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Title: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 12:53:04 PM
So I got drawn for multi season elk. I went to the website and bought my tag, and bought into a bunch of drawings I want to enter. After checkout, I get a e-mail.

It says that do to covid19. The state will not be mailing any tags or catch record cards and use the link provided to print your tag or catch record card. Then it goes on to say that you will only get one attempt at printing the tag, if there are any issues you will have to go to a dealer and buy a replacement tag. What the heck. The state charged me a $7.50 dealer fee to mail me tags, and now they won't. Plus I don't what to risk having to buy a replacement multi season elk of the printer messes up. My printer only does black and white with a gray scale.... I don't know how there tag will print like that, or if it will require color? Does anyone know? Or if it comes out in a odd scale when I print it... Just I hate to use a one time link on a $180 tag. I am so ticked at WDFW right now..... No where on the site when I bought my tags did they say ANYTHING about me having to print my own tags with a one time link....

Has anyone printed there own tags on a home printer? Black and white how did it go? Any tips or tricks? If I would have known this going in, I would have went to a dealer.... grrrrrrr so ticked.... Now I am going to have a sheet of paper to try and keep in good enough shape while hunting all season... Keeping it dry and readable should be fun.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: birddogdad on April 24, 2020, 12:54:18 PM
ran by this the other day , was wondering when people were going to start asking about the "FEE" with no action....
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Stein on April 24, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
Instead of sending it to your printer, "print" it to .pdf file and save it on your computer.  Then, you can do whatever you want and if your printer jams you can do it again.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: pbg on April 24, 2020, 12:58:59 PM
Funny how backwards this state is, Montana was having you print your own tags also but Because of Covid19 they are now printing your tags and sending them to you
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 01:08:18 PM
Instead of sending it to your printer, "print" it to .pdf file and save it on your computer.  Then, you can do whatever you want and if your printer jams you can do it again.

I am not sure how there link works, and I am nervous to click on it, if it's a one time thing. Plus I have never taken a print link and saved it to a .pdf heck of a first time to learn. I am tempted to call my credit card and reverse charges for dishonesty. They aren't providing the service they charged a fee for, and they never stated they where doing this, my printing them on a one time link thing should have been disclosed. I am so ticked I am about done with WDFW.... ever getting one red cent from me. So mad I could spit. Hope someone from WDFW sees this..... This is fraud.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:16:41 PM
I had to do a few the other day before selecting apps. When I got to the payment page it said what you are describing and I just opened and printed them no big deal.
They are coded and time stamped when you print them so if anyone tries to do bulk printing they will know about it.

The funny thing is they charge the fees then don’t do anything. The big factor is going to be it says these paper tags are good till end of the season or until wdfw resumes! So if they start back up before hunting season I think they will make us turn in the paper tags and get printed licenses and possibly pay more fees. 
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:19:03 PM
I printed mine a couple days ago with no issue. Far as I can tell I had to go that route to purchase points as I don't think anywhere is open to buy from.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Bob33 on April 24, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
Do you have to print them after purchase? Seems like that should be an option, especially if they will be replaced once WDFW reopens.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: buglebrush on April 24, 2020, 01:22:35 PM
WDFW being incompetent and charging us for their incompetence like usual.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:25:23 PM
Yes print after purchase says one time chance to print or you will have to do duplicate tags and get charged for it if you fail to print.

Then in the next breath they say good tell the end of the year or wdfw opens. So that makes me think with that wording if they open then they won’t be good and we will have to get regular tags printed. Probably for a few to.

Really a pain if that is the case and already bad they are charging fees when they are not doing anything like printing or mailing tags.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 01:27:34 PM
 
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Really a pain if that is the case and already bad they are charging fees when they are not doing anything like printing or mailing tags.

Well they have to charge the fee, that's just part of buying your licenses online. You pay the same fee no matter where you buy your licenses.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:28:08 PM
They even call them temporary tags in the wording. Really frustrating I’m ok with printing them but not getting charged and having to waste time to replace them and probably get hit with more fees to get the real tags”””
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:29:37 PM
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Really a pain if that is the case and already bad they are charging fees when they are not doing anything like printing or mailing tags.

Well they have to charge the fee, that's just part of buying your licenses online. You pay the same fee no matter where you buy your licenses.

Yes you get charged but both options print or print and mail you your tags.
There is nothing for the “dealer”to do if they are not printing or mailing so there should be no fee.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 01:31:16 PM
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Really a pain if that is the case and already bad they are charging fees when they are not doing anything like printing or mailing tags.

Well they have to charge the fee, that's just part of buying your licenses online. You pay the same fee no matter where you buy your licenses.

Yes you get charged but both options print or print and mail you your tags.
There is nothing for the “dealer”to do if they are not printing or mailing so there should be no fee.

I thought it was just tags we were having to print at home. Aren't they still mailing the license?
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:34:42 PM
Nope, print license too :yike:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:35:23 PM
It's also enormous lol
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 01:35:53 PM
I think everyone should take a deep breath. It's no secret that most WDFW office employees are working mobily from their homes. Maybe instead of ASSUMING they will charge an additional fee to trade in paper tags, maybe an email or a phone call for clarification  :dunno:


With that said, my Idaho deer tag came in the mail yesterday  :peep:




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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
May send her through the laminater and put it on a lanyard around my neck
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 01:36:39 PM
Well they also normally mail the WDFW vehicle access pass plus the thing you use to hang it on your rear view mirror. So what about that?
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:38:02 PM
Printed as well, says place on dash
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 01:38:42 PM
This is a fine time to bring up paperless tags. No reason that in the year 2020 we can't punch tags on a phone app.  Have paper tags for those who want them but I'd sure love to have it all mobile and save me a quart ziplock bag of space in my pack with half a dozen freaking plastic envelopes of licenses :twocents:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 01:40:14 PM
Hmmm that makes more questions.

   So in typical WDFW web site fashion. I placed my order gave credit card info, submitted order and then got the Oh Deer message, that there was a problem and there web site was frozen. So I left and went to my e-mail and there was a message about my order with a link to print my tags. It also had the message that, I could use the link if I hadn't done it at check out. Since there thing crashed at my checkout... hmmm wonder if the link will even work? But don't want to click on it till I learn some more about this. Makes me wonder.

   So they are temp tags? And I am going to have to pay a fee to get real tags when WDFW re opens? They didn't disclose that, sounds like that's said on the tags when you use the link to go print them. Sounds like a bad way to disclose that.

    If they are temp tags and I am going to have to turn them in when WDFW reopens. Why not wait to print them, till the season started, or they reopen and mail tags. But I have a hunch that come September that link isn't going to still work. Hmmmm I shouldn't have to print them till I need them, if they are going to be open to mail real tags latter. This is just looking like more and more of a mess to me. My bet is if they are still closed when the season starts they will cancel the season.... like they have done with spring bear and fishing.

I e-mailed them a question about how I can get my tags that they charged a fee to deliver, or cancel the web order and I will go to a dealer so I can get real tags. Right now I am waiting for a reply.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:42:35 PM
It would be handy. I had rite in rain paper to but didn't think to print on it. Had a few barley pops I was just happy enough to get them printed and get the special hunts paid for without crashing it
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 01:45:26 PM
My license says temporary but the tags do not.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:55:25 PM
I think everyone should take a deep breath. It's no secret that most WDFW office employees are working mobily from their homes. Maybe instead of ASSUMING they will charge an additional fee to trade in paper tags, maybe an email or a phone call for clarification  :dunno:

Even if they do not charge. They have already made it clear they are temporary and it’s going to be a waste of our time to have to mail them the printed ones, to get them replaced. Even for free. Or give us the option to going to a dealer another waste of time and printing them. Which will probably have a fee for said dealer printing them. There is no reason these tags and licenses we print should not be valid.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 01:56:16 PM
To the guys that have printed them. Are they black and white? Will they print gray scale? Or are they color? Knowing WDFW I could see them do them in greens reds and blues and then when you print gray scale you can't read half of it..... that's something I am worried about with my old printer. Plus there system crashing, I have 2 tags to print. Deer and multi elk and I don't want to have to buy them again... lol buying those tags twice, it would then be cheaper to just buy a tag in another state with better odds of filling it.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 01:58:19 PM
It would just be a duplicate fee for re printing. Not having to pay the license cost again if you didn’t get them to print.

I have a fancy printer and scanner and it printed them in black and white.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 02:05:13 PM
I think everyone should take a deep breath. It's no secret that most WDFW office employees are working mobily from their homes. Maybe instead of ASSUMING they will charge an additional fee to trade in paper tags, maybe an email or a phone call for clarification  :dunno:

Even if they do not charge. They have already made it clear they are temporary and it’s going to be a waste of our time to have to mail them the printed ones, to get them replaced. Even for free. Or give us the option to going to a dealer another waste of time and printing them. Which will probably have a fee for said dealer printing them. There is no reason these tags and licenses we print should not be valid.
you don't think they will just mail the originals once they get back in the office :dunno: seems like what would happen since the paper ones won't actually be good for anything. WDFW does some screwy things but I think everyone is jumping the gun a bit here :twocents:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
I do not. Have you ever had a regular deer tag in your pocket then drew a multi tag? You have to surrender the other tag to them or a dealer to get the new tag. I do not think they will let people retain a paper tag in fear of people trying to use both.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 02:14:43 PM
Just got done buying deer and elk licenses at a dealer for my daughter and myself. No problem. Not even that expensive- $127 total for both of us.

And no I didn't wear a mask.

I'd suggest everyone do the same. Otherwise the WDFW will be overwhelmed when they do get back to work in a couple weeks with mailing out tags and licenses.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: B4noon on April 24, 2020, 02:15:18 PM
Just helped a buddy go through the process yesterday after printing tags I called wdfw out of curiosity and the gal assured me that as soon as they got back to a more normal work situation that they would start printing and mailing all licenses and tags that were bought during this time frame at no additional charge she wasn’t sure when but was thinking by June should have originals in hand
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 02:16:52 PM
Just helped a buddy go through the process yesterday after printing tags I called wdfw out of curiosity and the gal assured me that as soon as they got back to a more normal work situation that they would start printing and mailing all licenses and tags that were bought during this time frame at no additional charge she wasn’t sure when but was thinking by June should have originals in hand

Right on
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: baldopepper on April 24, 2020, 02:17:57 PM
Just saved mine to a PDF file on my phone, downloaded an app to let me print from my phone and printed. Guess I could print all I wanted at this point. Black and White on plain paper, not sure how you'd attach to an animal and sure it wouldn't last long if you did. I'm sure they'll have a regular replacement tag at some point as obviously I could print out as many of these as I wanted and just keep shooting until actually checked and I suppose have the kill on record. I'm no tech wizard so saving and printing is not hard
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 02:18:27 PM
Just helped a buddy go through the process yesterday after printing tags I called wdfw out of curiosity and the gal assured me that as soon as they got back to a more normal work situation that they would start printing and mailing all licenses and tags that were bought during this time frame at no additional charge she wasn’t sure when but was thinking by June should have originals in hand
imagine that   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 02:26:49 PM
Just helped a buddy go through the process yesterday after printing tags I called wdfw out of curiosity and the gal assured me that as soon as they got back to a more normal work situation that they would start printing and mailing all licenses and tags that were bought during this time frame at no additional charge she wasn’t sure when but was thinking by June should have originals in hand
imagine that   :chuckle:

Thanks that's good to hear. I am just going to wait to print so I don't have something that I minght have to surrender, to see if I get a tag in the mail in June. Thanks guys, I figured some guys on hear would know what's up.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Stein on April 24, 2020, 02:40:54 PM
This is a fine time to bring up paperless tags. No reason that in the year 2020 we can't punch tags on a phone app.  Have paper tags for those who want them but I'd sure love to have it all mobile and save me a quart ziplock bag of space in my pack with half a dozen freaking plastic envelopes of licenses :twocents:

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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 03:25:08 PM
I just got a reply from WDFW.

Thank you for contacting the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.

 

The e-mail allows you the opportunity to print your temporary licenses in place of the permanent ones we will send you. You do not have to print them but it is offered in case anyone has a fishing license of small game license they can use once everything opens. These are fine to be printed in grayscale and, as I said, they are temporary. You will receive official tags and your license in the mail.

 

The dealer fee is not a fee to mail you the tags. It is a fee collected by the dealer for processing the purchase. If you go to any in-person dealer, they are going to charge you the same fee.

 

Thank You,

So it sounds like they will be mailing everyone real tags once they open back up. Totally dodged my complaint about charging a fee, and then not providing a tag. But sounds like that's a non issue if they are going to be mailing tags latter. I had said in my e-mail that if I would have known about the printing I would have went to a dealer and have gotten a real tag and lic. That they where charging a fee on there site and then not providing the tag.  I guess there view is it's a fee to charge you a fee.... and not to actually do or provide anything more than charge you. I always viewed it as a fee to provide a service (aka provide me with some kinda lic or tag... silly me for thinking that).
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 03:34:13 PM
The dealer fee charged online is pretty much only because they don't want to be cheaper than the dealers and take away business from them.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 03:37:31 PM
Bimart or cabelas is gonna charge you the same exact fee for the same exact license. When wdfw goes back to their office and mails out your tags and licenses. Theres no additional fees.

Every single state charges a processing/transaction fee. It's not new and it's not out of the norm
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: ibuyre on April 24, 2020, 03:39:15 PM
The dealer fee charged online is pretty much only because they don't want to be cheaper than the dealers and take away business from them.

I get that. My point is, if they charge a fee they should provide a tag or lic (a dealer does).
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 04:01:47 PM
The dealer fee charged online is pretty much only because they don't want to be cheaper than the dealers and take away business from them.

I get that. My point is, if they charge a fee they should provide a tag or lic (a dealer does).

Well yes, and it sounds like they are. Just a little delayed due to everything being shut down. I do appreciate your post though, as I was about ready to buy mine online, but instead drove over to the license dealer and purchased there.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Stein on April 24, 2020, 04:44:14 PM
Let’s be careful what we wish for.  It’s a move for WA to allow this, we can always go in and get a printed copy.  Print it, take a pic, whatever you need to do.

I’m no fan of many WDFW things, but this is helpful.


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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 04:46:11 PM
Phone app  :peep:




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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: grundy53 on April 24, 2020, 04:48:32 PM
I bought all my stuff awhile ago. I didn't declare for deer and elk yet so no tags for those. But they only sent my license. No Cougar or bear tag.

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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: grundy53 on April 24, 2020, 04:48:49 PM
Phone app  :peep:




 :chuckle:
Lol. That would be too easy.

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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 24, 2020, 04:51:24 PM
Printed mine and there aren't any holes to tie it on with. Cheap printer paper.  :bash:  What now? Duct tape?   :dunno:   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: MADMAX on April 24, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
Zip lock bag
Electrical tape
Not a big deal
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 24, 2020, 05:12:18 PM
Printed mine and there aren't any holes to tie it on with. Cheap printer paper.  :bash:  What now? Duct tape?   :dunno:   :chuckle:
won't be an issue because they are mailing your tags when the office opens back up.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 24, 2020, 05:15:11 PM
Man you guys are in a hurry. Im going to wait, watch and see what happens in the next couple of weeks. Besides it doesn't sound like online buying and at home printing is that much fun.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: grundy53 on April 24, 2020, 05:16:36 PM
Printed mine and there aren't any holes to tie it on with. Cheap printer paper.  :bash:  What now? Duct tape?   :dunno:   :chuckle:
You don't have anything in your house that can make a hole in paper?

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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 24, 2020, 05:42:52 PM
Printed mine and there aren't any holes to tie it on with. Cheap printer paper.  :bash:  What now? Duct tape?   :dunno:   :chuckle:

Lol does your printer have a hole puncher built in it
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 24, 2020, 05:58:16 PM
Im gonna take a screenshot on my phone...
that way i can drill a hole in it and attach it.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: bobcat on April 24, 2020, 06:03:35 PM
Never knew people used those holes in the tags.   :dunno:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Shawn Ryan on April 24, 2020, 07:02:52 PM
Phone app.  In OR, you can use the phone app for license and tags, but you have to write all the information on paper or tape and affix it to the animal.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 24, 2020, 07:20:23 PM
Easy guys, just having fun.  My only beef is not drawing MS tags,  I I had to pick a tag to put in for draws.  5 point on MS elk, had the tag 3 out of 4 years running.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 24, 2020, 07:25:23 PM
Guess we just have to wait and see if wdfw sticks to there plans or changes them. Which if memory serves me right happened real recently to plenty of of people on here. It will be like Xmas morning if tags shows up and I don’t have to do anything but open the letter up and shove them in my wallet  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: MADMAX on April 24, 2020, 07:47:56 PM
Funny how backwards this state is, Montana was having you print your own tags also but Because of Covid19 they are now printing your tags and sending them to you

Can you post the link to where you heard that info ?
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: jackelope on April 24, 2020, 09:55:59 PM
Why does it seem difficult for people to understand that things aren’t “normal” right now? Things are going to be weird and possibly not the way we’re used to them being. The alternative is that WDFW could totally shut down completely and make everyone wait till they’re open to buy licenses and MS permits.
Things are going to happen that aren’t normal. Roll with the punches. It’ll all be ok. With or without a mask on.

Haven’t we always had the option to print temporary licenses? I’m pretty positive it’s an option every year.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Lucky1 on April 24, 2020, 10:01:10 PM
Zip lock bag
Electrical tape
Not a big deal
Yep. Printed out the multi season elk tag and put it in a ziplock bag. Guess I will find a way to keep it with the meat if I get one. I do carry a roll of electric tape.
Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: jackelope on April 24, 2020, 10:09:34 PM
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Title: Re: Printing tags
Post by: Pinetar on April 24, 2020, 10:12:02 PM
Why does it seem difficult for people to understand that things aren’t “normal” right now? Things are going to be weird and possibly not the way we’re used to them being. The alternative is that WDFW could totally shut down completely and make everyone wait till they’re open to buy licenses and MS permits.
Things are going to happen that aren’t normal. Roll with the punches. It’ll all be ok. With or without a mask on.

Haven’t we always had the option to print temporary licenses? I’m pretty positive it’s an option every year.

 :yeah: Take a deep breath and relax. Stress kills  :chuckle:
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