO GO STAND IN LINE AT THE STORE OR THE G DAMN POT SHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, I'M YELLING, THIS IS F' N BULL....
Maybe it isn't because of the people you are going to interact with while hunting but maybe the people you are interacting going to and from. Ok so maybe you won't interact with anyone going to or from but are you the rule or the exception. Or maybe you are the only person going bear hunting.
Life's a bitch and then you die so get over it and suck it up butterfup
Post by: h20hunter on April 03, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Post by: elkh8me on April 04, 2020, 09:25:22 AM
Previous thread i was gonna ask this question in has been regulated so i started another. Thanks, joe
Post by: trophyhunt on April 04, 2020, 09:32:21 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 04, 2020, 09:48:12 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 04, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
Locked for cool down.Unlocked. Keep it civil.
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 05:24:48 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 04, 2020, 05:33:21 PM
Emails can be found here.
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,248119.msg3338999/topicseen.html#new
The meeting to make the decision is Monday ,Let them know before then.
Post by: KFhunter on April 04, 2020, 06:36:52 PM
..and now we see the essential element of a pot shopok, I needed that laugh.BUT ITS OK TO GO STAND IN LINE AT THE STORE OR THE G DAMN POT SHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES, I'M YELLING, THIS IS F' N BULL....You could use a trip to the pot shop by the sound of it . Lol
Lol
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Post by: jackelope on April 05, 2020, 10:44:13 AM
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 11:28:47 AM
The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.well they have suspended over half.And the best half.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Post by: trophyhunt on April 05, 2020, 11:41:39 AM
yes, the other half sucks so they should just leave it open!!!!The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.well they have suspended over half.And the best half.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 11:46:12 AM
I Agreeyes, the other half sucks so they should just leave it open!!!!The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.well they have suspended over half.And the best half.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
I got some more emails to send but not right now I'm too drunk about ready for sleep.
I pissed too man.
I've already sent God knows how many emails
This one I'm gonna say I want my lost time added to next year spring bear it not like they have high harvest rates anyway.Everybody that drawn this year gets tag next year +whatever new draws.
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 11:49:10 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 05, 2020, 11:52:38 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 05, 2020, 11:53:30 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 05, 2020, 11:53:50 AM
Go to bed dude!!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :o
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 11:54:17 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 05, 2020, 11:56:13 AM
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 11:56:41 AM
Post by: Jingles on April 05, 2020, 12:42:30 PM
Bro. It’s 5:00 somewhere.
Not many old enough to remember this one but
"It's happy Hour in Bangkok
All I can find is where state lands, DNR and WDFW lands, are closed did not see any mention of the seasons being closed. So correct me if I am wrong which means instead of hunting public land get permission to hunt private property if you have to get out and hunt that bad.
Post by: Bango skank on April 05, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 05, 2020, 02:03:16 PM
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Post by: Bango skank on April 05, 2020, 03:12:19 PM
Post by: flyguide on April 05, 2020, 08:13:13 PM
My young sons both have Kelly Hill tags, we are hopeful but it's not a WDFW decision. I'm also a pro fly fishing guide, so have a lot to gain with fishing opening back up, BUT again these mandates are coming from DC, to Olympia, and unfortunately all the way to eastern Washington where I live. All we can do is hope for a change in the C19 situation. I agree with all comments and frustrations here, liquor stores have never seen more traffic yet I can't fish. Ridiculous yes. WDFW's decision? Definitely no.
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 08:25:31 PM
Not sure if this has been said, but if the governor mandates action that closes non essential businesses etc. the WDFW doesn't have a choice here. Sounds like some are over estimating their reach. They didnt ask for this situation. They want us to be hunting and fishing.I think they could help out a little bit more.We are talking about 700 tags that most people wait 4-8 years to draw.Its almost like a contract to hunt .Im paying and waiting for my chance,they sent out my permit/contract.They need to step up and honor it ,Lord knows Idaho would.
My young sons both have Kelly Hill tags, we are hopeful but it's not a WDFW decision. I'm also a pro fly fishing guide, so have a lot to gain with fishing opening back up, BUT again these mandates are coming from DC, to Olympia, and unfortunately all the way to eastern Washington where I live. All we can do is hope for a change in the C19 situation. I agree with all comments and frustrations here, liquor stores have never seen more traffic yet I can't fish. Ridiculous yes. WDFW's decision? Definitely no.
Post by: jrebel on April 05, 2020, 08:38:07 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 05, 2020, 08:40:24 PM
Here is one I have been looking at for two years. Finally have the tag and will likely not be able to hunt him.... :bash: :bash: :bash: He is always around in the spring, but I cannot find him in the fall. We have named him Fred. The first pic is this year and other is from last spring. I will likely have to try this fall. Bummed to say the least.He looks like a good one :tup:
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 05, 2020, 08:49:43 PM
Not sure if this has been said, but if the governor mandates action that closes non essential businesses etc. the WDFW doesn't have a choice here. Sounds like some are over estimating their reach. They didnt ask for this situation. They want us to be hunting and fishing.Lots of other states have mandated stay at home orders, and mandated that non essential businesses are closed but no other state has closed fishing seasons completely, nor closed hunting to their own residents. WDFW could have kept any of those seasons opened if they chose
My young sons both have Kelly Hill tags, we are hopeful but it's not a WDFW decision. I'm also a pro fly fishing guide, so have a lot to gain with fishing opening back up, BUT again these mandates are coming from DC, to Olympia, and unfortunately all the way to eastern Washington where I live. All we can do is hope for a change in the C19 situation. I agree with all comments and frustrations here, liquor stores have never seen more traffic yet I can't fish. Ridiculous yes. WDFW's decision? Definitely no.
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Post by: jackelope on April 05, 2020, 08:57:54 PM
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong. Just saying other places are shut down.
Post by: jackelope on April 05, 2020, 09:14:26 PM
The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Here ya go. Click the link.
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 05, 2020, 09:27:11 PM
Just did, no other state listed there has completely closed recreational fishing, there are smaller closures to certain fisheries or waters. Also no other state has closed turkey or bear seasons to residents. Lots of area closures and nonresident closures but no wholesale closures as Washington has done.The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Here ya go. Click the link.
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Post by: jrebel on April 05, 2020, 09:40:43 PM
Just did, no other state listed there has completely closed recreational fishing, there are smaller closures to certain fisheries or waters. Also no other state has closed turkey or bear seasons to residents. Lots of area closures and nonresident closures but no wholesale closures as Washington has done.The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Here ya go. Click the link.
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What are the chances we could get hunting on private land to be allowed??? Lots of private land and lots of bears that need to be shot on private land. Real simple in my eyes....tell spring hunters they need to pack everything they need for their hunt and stay our of local stores. I went to our cabin this week and never stopped to and from. Took everything I needed and stayed. Pretty sure I am not in danger of getting or spreading any crud under those circumstances. :dunno:
Post by: hunter399 on April 06, 2020, 03:47:29 AM
Cause Washington wants us all,broke,and homeless.Poaching will be rampant this fall,some guys won't buy a licence,when there losing there house,car,and can't afford to eat due to virus.Just did, no other state listed there has completely closed recreational fishing, there are smaller closures to certain fisheries or waters. Also no other state has closed turkey or bear seasons to residents. Lots of area closures and nonresident closures but no wholesale closures as Washington has done.The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Here ya go. Click the link.
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Post by: Gunsmoke on April 06, 2020, 06:59:35 AM
. Not everyone has access to private landJust did, no other state listed there has completely closed recreational fishing, there are smaller closures to certain fisheries or waters. Also no other state has closed turkey or bear seasons to residents. Lots of area closures and nonresident closures but no wholesale closures as Washington has done.The Keefer bro’s just shared this on Facebook. I assume it’s reasonably accurate but not 100% as it says Washington cancelled spring bear hunts. They haven’t yet but who knows what the future holds.
https://www.huntressview.com/post/hunting-and-fishing-changes-due-to-covid-19
Here ya go. Click the link.
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What are the chances we could get hunting on private land to be allowed??? Lots of private land and lots of bears that need to be shot on private land. Real simple in my eyes....tell spring hunters they need to pack everything they need for their hunt and stay our of local stores. I went to our cabin this week and never stopped to and from. Took everything I needed and stayed. Pretty sure I am not in danger of getting or spreading any crud under those circumstances. :dunno:
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 06, 2020, 06:07:32 PM
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
1111 Washington St. SE, Olympia, WA 98501
http://wdfw.wa.gov/
April 6, 2020
Media information: publicaffairs@dfw.wa.gov
Fishing information: fishpgm@dfw.wa.gov
Hunting information: wildthing@dfw.wa.gov
Fishing, shellfish harvesting, and some hunting postponed
WDFW acts to protect Washington communities from the spread of COVID-19
OLYMPIA - The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) today announced that recreational fishing, shellfish harvesting and spring turkey and bear hunting seasons will be delayed in an effort to control the spread of COVID-19.
The decision follows a Friday announcement that all state land and boat ramp closures would extend to May 4, 2020 to coincide with Gov. Jay Inslee's extension of the Stay Home, Stay Healthy order.
WDFW expects most recreation activities to remain closed through the Stay Home, Stay Healthy order. The department will reevaluate specific hunting, fishing, shellfish harvesting, public land, and boat ramp closures as new information becomes available from public health officials.
"Local public health authorities have relayed to us their concerns regarding the risk that hunting, fishing and recreational travel poses to their communities right now," said WDFW Director Kelly Susewind. "With the support of the Governor's office we're asking people to put their recreation plans on pause while we work together to get this situation under control."
Director Susewind noted that some individuals may be able to enjoy these activities without risky interactions, but many cannot. He asks everyone to be patient for the health of all Washingtonians.
These newly extended closures include all recreational fishing and shellfish harvesting, whether on public or private lands, and the spring bear hunts that would have started on April 1 as well as the April 4 and 5 youth turkey hunt. In addition, the department will postpone the spring bear and turkey season opening days, which were previously scheduled to open on April 15. The department made the closure decisions after consulting with local health departments.
While some recreational fishing opportunities exist year-round, the lowland lakes trout season opener, previously scheduled for April 25, is one of the most celebrated angling days of the year. The recreational halibut seasons scheduled to open on April 16 in Marine Areas 6-10 and Areas 1-5 on April 30 will be delayed. Recreational harvesting of spot shrimp in Marine Areas 5-7 and 12 will also be delayed. When fishing seasons do open, anglers should be prepared to practice proper social distancing and avoid the gatherings that characteristically define opening day for so many.
A number of April razor clam digs are cancelled, though the department will assess the ability for razor clamming and other shellfish seasons to resume in May. According to Larry Phillips, WDFW Coastal Region Director, "We had an excellent season planned, with a great number of days available for razor clam digging. If we are not able to reopen, clam diggers can still look forward to larger clams next year."
If the department is able to open spring bear and turkey seasons on May 4, spring bear hunters would still have until May 31 or June 15, depending on the location, to use their permits before the intended season closure dates for those hunts. Likewise, spring turkey hunters would have 28 days of hunting during the spring season, plus, most likely, a robust fall season.
Hunting application deadlines for the rest of the year have not changed, yet the deadline for sealing bobcat and river otter pelts that were harvested during the 2019-2020 season has been extended to July 20.
Refunds for licenses and permits, if initiated before opening day, are available. Hunters can also get their points reinstated for spring bear season if requested prior to the start of the season.
The department does not regulate shed antler hunting, yet wants to remind the public that this activity is not allowed on state lands while the closures are in place.
For the latest updates on WDFW's coronavirus response updates, visit wdfw.wa.gov/about/covid-19-updates.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is the state agency tasked with preserving, protecting, and perpetuating fish, wildlife, and ecosystems, while providing sustainable fishing, hunting, and other recreation opportunities.
Persons with disabilities who need to receive this information in an alternative format or who need reasonable accommodations to participate in WDFW-sponsored public meetings or other activities may contact Dolores Noyes by phone (360-902-2349), TTY (360-902-2207), or email (dolores.noyes@dfw.wa.gov). For more information, see http://wdfw.wa.gov/accessibility/reasonable_request.html.
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Post by: Firetwin3 on April 06, 2020, 06:21:14 PM
Does that mean that all of us with an April 1st opener, despite April 6th announcement, just got screwed out of all of our points?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 06, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
"Hunters can also get their points reinstated for spring bear season if requested prior to the start of the season."The season hasnt started yet so no.
Does that mean that all of us with an April 1st opener, despite April 6th announcement, just got screwed out of all of our points?
You would just need to request points back before the mew opening day if they open it.
Post by: jason4429 on April 06, 2020, 07:40:52 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 06, 2020, 08:12:48 PM
What about our application fee and bear tag? Will I get reimbursement for that?If you get your points back they will add a point for this year also.
They were doing a refund if all you bought was the bear tag (no combos) and werent planning to hunt the falls season. Read the emails that are posted up.
Post by: hunter399 on April 06, 2020, 08:15:35 PM
Post by: emac on April 06, 2020, 08:18:07 PM
What about our application fee and bear tag? Will I get reimbursement for that?Should all of us that didn't draw get reimbursed for our application fee and tags also?
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Post by: Bango skank on April 06, 2020, 08:22:27 PM
What about our application fee and bear tag? Will I get reimbursement for that?
Will you get your app fee back, really? You want to forfeit your point?
Post by: hunter399 on April 06, 2020, 08:52:59 PM
Is just another great example of Seattle running the entire state.
Post by: Bango skank on April 06, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Spring bear/turkey/fishing closed
Is just another great example of Seattle running the entire state.
Look on the bright side, thats where most of the flu problem is. If it blows up big time, washington may be able to elect a republican governor.
Post by: mossback636 on April 06, 2020, 10:31:27 PM
Spring bear/turkey/fishing closed:yeah:
Is just another great example of Seattle running the entire state.
Post by: TriggerMike on April 07, 2020, 08:39:37 AM
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 07, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
Post by: cem3434 on April 07, 2020, 08:33:18 PM
There's absolutely no reason to request your point back right now. If you do and they open it next month, you're SOL. If they don't open it you get the point back anyway.
WDFW has already closed the season and convinced everyone that it was in our best interest to do so. You guys are smoking dope if you think they are going to reopen any of the spring seasons this year.
Post by: Bango skank on April 07, 2020, 08:37:43 PM
There's absolutely no reason to request your point back right now. If you do and they open it next month, you're SOL. If they don't open it you get the point back anyway.
WDFW has already closed the season and convinced everyone that it was in our best interest to do so. You guys are smoking dope if you think they are going to reopen any of the spring seasons this year.
I agree. Dont just request point restoration, go for license reimbursement. Hit them in the pocketbook, only way to wake them up. You could always repurchase your bear license july 31 if things get back to normal. As for turkey hunters, get your money back. We all know the spring season is the big show. Only way to wake wdfw up is to make them open up the coffers and pay everybody back.
Post by: hunter399 on April 07, 2020, 08:41:06 PM
I do agree with ya .The only way the governor will wake up is to lose money.There's absolutely no reason to request your point back right now. If you do and they open it next month, you're SOL. If they don't open it you get the point back anyway.
WDFW has already closed the season and convinced everyone that it was in our best interest to do so. You guys are smoking dope if you think they are going to reopen any of the spring seasons this year.
I agree. Dont just request point restoration, go for license reimbursement. Hit them in the pocketbook, only way to wake them up. You could always repurchase your bear license july 31 if things get back to normal. As for turkey hunters, get your money back. We all know the spring season is the big show. Only way to wake wdfw up is to make them open up the coffers and pay everybody back.
If you bought your bear tag with a combo package they won't refund which is me.
Post by: ne kid on April 07, 2020, 08:45:39 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 15, 2020, 07:21:25 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 15, 2020, 07:51:57 PM
I'm kinda waiting it out to see what happens may 4,but we all have a pretty good idea of what will happen.But depending on the extension come may 4 .Pretty much if it don't open I will just get my points back .Pray that common sense will prevail and they open it up after May 4th ! Too many other activities that are allowed while a very low percentage of people are messed with.
Post by: hunter399 on April 15, 2020, 08:29:05 PM
I've been praying,hoping.I'm kinda waiting it out to see what happens may 4,but we all have a pretty good idea of what will happen.But depending on the extension come may 4 .Pretty much if it don't open I will just get my points back .Pray that common sense will prevail and they open it up after May 4th ! Too many other activities that are allowed while a very low percentage of people are messed with.
Pissed me off ,participation is like half on these hunt with very low harvest.Half the people drawn don't even hunt there permit.WDFW sit and say 90% are coming from the west side.
But right on harvest reports where they asked if you hunted it half the people said no.So only about 45 % are even coming over to hunt.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 16, 2020, 07:31:07 AM
Post by: HoytHunter24 on April 16, 2020, 05:12:42 PM
However, I will still be driving over the same weekends I would have hunted in order to scout hoping I draw the tag again next year!
Post by: hunter399 on April 16, 2020, 05:17:26 PM
After watching Inslee’s speech the other day I am almost certain it will be extended and bear will be cancelled. It sucks.Good for you ,this crap is depressing as @$!:#
However, I will still be driving over the same weekends I would have hunted in order to scout hoping I draw the tag again next year!
It's good to get out and get some fresh air .May luck be with ya ,maybe find some sheds or something.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 16, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
Post by: Tracker0721 on April 16, 2020, 07:30:09 PM
Post by: spookgus on April 16, 2020, 08:01:29 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 16, 2020, 08:37:15 PM
Yup, I’m heading over to scout, hang cameras and look for bone!! I just want to be in those mountains one way or another!Yup I may be out hanging another tomorrow haven't decided yet ,but I need too.
Post by: bearmanric on April 16, 2020, 08:45:52 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 16, 2020, 08:47:33 PM
June 4th now.I'm not going out June 4 sorry I will just get my points .Im not wasting my points on a two week season no way.
Post by: 92xj on April 16, 2020, 08:54:22 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 16, 2020, 09:02:27 PM
You will see my points in next year's draw.
If it don't open by may 5, I'm out .This is the first permit I've ever drawn and I've lived here my whole life but only have been hitting points for about 5 years so not in the game very long.
But for a first draw what a peice of $@!#.
Post by: Bango skank on April 16, 2020, 09:04:10 PM
I haven’t seen any bears in 101 yet but the roads are thawing out! By mid may when you guys can come fill tags it’ll be perfect. Keep your hopes up gents!
"Thawing out" a.k.a. "turning to mud"
Post by: Tracker0721 on April 16, 2020, 09:05:23 PM
Post by: Bango skank on April 16, 2020, 09:06:29 PM
Mud that’s deeper than my tires... I was trying to be positive haha
I was just kidding. The roads are thawed out boys, get scouting, go explore! ;)
Post by: hunter399 on April 16, 2020, 09:22:19 PM
Alot of other hunting related stuff that I just don't care to do.
:twocents:
Post by: elkh8me on April 17, 2020, 10:28:09 AM
Post by: TriggerMike on April 17, 2020, 10:39:54 AM
Michigan governor just signed executive order to open outdoor activities, such as fishing and golfing, after they had large protests last couple days at the Michigan capitol. Apparently sending emails didnt work in Michigan either...
Well if that psycho lady can open up hunting and fishing then Inslee better get on it!
Post by: Goshawk on April 17, 2020, 12:01:52 PM
Post by: elkh8me on April 19, 2020, 09:17:58 AM
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/reopened-seattle-parks-farmers-markets-give-hint-of-normalcy-amid-shutdown
:bash:
Post by: jrebel on April 19, 2020, 09:26:00 AM
Post by: j_h_nimrod on April 19, 2020, 10:33:32 AM
I emailed my representatives and bcc'd all other 95 or so in the state. If anyone wants the email list, I'm happy to sent it to you so you don't have to copy and paste 100 email addreses.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Please send it to me and I will put it to good use. I have a daughter that drew this year and she is very disappointed we are not out there already. A few hunters making their way around the state will have much less of an effect than all the Tesla driving I-5 tourists I saw out yesterday. In a small community it is pretty easy to tell the out-of-towners and there are plenty around still.
Post by: KFhunter on April 19, 2020, 10:41:16 AM
I guess I'm not seeing the big picture. It's not like bear hunting is a shoulder to shoulder, 50 person line waiting to take a shot.
WDFW closed spring bear because over 90% of the successful applicants were from the west side and would be crossing the state to the eastside to hunt, and with that hitting up all the small grocery stores, gas stations, ordering out food, buying up ice and possibly finding themselves sick 3 days into a hunt - now deep in the woods and needing medical help or even evacuation or SAR. The county pay's for SAR operations.
Same for Turkey
I can understand the decision and may even agree with it to some degree, although I like Idaho's approach better (don't stop in local stores, pack what you need from home) but I'm under no illusions that request would be violated in most instances. We all forget to pack stuff, We all need to get gas or more ice etc
Post by: jrebel on April 19, 2020, 10:47:01 AM
I guess I'm not seeing the big picture. It's not like bear hunting is a shoulder to shoulder, 50 person line waiting to take a shot.
WDFW closed spring bear because over 90% of the successful applicants were from the west side and would be crossing the state to the eastside to hunt, and with that hitting up all the small grocery stores, gas stations, ordering out food, buying up ice and possibly finding themselves sick 3 days into a hunt - now deep in the woods and needing medical help or even evacuation or SAR. The county pay's for SAR operations.
Same for Turkey
I can understand the decision and may even agree with it to some degree, although I like Idaho's approach better (don't stop in local stores, pack what you need from home) but I'm under no illusions that request would be violated in most instances. We all forget to pack stuff, We all need to get gas or more ice etc
I originally was OK with the decision due to travel concerns. Reality is people are traveling anyway. The east side communities are full of west side folks getting away from the craziness. With all the travel....we have not seen spikes in our rural communities like we believed we would. Travel smart...travel safe....GO HUNT!!
Post by: bearpaw on April 19, 2020, 11:05:43 AM
If you are looking for something to do with bear, turkey and fishing closed here you go...seattle parks and farmers market reopen
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/reopened-seattle-parks-farmers-markets-give-hint-of-normalcy-amid-shutdown
:bash:
This is specifically the hypocrisy that really makes me mad about the whole situation! GGGGRRRRRRRR >:(
Post by: KFhunter on April 19, 2020, 11:05:45 AM
I guess I'm not seeing the big picture. It's not like bear hunting is a shoulder to shoulder, 50 person line waiting to take a shot.
WDFW closed spring bear because over 90% of the successful applicants were from the west side and would be crossing the state to the eastside to hunt, and with that hitting up all the small grocery stores, gas stations, ordering out food, buying up ice and possibly finding themselves sick 3 days into a hunt - now deep in the woods and needing medical help or even evacuation or SAR. The county pay's for SAR operations.
Same for Turkey
I can understand the decision and may even agree with it to some degree, although I like Idaho's approach better (don't stop in local stores, pack what you need from home) but I'm under no illusions that request would be violated in most instances. We all forget to pack stuff, We all need to get gas or more ice etc
I originally was OK with the decision due to travel concerns. Reality is people are traveling anyway. The east side communities are full of west side folks getting away from the craziness. With all the travel....we have not seen spikes in our rural communities like we believed we would. Travel smart...travel safe....GO HUNT!!
Ya, I agree. This decision is getting a little long in the tooth and needs to be lifted soon. I would ask that people limit their exposure and be careful where they stop, just grabbing a handle on an ice chest at a gas station buying ice could pass it to the next guy getting ice. It's that simple.
Post by: hunter399 on April 19, 2020, 11:30:46 AM
I get the logicI guess I'm not seeing the big picture. It's not like bear hunting is a shoulder to shoulder, 50 person line waiting to take a shot.
WDFW closed spring bear because over 90% of the successful applicants were from the west side and would be crossing the state to the eastside to hunt, and with that hitting up all the small grocery stores, gas stations, ordering out food, buying up ice and possibly finding themselves sick 3 days into a hunt - now deep in the woods and needing medical help or even evacuation or SAR. The county pay's for SAR operations.
Same for Turkey
I can understand the decision and may even agree with it to some degree, although I like Idaho's approach better (don't stop in local stores, pack what you need from home) but I'm under no illusions that request would be violated in most instances. We all forget to pack stuff, We all need to get gas or more ice etc
I originally was OK with the decision due to travel concerns. Reality is people are traveling anyway. The east side communities are full of west side folks getting away from the craziness. With all the travel....we have not seen spikes in our rural communities like we believed we would. Travel smart...travel safe....GO HUNT!!
Ya, I agree. This decision is getting a little long in the tooth and needs to be lifted soon. I would ask that people limit their exposure and be careful where they stop, just grabbing a handle on an ice chest at a gas station buying ice could pass it to the next guy getting ice. It's that simple.
But if nobody is complying let's say you have 5 guy from the coast that has touch that handle in 3 day, your saying it's the 6th guy bear hunter that's gonna get you sick.Cause it's getting touched one way or another.With no compliance.Longer the shutdown less compliance.
Post by: trophyhunt on April 19, 2020, 11:35:10 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on April 19, 2020, 11:36:28 AM
Post by: JeffRaines on April 19, 2020, 12:31:40 PM
I guess I'm not seeing the big picture. It's not like bear hunting is a shoulder to shoulder, 50 person line waiting to take a shot.
WDFW closed spring bear because over 90% of the successful applicants were from the west side and would be crossing the state to the eastside to hunt, and with that hitting up all the small grocery stores, gas stations, ordering out food, buying up ice and possibly finding themselves sick 3 days into a hunt - now deep in the woods and needing medical help or even evacuation or SAR. The county pay's for SAR operations.
Same for Turkey
I can understand the decision and may even agree with it to some degree, although I like Idaho's approach better (don't stop in local stores, pack what you need from home) but I'm under no illusions that request would be violated in most instances. We all forget to pack stuff, We all need to get gas or more ice etc
I originally was OK with the decision due to travel concerns. Reality is people are traveling anyway. The east side communities are full of west side folks getting away from the craziness. With all the travel....we have not seen spikes in our rural communities like we believed we would. Travel smart...travel safe....GO HUNT!!
Ya, I agree. This decision is getting a little long in the tooth and needs to be lifted soon. I would ask that people limit their exposure and be careful where they stop, just grabbing a handle on an ice chest at a gas station buying ice could pass it to the next guy getting ice. It's that simple.
I agree with all this. People aren’t staying home. Doesn’t matter if it’s not advised, illegal, whatever the case may be. Look at the people still hunting in Idaho even though Idaho says that travel for recreation of any sort isn’t advised/allowed.
Instead of pushing for closures, we should be pushing for people to be responsible about their travels. Try to put it off if you can, if you can’t then here’s a list of things you should be doing to keep yourself and others safe.
Hopefully some of these restrictions start being lifted in May.
Post by: buckfvr on April 19, 2020, 02:35:41 PM
Post by: jrebel on April 19, 2020, 02:43:04 PM
Even though so many guys are OK with increasing their risk, its still not OK to increase mine or anyone elses. Bored ?? Tough spit, grow up/manup.
You stay home, wear your gloves / mask and gown, don't go out and be a responsible person....unlike the rest of us....you will be fine. Stop being so selfish to think you are the only one that matters.
I said the same thing you did with a little spin. You control your risk assessment and safety.....not me....so you make choices that affect you and don't tell me how to live. I can travel without any more risk than going to work....matter of fact, less risk to both you and me. :tup:
Post by: trophyhunt on April 19, 2020, 04:45:21 PM
amen brother!!!!!!!!!!Even though so many guys are OK with increasing their risk, its still not OK to increase mine or anyone elses. Bored ?? Tough spit, grow up/manup.
You stay home, wear your gloves / mask and gown, don't go out and be a responsible person....unlike the rest of us....you will be fine. Stop being so selfish to think you are the only one that matters.
I said the same thing you did with a little spin. You control your risk assessment and safety.....not me....so you make choices that affect you and don't tell me how to live. I can travel without any more risk than going to work....matter of fact, less risk to both you and me. :tup:
Post by: buckfvr on April 19, 2020, 05:56:38 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 19, 2020, 06:46:25 PM
Post by: cem3434 on April 20, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
A bunch of you guys sound like spoiled entitled children....piss and moan like a bunch of self centered pukes. Im just trying to get through this doing as they ask. Im not the one threatening to do as I please regardless how it affects others.
Your comments are pretty self centered and your arguments are laughable at best. Re-read Jrebel's post and maybe you will get it. If your entire argument is the government to me to do x so I did x then you have ways more problems then us potentially coming in contact with you.
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 20, 2020, 09:28:27 PM
Post by: h20hunter on April 20, 2020, 09:29:32 PM