Post by: saylean on April 10, 2009, 10:42:34 AM
Post by: Alan K on April 10, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
This doesn't mean we'd better change bear to specific weapons too, that would be equally rediculous, if not more.
It's just classic Washington politics. Penalize everyone for the poor actions of a few. Hunting is really just the honor system. There is nowhere near enough enforcement out there to stop everyone who violates a game law. Either get the enforcement out there or you're just going to have to live with the fact that there are a few bad apples out of the thousands of good ones.
It burns me up that they keep limiting me due to the actions of a select few! >:( I can't believe they even considered closing the bear season due to the hiker being shot. It's tragic but it's an isolated incident. Why the hell would you even consider penalizing everyone for it!?!?!
>:( >:( >:(
Sorry got a bit off topic, just had a vent moment. . .
Post by: whacker1 on April 10, 2009, 11:09:08 AM
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This whole thing is a joke. . . This doesn't do anything as far as people saying 'Oh I was hunting for cougar/bear' when they are approached by an officer when they're packing a gun during archery season. . . Bear season still overlaps the seasons and people will just say 'I'm hunting bear'.
This doesn't mean we'd better change bear to specific weapons too, that would be equally rediculous, if not more.
It's just classic Washington politics. Penalize everyone for the poor actions of a few. Hunting is really just the honor system. There is nowhere near enough enforcement out there to stop everyone who violates a game law. Either get the enforcement out there or you're just going to have to live with the fact that there are a few bad apples out of the thousands of good ones.
It burns me up that they keep limiting me due to the actions of a select few! I can't believe they even considered closing the bear season due to the hiker being shot. It's tragic but it's an isolated incident. Why the hell would you even consider penalizing everyone for it!?!?!
Sorry got a bit off topic, just had a vent moment. . .
:yeah:
Post by: matlockmike on April 10, 2009, 11:25:02 AM
Got to buy a differnet permit to hunt the second half of the season... :bash:...just another way to discourage the common hunter from hunting. :bdid:
Post by: Ray on April 10, 2009, 11:29:07 AM
Post by: mossback91 on April 10, 2009, 11:31:25 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2009, 11:32:29 AM
Post by: 7mag. on April 10, 2009, 03:59:40 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 10, 2009, 05:20:18 PM
Tards.
WDFW
:pee:
Post by: lamar_hunter on April 10, 2009, 06:30:09 PM
I think there are more cougars out there than any biolgist team can count and estimate.
+1
Post by: jmx369 on April 10, 2009, 08:04:24 PM
Post by: mhadix on April 12, 2009, 08:58:14 AM
I think there are more cougars out there than any biolgist team can count and estimate.
with that being said, i remember a few years back i was visiting a certain wildlife park near eatonville and we came to the cougar pen. the cougars were hiding pretty good that day and the "cougar expert" that was there couldn't find them, finally we found them and my wife commented about how small they were. the "expert" says you won't find any bigger than this. so i told him just a few days ago i saw one that was probably twice the size of the big tom they have. he indirectly called me a liar, so i showed him the picture on the digital camera of me holding him(cougar season was in), he looked at me and says to me.......YOU'VE SEEN A WILD COUGAR? I WISH I WOULD SEE ONE............ i thought this guy was a "expert"
Post by: TeacherMan on April 12, 2009, 09:04:01 AM
The new law won't protect any cougars. They will just have to be left in the woods. At least that's what I will do. That is, if I am lucky enough to see one, while carrying a rifle, and am forced to defend myself. ;)
:yeah: :mgun:
I know in the Curlew area bear doesn't open until around the 8th of Sept. but after that you can carry a gun for bear so if they are trying to stop archery guys from being unethical and not true hunters it will only work for about a week. It wont stop a guy from carrying a gun in the late season because they will just carry one for bobcats and yotes. Stupid new law.
Post by: littlebuf on April 12, 2009, 09:20:47 AM
Post by: littlebuf on April 12, 2009, 09:21:30 AM
Post by: luvtohnt on April 12, 2009, 09:46:39 AM
I think there are more cougars out there than any biolgist team can count and estimate.
First of all here is some work in progress for cougars. If we required biologist to do actuall population counts instead of comparitive analysis for population numbers then our hunting licenses would be thousands of dollars each!!
http://projectcat.net/index.html
with that being said, i remember a few years back i was visiting a certain wildlife park near eatonville and we came to the cougar pen. the cougars were hiding pretty good that day and the "cougar expert" that was there couldn't find them, finally we found them and my wife commented about how small they were. the "expert" says you won't find any bigger than this. so i told him just a few days ago i saw one that was probably twice the size of the big tom they have. he indirectly called me a liar, so i showed him the picture on the digital camera of me holding him(cougar season was in), he looked at me and says to me.......YOU'VE SEEN A WILD COUGAR? I WISH I WOULD SEE ONE............ i thought this guy was a "expert"Anyone who works in a "park" can give themselves a title of expert, but don't necessarily have the proper training to be an expert.
Now the reason for this closure is female harvest is too high. If we continue to harvest at the rate we do then eventually all the cats will be gone. I don't like the idea better but right now it is our only option. I personally think the best management would be to bring back the hounds. Because it controls harvest statistics far better than open or restricted seasons do. The only problem would be to convince Seattle that this is OK!! If only we could figure out how to piggy back this in on a bill that would pass with flying colors!!
Brandon
Post by: PolarBear on April 12, 2009, 09:48:32 AM
Post by: lamar_hunter on April 12, 2009, 03:31:44 PM
Post by: Aneoakleaf on April 12, 2009, 03:57:33 PM
Your chances for getting a cat with a bow will increase if you actualy persur the cat. I think if you get anywhere around Mt. Adams and spend some time calling you can call one in. The cat I called in was the 2nd one I have shot in 10 years . The first one came in to my cow elk calls. The one last year came up the trail in my tracks. It was screaming on the ridge above my stand that was just 6 ft. up in the tree. I made a choice to call it in and have the element of surprise on my side. I shot it at 5 yards. It was 6 ft. 2 in. female . If I could do it so can you if you want it bad enough. I like cougar steaks! :drool:
I have heard of 3 other people hearing or seeing a couger last year and my husband and I saw 2 run accross the road together.
Yes there's a ton of cats out there and the biologists are sitting in the truck drinking coffie. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bowhunterforever on April 12, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
Post by: BULLZ-i on April 12, 2009, 08:50:51 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 12, 2009, 09:09:35 PM
Got one from my treestand while waiting for a big buck to show. After I stuck it, I thought that it was going to come up the tree and visit me.
This guy I met had just shot one at 13 yards (face to face) with his bow. He said he hit it a little far back and it took him 3 hours to get the nerve to go into the brush looking for it. :yike:
Post by: 7mag. on April 12, 2009, 09:59:41 PM
Got one from my treestand while waiting for a big buck to show. After I stuck it, I thought that it was going to come up the tree and visit me.
This guy I met had just shot one at 13 yards (face to face) with his bow. He said he hit it a little far back and it took him 3 hours to get the nerve to go into the brush looking for it. :yike:
Wounded kitty, no thanks.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on April 13, 2009, 09:04:24 AM
Got one from my treestand while waiting for a big buck to show. After I stuck it, I thought that it was going to come up the tree and visit me.
This guy I met had just shot one at 13 yards (face to face) with his bow. He said he hit it a little far back and it took him 3 hours to get the nerve to go into the brush looking for it. :yike:
Wounded kitty, no thanks.
Yeah, no kidding. I am pretty sure I would have gone home, gotten a half dozen buddies, a LOT of firepower (modern-type), and THEN gone to look for my kitty....
Post by: videoman on April 13, 2009, 03:57:29 PM
Post by: PolarBear on April 13, 2009, 07:31:02 PM
Post by: lamar_hunter on April 13, 2009, 10:26:37 PM
Post by: Intruder on April 14, 2009, 08:41:50 AM
Gotta be pretty looooong odds I would think.
Post by: saylean on April 16, 2009, 11:04:49 AM
WOW Saylean, you stirred up the bee's nest!
Your chances for getting a cat with a bow will increase if you actualy persur the cat. I think if you get anywhere around Mt. Adams and spend some time calling you can call one in. The cat I called in was the 2nd one I have shot in 10 years . The first one came in to my cow elk calls. The one last year came up the trail in my tracks. It was screaming on the ridge above my stand that was just 6 ft. up in the tree. I made a choice to call it in and have the element of surprise on my side. I shot it at 5 yards. It was 6 ft. 2 in. female . If I could do it so can you if you want it bad enough. I like cougar steaks! :drool:
I have heard of 3 other people hearing or seeing a couger last year and my husband and I saw 2 run accross the road together.
Yes there's a ton of cats out there and the biologists are sitting in the truck drinking coffie. :chuckle: :chuckle:
I guess so huh Aneoakleaf. While I dont agree with the new reg, it is the new reg and I guess will just make it all that much sweeter if/when I bag a cougar. I do enough calling, I will either bag one, or it will bag me. :chuckle: