Post by: Bearhunter on November 01, 2007, 02:48:07 PM
Post by: jackelope on November 01, 2007, 03:00:50 PM
next rifle i buy will probably be from there. check out the classifieds section. got to be one of the most active classifieds forums for firearms on the web.
Post by: T-ROY on November 01, 2007, 03:35:57 PM
Post by: actionshooter on November 01, 2007, 07:48:48 PM
Post by: high country on November 01, 2007, 09:10:31 PM
If you want a sweet shooting rig that is light on weight go for a ti action with a light barrel from broughton, schneider, lilja, hart, pac nor, rock........pick a stock anywhere from a ti takeoff to a edge fill mc millian.
are you hoping for a super long range target gun or hunting? I ask because the twist rate you want is going to depend on your bullet choice. a gun that whips a big berger bullet may not do well with a ballistic tip....and so on. If you are looking for a big and mean long range rig take a peek at shawn carlocks 338 allen stuff......pretty angry. I am a super magnum slut, but I have found my 257 wby kills everything from mice to elk just as fast as my ultramags.....and is a lot more fun to shoot. I myself am building a 6.5-284 for my next custom long range rig, I have a greg tannel built 6.5-06 that is amazing at ranges up to 1500 yds. a short action version is gonna be better yet.
Post by: jackelope on November 02, 2007, 07:54:33 AM
Post by: Bearhunter on November 02, 2007, 09:51:52 AM
Post by: high country on November 03, 2007, 02:44:41 PM
If you consider how many moose have been killed by the 6.5 swede the 6.5-284 becomes pretty interesting. you can get bullets with BC's over .600 and still get good velocities. it takes a 300RUM class case in 30cal to push a .600 bullet as fast as a 6.5-284 or 6.5-06. the beauty of the 6.5 is the bullets, you can have high BC for long range or windy days, you can get bullets which have a SD that is almost impossible to find in other cals. and you have a good choice of hunting class bullets in the middle. the 284 can be built on a short ti action and come in pretty light. I have used my 6.5 to bust clay piegons at 1k yds and turn around and kill elk the nex day. I would have to say a 257wby is the best point and click 500yd gun you will find. 270wby is right in the hunt too. I get my 100gr tsx's up to 3700fps with good accuracy in mine. I still would go 6.5-284 for a light custom just because it offers way more options than the others, not faster, just the ability to shoot bullets that are amazing and unduplicated in sd and bc.
look at what the bench guy shoot, big 338's, big 30's and a few big 6mm's but by and large the 6.5 is the king. and for a backpack rig the 30's and 338's are gonna kill more scopes than elk.....BTDT. if the wind is blowing and it will, a 6.5 will drift way less then the 30's and most 338's. at 500 yds you are really looking at a chip shot for even a 7mm/08, just some practice.
good luck.
Post by: Bearhunter on November 03, 2007, 03:48:29 PM
Post by: Hunting Cowboy on November 07, 2007, 04:03:40 PM
Mike
Post by: high country on November 07, 2007, 04:43:39 PM
Post by: Intruder on November 13, 2007, 01:24:41 PM
Shooting the calibers you mentions you may want to look at longer (and heavier) barrel options 26+" and definitely get a break. If you stick w/ the 30 cals the RUM will be easier and cheaper to obtain ammo and or brass for. I've shot both and when reloading there's not a ton of difference between em. As some of the early posts suggest... there may be other cals to consider if muleys are your primary target. 7 STW is pretty sweet as is the 264 Wmag.
Another option to consider is building a rifle yourself. Lilja and Shilen offer great barrels and are easily matched up to any of the readily available actions out there... Rem and Browning are widely available and are rock solid. HS and McMillin make great stocks and a 50$ trigger job and you're set.
Post by: GoldTip on November 13, 2007, 02:03:16 PM
Post by: high country on November 13, 2007, 04:54:37 PM
Anyone kicked around the idea of a 6.5 out a wsm case? Seems like that could be a good flat shooting cartridge with a great BC. But I do wonder about the length of a 6.5mm 140gr bullet loaded into the wsm case and how much powder capacity that long bullet would take up. Anyone else pondered this?
6.5-284 is pretty much the standard in short/fat. many wsm cases are better than the 6.5 just because you run out of mag length. if you single load it does offer a bit more snort, but as a hunting round the 284 feeds better and is available in lapua brass, a big plus. but..........you can build anything.
Post by: tlbradford on November 13, 2007, 04:57:43 PM
Anyone kicked around the idea of a 6.5 out a wsm case? Seems like that could be a good flat shooting cartridge with a great BC. But I do wonder about the length of a 6.5mm 140gr bullet loaded into the wsm case and how much powder capacity that long bullet would take up. Anyone else pondered this?
This is essentially the 6.5x.284.
Post by: tlbradford on November 13, 2007, 04:58:19 PM
Post by: GoldTip on November 14, 2007, 01:37:37 PM
Post by: Dudeluv on December 08, 2007, 08:45:22 PM
I have a Remington 700VS with the Carbon Fiber Barrel which was basically copied
by Christensen Arms. remington made only 1500 of these guns from 1999-2001
223,22-250 and the 308 caliber. I have the 308. I have killed 1 bear with this and 2 deer since I have owned it. It has a 1 1/4" dia barrel and it very light.
I'm not sure it CA made these for Remington but they are very similar and from what I hear they did have something to do with it ( my info could be wrong though).
I will tell you this. The gun shoots a 3/4" group at 200yds off the bench with a 5 shot group. I have this gun topped with a Leupold VXIII 6.5X20X40 OT WEith the Target Dot retical and it is a tack driver. You will not go wrong with a CA rifle.
I have also shot 7 rounds kinda quickly strickly just to fire form my brass and the barrel wasn't even warm. Disapates heat 10 times faster than you regular steel barrels. I shoot up at the Plantation if your interested sometime I'll let ya shoot it
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 11, 2007, 01:27:51 PM
Post by: Bearhunter on December 12, 2007, 02:38:08 PM
Post by: high country on December 13, 2007, 05:52:52 AM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on December 13, 2007, 09:50:31 AM