Post by: Shooter4 on April 24, 2020, 01:45:17 PM
Post by: The scout on April 24, 2020, 01:51:26 PM
Post by: jrebel on April 24, 2020, 01:57:06 PM
Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Post by: MADMAX on April 24, 2020, 01:57:26 PM
At least it will be during the worst tides
As always :bash:
Post by: The scout on April 24, 2020, 02:08:15 PM
Post by: Shooter4 on April 24, 2020, 02:09:36 PM
Post by: baldopepper on April 24, 2020, 02:39:57 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 24, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
He said he would make an anouncement on outdoor recreation in a few days.
Now what exactly will open,what will stay closed,travel restriction,or any type of restriction nobody knows.
Post by: Stein on April 24, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 24, 2020, 02:56:31 PM
I'm betting they open lowland fishing, maybe turkeys and bear but don't think we'll be hitting the salt water for a long while (maybe August) Too much record keeping on the halibut, they don't want the usual checkers at dockside, charter boats would be hard pressed to keep social distancing and the tribes don't seem anxious to let outsiders into Neah or LaPush yet. Hope I'm wrong, but that's what I'm sniffing outBut how difficult would it be to get one of those fold out tables and have a big piece of plexiglass on it so the checker could be protected from fishermen at the ramp? Or have them wear a mask/require the fishermen to have a mask on during fish checking? It's outdoors, so even that would be more than required. Maybe they have some plan to get it open.
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2020, 03:07:09 PM
Post by: jrebel on April 24, 2020, 03:26:27 PM
They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Post by: TriggerMike on April 24, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Post by: WSU on April 24, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on April 24, 2020, 03:31:39 PM
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2020, 03:33:15 PM
They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Yeah, but the problem with that is the potential for spread is greater that way and potentially is going to be affecting more than those that are willing to risk it.
Personally, I'd be fine with that. I don't see the governor willing to do that though. But I don't see any reason why he shouldn't allow fishing to be open for those that can appropriately distance and protect themselves and others.
Post by: hunter399 on April 24, 2020, 03:40:05 PM
Post by: jrebel on April 24, 2020, 03:42:09 PM
They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Yeah, but the problem with that is the potential for spread is greater that way and potentially is going to be affecting more than those that are willing to risk it.
Except all the science is pointing to the fact the risk is very low and most the population has already had it. New York City did random testing of 3000 people and found that 21% had antibodies to covid 19. This means 21% of the 300 had already had covid with no (or minimal / non reportable) symptoms. That extrapolates out to about 1.4 million likely had it with now symptoms. Other cities are coming up with numbers running in the 7 to 14%. Take all these numbers and extrapolate them out to our entire population and the death rate is likely less than the common flu. It is time to start living our lives. If people want to be cautious they can wear masks and stay home. Herd immunity is likely the best and fastest way to move on from this pandemic.
clearly just my opinion though.
Post by: BKMFR on April 24, 2020, 03:42:47 PM
As of now it appears fishing is open. Oh wait its just the ignorant people fishing during a closure while the rest stay home. Saw 7 people bank fishing and a bass boat coming back into the launch today. Totally sucks for the people missing out while others take advantage of the potential lack of pressure to get good fishing.Maybe they are the smart ones!!!!! Worried I am just part of the ignorant sheep herd that's going by what islee who I have zero respect for is requiring.... just about ready to go fishing myself.
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2020, 03:43:44 PM
Post by: opdinkslayer on April 24, 2020, 04:15:19 PM
Post by: bearpaw on April 24, 2020, 04:18:09 PM
They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Yeah, but the problem with that is the potential for spread is greater that way and potentially is going to be affecting more than those that are willing to risk it.
Except all the science is pointing to the fact the risk is very low and most the population has already had it. New York City did random testing of 3000 people and found that 21% had antibodies to covid 19. This means 21% of the 300 had already had covid with no (or minimal / non reportable) symptoms. That extrapolates out to about 1.4 million likely had it with now symptoms. Other cities are coming up with numbers running in the 7 to 14%. Take all these numbers and extrapolate them out to our entire population and the death rate is likely less than the common flu. It is time to start living our lives. If people want to be cautious they can wear masks and stay home. Herd immunity is likely the best and fastest way to move on from this pandemic.
clearly just my opinion though.
:yeah: I agree 100%
Post by: baldopepper on April 24, 2020, 04:31:34 PM
not disagreeing in most of that, but can't use the flu extrapolation. Flu has only killed 96 people in Wa since last Oct thru April 20. Over 700 to covid which is more contagious and more deadly. Still I agree statistically we should be opening up those activities and jobs that are capable of being low risk-i.e. at least the da__ fishing because the risk of indoor closure insanity is very high.They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Yeah, but the problem with that is the potential for spread is greater that way and potentially is going to be affecting more than those that are willing to risk it.
Except all the science is pointing to the fact the risk is very low and most the population has already had it. New York City did random testing of 3000 people and found that 21% had antibodies to covid 19. This means 21% of the 300 had already had covid with no (or minimal / non reportable) symptoms. That extrapolates out to about 1.4 million likely had it with now symptoms. Other cities are coming up with numbers running in the 7 to 14%. Take all these numbers and extrapolate them out to our entire population and the death rate is likely less than the common flu. It is time to start living our lives. If people want to be cautious they can wear masks and stay home. Herd immunity is likely the best and fastest way to move on from this pandemic.
clearly just my opinion though.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 24, 2020, 04:32:58 PM
I know of several closed door meetings with WDFW, fishing association reps and charter reps. I think everyone is on the same page, but until the puppet master pulls the right strings everyone is stuck. I do think once May 4th rolls around if we aren't getting a few bones from dad that most of the dogs will just rip the whole bag open and do as they please.
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2020, 04:40:23 PM
I hike on state land every night with my 2 labs🤭 :chuckle:
You're probably lucky enough to live close by state land. I'm close to Capital Forest but not close enough to walk there and I'm afraid if I were to park nearby and go for a hike, I'd get a ticket from the DNR officer.
There is some private timberland not too far, but the parking area by the gate has been packed worse than opening day of deer season when I passed by a while back.
Post by: Stein on April 24, 2020, 04:40:25 PM
At some point the leadership should either do it or get off the pot. If Starbucks is ok and safe to be open a checker can make sure a guy only has one halibut. We can survive one year without measuring a fish with no size limit.
Open or close - all nonessential stuff should be treated equally. I’m fine either way at this point.
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Post by: Limhangerslayer on April 24, 2020, 04:49:38 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 24, 2020, 05:34:03 PM
I don't like hearing that all the commissioner's voted to give ole Kelly Susewind full control without needing a vote from any of the commissioners on what he decides. Makes me think he's spooning in bed with that p.o.s. governor we have! They are probably nut to butt!!:tup:
Post by: Gunsmoke on April 24, 2020, 08:22:10 PM
. Flu deaths are way down because they are labeling everything Covid. No positive test required to list covid as cause of death.not disagreeing in most of that, but can't use the flu extrapolation. Flu has only killed 96 people in Wa since last Oct thru April 20. Over 700 to covid which is more contagious and more deadly. Still I agree statistically we should be opening up those activities and jobs that are capable of being low risk-i.e. at least the da__ fishing because the risk of indoor closure insanity is very high.They should open all fishing asap (with the rule that anglers must distance themselves unless their fishing partner is someone they live with). Sure, that leaves out most guides and charter boats but so what. It's the right thing to do.
Or just open all fishing and say if you want to do a charter knowing the risk.....so be it, that is your choice. :dunno:
Yeah, but the problem with that is the potential for spread is greater that way and potentially is going to be affecting more than those that are willing to risk it.
Except all the science is pointing to the fact the risk is very low and most the population has already had it. New York City did random testing of 3000 people and found that 21% had antibodies to covid 19. This means 21% of the 300 had already had covid with no (or minimal / non reportable) symptoms. That extrapolates out to about 1.4 million likely had it with now symptoms. Other cities are coming up with numbers running in the 7 to 14%. Take all these numbers and extrapolate them out to our entire population and the death rate is likely less than the common flu. It is time to start living our lives. If people want to be cautious they can wear masks and stay home. Herd immunity is likely the best and fastest way to move on from this pandemic.
clearly just my opinion though.
Post by: hunter399 on April 24, 2020, 08:32:22 PM
I see fishing having a lot better chances of opening then hunting.Fishing has overall a lot more support,local fishing spots that most people can utilize locally,lost revenue is high.
Hunting everybody wants to travel,not much support,
And I just don't see the governor lifting his stay at home order just yet ,and don't believe WDFW would support a local type hunt if they did they would of got it open by now.
Post by: dilleytech on April 26, 2020, 03:04:38 PM
I said this in another thread but.,
I see fishing having a lot better chances of opening then hunting.Fishing has overall a lot more support,local fishing spots that most people can utilize locally,lost revenue is high.
Hunting everybody wants to travel,not much support,
And I just don't see the governor lifting his stay at home order just yet ,and don't believe WDFW would support a local type hunt if they did they would of got it open by now.
This is probably correct as much as it saddens me. I don’t travel to turkey hunt. I could have killed a couple turkeys the last few weeks just mushroom hunting. But just opening fishing would be huge for people who use fishing for stress release. We need something real fast.All Freshwater fishing would be a decent start.
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 26, 2020, 03:15:39 PM
I said this in another thread but.,
I see fishing having a lot better chances of opening then hunting.Fishing has overall a lot more support,local fishing spots that most people can utilize locally,lost revenue is high.
Hunting everybody wants to travel,not much support,
And I just don't see the governor lifting his stay at home order just yet ,and don't believe WDFW would support a local type hunt if they did they would of got it open by now.
This is probably correct as much as it saddens me. I don’t travel to turkey hunt. I could have killed a couple turkeys the last few weeks just mushroom hunting. But just opening fishing would be huge for people who use fishing for stress release. We need something real fast.All Freshwater fishing would be a decent start.
I think saltwater is more likely. Currently missing halibut and ling opportunities and shrimp is coming up. I think freshwater your more likely to stack people pretty close along shorelines, saltwater puts a family or a couple buddies on a boat for the day where distancing from other boat's is the norm.. :twocents:
Post by: MADMAX on April 26, 2020, 03:18:46 PM
I can recreate locally
Turkeys not likely
Halibut in the straits a pipedream right now I suspect
Sheds next year
Looks like lots of Harley time this summer
Post by: Tbar on April 26, 2020, 04:14:33 PM
Jrbel, maybe it would be prudent to call and email the county health department officials in Steven's, Pend Oreille, Okanogan, Ferry, Pacific, Callam and Grays Harbor counties. That's your stiffest opposition to welcoming all of the visitors from the greater Puget Sound region. An educated and holistic view of the shutdown and reasoning would serve all advocates of reopening well. :twocents:Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Post by: Shooter4 on April 26, 2020, 04:25:12 PM
Post by: MADMAX on April 26, 2020, 04:29:27 PM
Post by: carlyoungs on April 26, 2020, 04:31:14 PM
And a haircut wouldn’t be bad either
:yeah:
Post by: Smokeploe on April 26, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 26, 2020, 05:22:21 PM
I think we’re all gonna be pleasantly surprisedWhat do you know.
TELL ME
You tell me it's ok ,just whisper it in my little ear
Creepy Joe Biden style . :chuckle:
Post by: JeffRaines on April 26, 2020, 05:42:22 PM
Jrbel, maybe it would be prudent to call and email the county health department officials in Steven's, Pend Oreille, Okanogan, Ferry, Pacific, Callam and Grays Harbor counties. That's your stiffest opposition to welcoming all of the visitors from the greater Puget Sound region. An educated and holistic view of the shutdown and reasoning would serve all advocates of reopening well. :twocents:Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Theyre already getting visitors. Its not like no one is taking advantage of the time off work.
Up around Greenwater last Thursday I seen I don't know how many people camping and hanging out by the river. The river was busier than it is on a summer weekend with 10-15 cars piled into one spot. I get it - its Greenwater and not those counties, but if its happening there I'm sure its just as bad in those counties.
I wonder how many turkey "viewing" camps are set up in the forests around Chewelah/Colville? I'm sure theres some guys hunting coyotes/mountain lions with shotguns.
My point being - its happening anyway. I don't think officially allowing it is going to cause a flood of people because frankly, not very many people are following it anyway. Especially not other(hikers/bikers/etc) users of the forest.
Post by: wsmnut on April 26, 2020, 06:03:44 PM
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"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19
Scientific Brief
24 April 2020
WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.1 Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.
Post by: Oh Mah on April 26, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?I can think of 1 major diff. May 4th happens to be the day before May 5th. :chuckle: :chuckle: we will see how this all goes over if Inslee doesn't lift some obvious restrictions before cinco de mayo
Post by: fishngamereaper on April 26, 2020, 06:36:26 PM
Home/Newsroom/Commentaries/Detail/"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19
"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19
Scientific Brief
24 April 2020
WHO has published guidance on adjusting public health and social measures for the next phase of the COVID-19 response.1 Some governments have suggested that the detection of antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, could serve as the basis for an “immunity passport” or “risk-free certificate” that would enable individuals to travel or to return to work assuming that they are protected against re-infection. There is currently no evidence that people who have recovered from COVID-19 and have antibodies are protected from a second infection.
Ya good luck with that...I've heard the passport thing before. Talk about privacy issues.
Post by: hunter399 on April 26, 2020, 06:45:19 PM
I tell ya I was getting firewood ,around the chewalah area and the woods are pretty busy 😃Jrbel, maybe it would be prudent to call and email the county health department officials in Steven's, Pend Oreille, Okanogan, Ferry, Pacific, Callam and Grays Harbor counties. That's your stiffest opposition to welcoming all of the visitors from the greater Puget Sound region. An educated and holistic view of the shutdown and reasoning would serve all advocates of reopening well. :twocents:Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Theyre already getting visitors. Its not like no one is taking advantage of the time off work.
Up around Greenwater last Thursday I seen I don't know how many people camping and hanging out by the river. The river was busier than it is on a summer weekend with 10-15 cars piled into one spot. I get it - its Greenwater and not those counties, but if its happening there I'm sure its just as bad in those counties.
I wonder how many turkey "viewing" camps are set up in the forests around Chewelah/Colville? I'm sure theres some guys hunting coyotes/mountain lions with shotguns.
My point being - its happening anyway. I don't think officially allowing it is going to cause a flood of people because frankly, not very many people are following it anyway. Especially not other(hikers/bikers/etc) users of the forest.
Post by: JeffRaines on April 26, 2020, 06:56:00 PM
I tell ya I was getting firewood ,around the chewalah area and the woods are pretty busy 😃Jrbel, maybe it would be prudent to call and email the county health department officials in Steven's, Pend Oreille, Okanogan, Ferry, Pacific, Callam and Grays Harbor counties. That's your stiffest opposition to welcoming all of the visitors from the greater Puget Sound region. An educated and holistic view of the shutdown and reasoning would serve all advocates of reopening well. :twocents:Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Theyre already getting visitors. Its not like no one is taking advantage of the time off work.
Up around Greenwater last Thursday I seen I don't know how many people camping and hanging out by the river. The river was busier than it is on a summer weekend with 10-15 cars piled into one spot. I get it - its Greenwater and not those counties, but if its happening there I'm sure its just as bad in those counties.
I wonder how many turkey "viewing" camps are set up in the forests around Chewelah/Colville? I'm sure theres some guys hunting coyotes/mountain lions with shotguns.
My point being - its happening anyway. I don't think officially allowing it is going to cause a flood of people because frankly, not very many people are following it anyway. Especially not other(hikers/bikers/etc) users of the forest.
Wonder how many of them are hunting coyotes with a shotgun - and not locals 😂
Post by: hunter399 on April 26, 2020, 07:12:36 PM
I couldn't tell ya ,but I seen about a dozen sxs,few pickup,two four wheeler ,and this was before noon which is about when my truck was full of wood.There where more people out in the woods then normal,I believe it's the we are breaking the rules isn't this cool crowd.I tell ya I was getting firewood ,around the chewalah area and the woods are pretty busy 😃Jrbel, maybe it would be prudent to call and email the county health department officials in Steven's, Pend Oreille, Okanogan, Ferry, Pacific, Callam and Grays Harbor counties. That's your stiffest opposition to welcoming all of the visitors from the greater Puget Sound region. An educated and holistic view of the shutdown and reasoning would serve all advocates of reopening well. :twocents:Inslee is going to drag the fishing and hunting shut down as long as he can. It already should be open, what will be different may 4th?
I 100% agree with both statements and am 50/50 to whether it opens or not. If it doesn't open, WDFW, State Reps, Inslee and everyone else I can get a hold of will get an ear full. This has got to end....and should have ended a couple weeks ago.
Theyre already getting visitors. Its not like no one is taking advantage of the time off work.
Up around Greenwater last Thursday I seen I don't know how many people camping and hanging out by the river. The river was busier than it is on a summer weekend with 10-15 cars piled into one spot. I get it - its Greenwater and not those counties, but if its happening there I'm sure its just as bad in those counties.
I wonder how many turkey "viewing" camps are set up in the forests around Chewelah/Colville? I'm sure theres some guys hunting coyotes/mountain lions with shotguns.
My point being - its happening anyway. I don't think officially allowing it is going to cause a flood of people because frankly, not very many people are following it anyway. Especially not other(hikers/bikers/etc) users of the forest.
Wonder how many of them are hunting coyotes with a shotgun - and not locals 😂
Post by: CLARKTAR on April 26, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
I hike on state land every night with my 2 labs🤭 :chuckle:Got a 10 miler in today, mix of state and federal. No one else but me and my lab
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Post by: Bango skank on April 26, 2020, 08:16:09 PM
I hike on state land every night with my 2 labs🤭 :chuckle:Got a 10 miler in today, mix of state and federal. No one else but me and my lab
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You selfish jerk, youre going to kill everybody! :rolleyes:
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on April 26, 2020, 08:44:14 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 26, 2020, 09:08:14 PM
I hike on state land every night with my 2 labs🤭 :chuckle:Got a 10 miler in today, mix of state and federal. No one else but me and my lab
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Stay home.save lives.............🤒
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2020, 02:43:31 PM
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 27, 2020, 03:36:37 PM
Lol how would I hunt Kelly hill. Long drive.
I can help you out there.
Post by: dmoua on April 27, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
You guys with spring bear permits hit the jackpot this year. You've only lost the early part of the season that is mostly unproductive anyway AND you are now having your season extended to June 30. That's two more weeks for the east side tags and a full month for the west side tags.
Yeah they did. Well, those that didn’t ask for a refund already lol.
Post by: Curly on April 27, 2020, 03:58:21 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2020, 04:00:38 PM
And those guys that don't have to travel far. No camping is allowed. :(
On state land. But they can camp on National Forest. Or on the west side probably stay in a motel.
Post by: dmoua on April 27, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
And those guys that don't have to travel far. No camping is allowed. :(
Time to rough it and sleep in the front seat of the truck. :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 27, 2020, 04:09:46 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
It says "Opt for day trips close to home. Overnight stays are not permitted."
Is that a requirement or a suggestion? I guess more clarification is still needed.
I know overnight stays are not permitted on state land. Maybe that's what your quote is referring to?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on April 27, 2020, 04:15:19 PM
https://wdfw.wa.gov/news/wdfw-open-some-recreational-fishing-and-hunting-starting-tuesday-may-5
Doesn't say anything about state land in that statement :dunno:
Post by: Katmai Guy on April 27, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2020, 04:28:40 PM
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Spring bear hunters who would normally travel outside their local areas to hunt may wait to see how travel guidance evolves, or seek a permit refund and reclaim their points if they are unable to hunt while meeting local hunting recommendations. Permit hunters are responsible for securing access, which may not be available for all or for the added season dates. Permit holders will be sent more detailed information that will also be posted on WDFW’s COVID-19 page, and they should contact the Wildlife Program Customer Service Desk at 360-902-2515 or wildthing@dfw.wa.gov if they have additional questions.
Another quote. It does say "local hunting recommendations." So if I had a spring bear permit I pretty much guarantee I would not be following that recommendation. You can travel wherever you want for whatever reason. But if it's to go hunting then that's not recommended. I'd be going hunting. The nice thing is they have the entire month of June to hunt now as well, and I think by then a lot more of the restrictions or recommendations will have been lifted.
Post by: hunter399 on April 27, 2020, 04:40:32 PM
Dang right,And those guys that don't have to travel far. No camping is allowed. :(
Time to rough it and sleep in the front seat of the truck. :chuckle:
I've been sleeping in my bed right next to the hunting grounds.
BEAR RUT boys here we come.
Post by: HoofsandWings on April 27, 2020, 04:51:20 PM
Post by: Cab on April 27, 2020, 04:55:35 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 27, 2020, 04:57:53 PM
Question, if I'm on timber company land that permits hunting and camping can I stay overnight then since it is not state land?
Yes. It's against the state's recommendation but it wouldn't be unlawful. At least in my opinion anyway.
Post by: hunter399 on April 27, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Question, if I'm on timber company land that permits hunting and camping can I stay overnight then since it is not state land?Look up that timber company access rules to be sure.
But the answer is yes I'm betting
Post by: Curly on April 27, 2020, 05:02:00 PM
Question, if I'm on timber company land that permits hunting and camping can I stay overnight then since it is not state land?
Yes. It's against the state's recommendation but it wouldn't be unlawful. At least in my opinion anyway.
Was it a recommendation or a requirement for opening hunting and fishing?
I heard them say local only in the presser.
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OLYMPIA -- The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) announced today it will reopen some recreational fishing and hunting in a phased approach following the state’s efforts to limit the spread of coronavirus. The department is asking hunters and anglers to enjoy these outdoor activities only if they can do so locally, while also practicing physical distancing.
Many WDFW wildlife areas and boat ramps will reopen May 5 for day-use only recreation, as will some recreational fishing per 2019-2020 sport fishing rules.
All freshwater fisheries will open May 5, as will Puget Sound saltwater fisheries (Marine Areas 5-13), except for halibut, shrimp, and intertidal shellfish harvesting, which remain closed statewide. Coastal saltwater fishing and shellfish harvesting in marine areas 1-4, including coastal clam digs, will also remain closed in consultation with local health departments, who continue to be concerned regarding the potential health impact to their communities from outside visitors.
Local hunting for turkey and spring bear will open on May 5, and the spring bear season will be extended until June 30.
“We’ve had so many people doing their part to stay home, and we’re seeing results. We’re now at a point where we will soon be able to begin welcoming people back outdoors,” said Kelly Susewind, WDFW director. “I’m asking people to take what they’ve learned these past few weeks and continue putting these measures into play as you fish, hunt, and enjoy your local wildlife area. We’re happy to reopen these opportunities, and we need you to continue working with us to stay safe.”
Visitors, anglers, and hunters should only venture out well-prepared. The public should expect limited access to restrooms as staff begin the process to reopen facilities at wildlife areas and water access sites. WDFW is also recommending that people bring their own handwashing materials, toilet paper, and masks or bandanas, and be prepared to change plans if sites appear congested.
WDFW hatchery staff have continued to stock lakes throughout the closure. Anglers are asked to practice appropriate physical distancing at a given location, and avoid crowding on banks, piers, or at boat ramps. The department will be unable to host any formal opening day events for lowland lakes this year.
Anglers should consult the Washington Sport Fishing Rules pamphlet at wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/regulations/ or Fish Washington mobile app, as well as the emergency rule changes webpage at fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/, before heading out.
If sites become overcrowded or other COVID-19 related public safety concerns develop, the department may reclose areas to further protect public health and safe resource management.
The department is encouraging local county health departments to stay in contact with WDFW regional management regarding any concerns, and notes that the department may also act to close areas during localized future outbreaks to discourage travel or congestion-related spread of the virus.
Spring bear hunters who would normally travel outside their local areas to hunt may wait to see how travel guidance evolves, or seek a permit refund and reclaim their points if they are unable to hunt while meeting local hunting recommendations. Permit hunters are responsible for securing access, which may not be available for all or for the added season dates. Permit holders will be sent more detailed information that will also be posted on WDFW’s COVID-19 page, and they should contact the Wildlife Program Customer Service Desk at 360-902-2515 or wildthing@dfw.wa.gov if they have additional questions.
WDFW regional offices, visitor centers, and hatcheries will remain closed to the public for now, but remain available by phone. Those who encounter WDFW staff while in the field should feel free to engage with WDFW employees, but remember to practice physical distancing and keep at least six feet away.
To help discourage travel, the department is suspending the sale of non-resident fishing licenses.
Guidelines for #ResponsibleRecreation in the outdoors
Before you go
· Check what’s open. While many state-managed land destinations are open for day-use, other local, tribal, and federal land may still be closed.
· Opt for day trips close to home. Overnight stays are not permitted.
· Stay with immediate household members only. Recreation with those outside of your household creates new avenues for virus transmission.
· Come prepared. Visitors may find reduced or limited restroom services as staff begin the process to reopen facilities at wildlife areas and water access sites. You are advised to bring your own soap, water, hand sanitizer, and toilet paper, as well as a mask or bandana to cover your nose and mouth.
· Enjoy the outdoors when healthy. If you have symptoms of fever, coughing, or shortness of breath, save your outdoor adventure for another day.
When you get there
· Avoid crowds. Be prepared to go somewhere else or come back another time if your destination looks crowded.
· Practice physical distancing. Keep six feet between you and those outside your immediate household. Launch one boat at a time to give others enough space to launch safely. Leave at least one parking space between your vehicle and the vehicle next to you. Trailer your boat in the same way.
· Wash your hands often. Keep up on personal hygiene and bring your own water, soap, and hand sanitizer with you.
· Pack out what you pack in. Take any garbage with you, including disposable gloves and masks.
For the latest updates on WDFW’s coronavirus response and to check the status of your favorite destinations, visit wdfw.wa.gov/about/covid-19-updates. Find more guidelines for responsible recreation in this WDFW blog.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife is the state agency tasked with preserving, protecting, and perpetuating fish, wildlife, and ecosystems, while providing sustainable fishing, hunting, and other recreation opportunities.
Post by: Curly on April 27, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
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Spring bear hunters who would normally travel outside their local areas to hunt may wait to see how travel guidance evolves, or seek a permit refund and reclaim their points if they are unable to hunt while meeting local hunting recommendations.
Post by: Shooter4 on April 27, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
Post by: hunter399 on April 27, 2020, 05:57:55 PM
So is the last three days of spring bear a good deal when’s the rut peakBear rut kinda good kinda bad .
Yes bears will be on the move more.
You have to be in areas that have a lot of bears.
No bears ,no bear rut.
But I have heard also that's when the big boys get stupid just like deer.
Nocturnal monsters may turn up in the day light.
Season is open till June 30 bears start breeding in June.
Post by: bearmanric on April 27, 2020, 06:26:59 PM
Post by: addicted1 on April 27, 2020, 07:38:36 PM
I also took the local only as suggestion, what does local mean? That seem vague, local to Washington, county, mileage? They better come out detailed info, I don’t see how they can partially open the hunting and enforce it.
Post by: Katmai Guy on April 27, 2020, 08:59:36 PM