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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: KDB on April 26, 2020, 07:17:17 PM

Title: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: KDB on April 26, 2020, 07:17:17 PM: Anyone notice that the regulations have changed for the late muzzle elk hunt in West Klickitat-578. First 5 days are 3 pt. or better or antlerless. The second week is bulls only. Not sure why they made the change.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: Bunny Thumper on April 26, 2020, 08:57:35 PM: Guess their more concerned with supplying the local ranchers with depredation tags so they can sell them for profit and kill elk all winter into the spring.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: HAGEMANIAC on April 26, 2020, 09:07:34 PM: Quote from: KDB on April 26, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Anyone notice that the regulations have changed for the late muzzle elk hunt in West Klickitat-578. First 5 days are 3 pt. or better or antlerless. The second week is bulls only. Not sure why they made the change.

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Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: Dark2Dark on April 29, 2020, 10:25:16 PM: Quote from: KDB on April 26, 2020, 07:17:17 PM
Anyone notice that the regulations have changed for the late muzzle elk hunt in West Klickitat-578. First 5 days are 3 pt. or better or antlerless. The second week is bulls only. Not sure why they made the change.

I can’t remember what it was before. Wasn’t it something similar? Just longer?
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: Bulldozer77 on April 30, 2020, 11:03:56 AM: I saw that too. assuming it's to reduce harvest. there were 53 cows taken in there during the late muzzleloader season last year and 72 in 2018. that's a pretty big hit on that herd in the two years that they've opened it for antlerless. Not sure if that's why but it seems logical :dunno:
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: birddogdad on April 30, 2020, 11:33:07 AM: not the animals we had years ago there in 578, or even up above in 560 right now... not sure if there was a big winter kill or the herd is just moved off somewhere else..

last year they were shooting hoof rot animals in trout lake too..

wont even discuss potential of wolves :chuckle:

all adds up.. i can say from experience , population there is WAY down from 5 years ago.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: Bulldozer77 on April 30, 2020, 11:40:44 AM: Quote from: birddogdad on April 30, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
not the animals we had years ago there in 578, or even up above in 560 right now... not sure if there was a big winter kill or the herd is just moved off somewhere else..

last year they were shooting hoof rot animals in trout lake too..

wont even discuss potential of wolves :chuckle:

all adds up.. i can say from experience , population there is WAY down from 5 years ago.

:yeah: I agree with all of this too
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: elksnout on April 30, 2020, 07:31:18 PM: Quote from: birddogdad on April 30, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
not the animals we had years ago there in 578, or even up above in 560 right now... not sure if there was a big winter kill or the herd is just moved off somewhere else..

last year they were shooting hoof rot animals in trout lake too..

wont even discuss potential of wolves :chuckle:

all adds up.. i can say from experience , population there is WAY down from 5 years ago.

Five years ago? Those areas 560, 578 and 574 used to be the place to be no matter the weapon for elk. Need to go back fifteen years ago to have seen decent hunting. Damn sad.

Elksnout
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: BUTTER on May 01, 2020, 10:41:27 PM: This time of year 10 years ago youd see 500 head in the valley now your lucky to see 40. Herds dieing and will only get worst. Wolves this wolves that cats are doing the majority of the killing up there.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: BUTTER on May 01, 2020, 10:49:26 PM: Remember also this coming year could be a real change as 70 percent of the places people would consider worth elk hunting is now Reservation.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: dilleytech on May 02, 2020, 12:40:14 PM: Quote from: BUTTER on May 01, 2020, 10:49:26 PM
Remember also this coming year could be a real change as 70 percent of the places people would consider worth elk hunting is now Reservation.

Can you explain a little?
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: BUTTER on May 03, 2020, 10:26:52 AM: Court rules Glenwood is under Yakama jurisdiction - The Goldendale Sentinel
https://www.goldendalesentinel.com/story/2019/09/04/news/court-rules-glenwood-is-under-yakama-jurisdiction/12137.html
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: dilleytech on May 03, 2020, 10:59:53 AM: Quote from: BUTTER on May 03, 2020, 10:26:52 AM
Court rules Glenwood is under Yakama jurisdiction - The Goldendale Sentinel
https://www.goldendalesentinel.com/story/2019/09/04/news/court-rules-glenwood-is-under-yakama-jurisdiction/12137.html

Interesting. I didn’t see where the land would be handed over to the tribes just that lt gives them criminal jurisdiction.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: 444Marlin on May 03, 2020, 12:05:44 PM: I don't know if that qualifies as 70% of anywhere worth hunting for elk in the unit. I hunted up there before the decision and I wasn't impressed. I don't feel like we're missing any of the best parts of that unit.

The herd in that area has been impacted by a lot of things: hoof rot, bad drought and wildfires (mostly in the area across the road in the 560), an over-allocation of cow tags,and subsequent tough winters.

I think they should eliminate all anterless tags and late season hunts for that area and the 560 for a few seasons, and maybe put it as a draw only if that doesn't help. I've personally stopped hunting that area because I think we should give it a rest.
Title: Re: West Klickitat Late Muzzle Elk Hunt
Post by: BUTTER on May 03, 2020, 12:51:26 PM: I dont think anyone fully knows what will happen once the tribe fully has it. Yes I agree it needs a rest those elk dont get a break from darn near the beginning of Sept till Dec. We complain about predators and some will be upset with this opinion but I feel as if these units and many others are over hunted. 560 in the wilderness used to be one of the best tags in the state now id say its borderline so so there is still some good bulls around no doubt I seen a few last season hit the floor but there rare nowadays. I personally quit have switched areas and am hunting elsewhere out of state.