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Post by: buckfvr on May 03, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
Reason I point this out is there are various articles from QDMA and others that have actual records of deer from farms and since they know actual age, they can compare results they receive from state game agencies. It is said to be common for the tests to be +- 1 year and sometimes more.
So the built in 1/2 year default plus the inherent +- leaves one to believe its only an estimate. I am waiting on the results from my buck from 11-15-2019 that we have pictures of him from 2013 and every consecutive year. We'll see if they are close with their +-.
Post by: HillHound on May 03, 2020, 10:29:53 AM
First off Im not saying hes not 4 years old, but I am pointing out that if he was a june born or july born fawn he would have been at 3.5 or 4.5 years of age at time of harvest, not straight up 4.
Reason I point this out is there are various articles from QDMA and others that have actual records of deer from farms and since they know actual age, they can compare results they receive from state game agencies. It is said to be common for the tests to be +- 1 year and sometimes more.
That will be interesting to hear what they say since you have a pretty close idea of what it should be already.
So the built in 1/2 year default plus the inherent +- leaves one to believe its only an estimate. I am waiting on the results from my buck from 11-15-2019 that we have pictures of him from 2013 and every consecutive year. We'll see if they are close with their +-.
Post by: JakeLand on May 03, 2020, 05:13:48 PM
Nice buck !
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Post by: buckfvr on May 25, 2020, 08:57:02 AM
WDFW claim this buck was 2 yr old (2.5) at kill.
Was the tooth submitted or was it just viewed by someone from wdfw ? If it was only viewed, if you still have the jaw, send in the tooth. I see characteristics that point to it being older than that.
Also, if it was sent in, when was it sent in and when were results received as I am also waiting for results.
Post by: steeleywhopper on May 31, 2020, 02:41:53 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 31, 2020, 08:02:41 AM
Not sure if I totally buy the tooth age accuracy. I killed a black bear that was 6.5ft long and weighed a bunch. WDFW aged it as 1yr old from tooth. This boar was no one year old.
Sounds like he was a lot longer in the tooth than that.🤣
My son killed a smaller sow in the high country, and they said 12 1/2, I don’t believe it.
Post by: buckfvr on May 31, 2020, 09:13:42 AM
Post by: Bango skank on May 31, 2020, 09:58:01 AM
Not sure if I totally buy the tooth age accuracy. I killed a black bear that was 6.5ft long and weighed a bunch. WDFW aged it as 1yr old from tooth. This boar was no one year old.
Wdfw didnt age it, they sent it to a lab to be aged. That being said, cementum aging isnt 100% accurate. I read where qdma took a number of deer of known ages and sent teeth off. I believe they used 2 different labs. They would send terth from the same deer to two different labs and quite often got different results. Results were pretty commonly a year higher or lower than the deers actual age, and sometimes off by 2 years. In your case of a large bear being aged at 1 year, its also possible that teeth got mixed up. A neighbor killed a very large boar that the results called 2 years old. Not possible.
Cementum aging gives you a good idea, but its not perfect. Generally if they say an animal is 5 yrs old for example, its a pretty good bet that its 4- 6.
Post by: dilleytech on June 01, 2020, 10:19:49 AM
WDFW claim this buck was 2 yr old (2.5) at kill.
Lol ya obviously not 2.5.