Post by: hal on July 09, 2020, 08:56:02 AM
Post by: sjhgraysage on July 09, 2020, 09:01:20 AM
Post by: Bango skank on July 09, 2020, 11:34:50 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 09, 2020, 11:36:48 AM
Yes, we had a 4pt minimum in units 121 and 117 from 2011-2014, then they took it away. Everybody who lives here that i know wants it back. The improvement to the herd was very noticable after just 4 years, and it went right back to *censored* after the apr was taken away. People want it back. I took the survey in favor of a 4pt apr in all ne units, 101-121.
I remember it but don't remember the parameters. Was it an APR across the board or were there youth seasons, disabled or over 65?
Post by: Bango skank on July 09, 2020, 11:51:42 AM
Yes, we had a 4pt minimum in units 121 and 117 from 2011-2014, then they took it away. Everybody who lives here that i know wants it back. The improvement to the herd was very noticable after just 4 years, and it went right back to *censored* after the apr was taken away. People want it back. I took the survey in favor of a 4pt apr in all ne units, 101-121.
I remember it but don't remember the parameters. Was it an APR across the board or were there youth seasons, disabled or over 65?
It was across the board. And honestly, after a few years of the apr, youd have a harder time finding a spike or fork horn than a 4x. And the better age class of bucks caused more daylight rut activity, more scrapes and rubs etc. It was an overall better hunting experience. Even if it is put in across the board again, a kid will have a better chance of getting a buck with an apr than he had with no apr in place. That being said, id be okay with youth only being able to take any buck. Id prefer if that was only during the october season, but the survey didnt allow me to specify that.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 09, 2020, 11:56:02 AM
Yes, we had a 4pt minimum in units 121 and 117 from 2011-2014, then they took it away. Everybody who lives here that i know wants it back. The improvement to the herd was very noticable after just 4 years, and it went right back to *censored* after the apr was taken away. People want it back. I took the survey in favor of a 4pt apr in all ne units, 101-121.
I remember it but don't remember the parameters. Was it an APR across the board or were there youth seasons, disabled or over 65?
It was across the board. And honestly, after a few years of the apr, youd have a harder time finding a spike or fork horn than a 4x. And the better age class of bucks caused more daylight rut activity, more scrapes and rubs etc. It was an overall better hunting experience. Even if it is put in across the board again, a kid will have a better chance of getting a buck with an apr than he had with no apr in place. That being said, id be okay with youth only being able to take any buck. Id prefer if that was only during the october season, but the survey didnt allow me to specify that.
I couldn't remember and since I don't have kids, I didn't really pay attention. I would also be fine with and actually prefer if youth was allowed any buck during general but not late. I think that is a good middle ground
Post by: Bango skank on July 09, 2020, 12:02:31 PM
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on July 09, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
Yup. Let a kid take any buck during october season, if that doesnt happen and he hunts november, sorry charlie, 4pt min.
I would go even further and say just give them a Friday-Monday during the early season to harvest any buck. If they can’t get it done, then they face the same APR as everyone else!
Post by: Seabass on July 14, 2020, 07:14:08 AM
I hope we get it re-implemented, regardless of form.
Post by: vandeman17 on July 14, 2020, 08:32:10 AM
Post by: Seabass on July 14, 2020, 08:53:12 AM
I never got the email initially but got the reminder email yesterday and took the survey. Wish they had a comments section
That's exactly what happened to me.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 14, 2020, 08:57:23 AM
I never got the email initially but got the reminder email yesterday and took the survey. Wish they had a comments section
That's exactly what happened to me.
Same here. Said they sent it to me last week, I definitely did not recieve it.
Post by: Fishmaker57 on July 14, 2020, 08:58:51 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on July 14, 2020, 09:08:11 AM
Post by: dvolmer on July 14, 2020, 10:17:58 AM
Post by: Seabass on July 14, 2020, 10:33:06 AM
Four point restriction for all whitetail bucks (3 points with eye guards 1 inch or larger) and all late season hunts are 4 point only through the draw. My two cents. Probably not worth much!!! :twocents:
On a personal level, I would be screwed if they kill the late season. I am an archery hunter BUT I also coach High School football. I simply can't hunt in September. My ONLY option is the late season. That 20 day late archery season is the only thing standing between me and mental health issues. :)
Post by: Buckhunter24 on July 14, 2020, 10:37:30 AM
Four point restriction for all whitetail bucks (3 points with eye guards 1 inch or larger) and all late season hunts are 4 point only through the draw. My two cents. Probably not worth much!!! :twocents:
Make late whitetail draw only? I think a lot of people that don't draw would then pressure other units probably. How many tags?
Post by: Rutnbuxnbulls on July 14, 2020, 12:35:56 PM
Sounds like Shaniqua needs to learn how to populate mass emails more effectively
Which Shaniqua are you referring to, Jones or Johnson? ;)
I'm all for the point restrictions in those GMU's. Although I don't hunt there every season, I did back in 2014 and it was awesome the number of more mature bucks we saw in a short amount of time. I'm not into killing does so I tend to lean toward more stringent regs for <65 and Youth hunters, no special permits for antlerless, 4 pt min for all hunters, maybe just give the young, old, and disabled a few days before each season to get it done. It seems like across the board there's a general consensus that the whitetail population has declined, at least since the blue tongue outbreak, I think it was 2015. Seems like it was terrible timing for the wdfw to reduce the APR when the drought killed off a considerable amount of the herd. It hasn't fully recovered since then.
Post by: Bango skank on July 14, 2020, 12:42:03 PM
Four point restriction for all whitetail bucks (3 points with eye guards 1 inch or larger) and all late season hunts are 4 point only through the draw. My two cents. Probably not worth much!!! :twocents:
Make late whitetail draw only? I think a lot of people that don't draw would then pressure other units probably. How many tags?
Yeah, draw only would increase pressure elsewhere. Think 204 and 124 especially. Me, i just wouldnt buy a deer tag in this state at all if the northeast late whitetail went draw only. Washington would be predator hunting only for me at that point.
Post by: dvolmer on July 14, 2020, 01:28:50 PM
Four point restriction for all whitetail bucks (3 points with eye guards 1 inch or larger) and all late season hunts are 4 point only through the draw. My two cents. Probably not worth much!!! :twocents:
On a personal level, I would be screwed if they kill the late season. I am an archery hunter BUT I also coach High School football. I simply can't hunt in September. My ONLY option is the late season. That 20 day late archery season is the only thing standing between me and mental health issues. :)
Sorry, I was thinking rifle only. I totally agree with a late bow hunt.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 14, 2020, 01:38:00 PM
If the population warrants more intervention down the road then look at it later. :twocents:
Post by: buckfvr on July 14, 2020, 05:20:12 PM
I personally dont think that permit only is necessary at this point. I say start with the apr for a few years and look at the results. Last time the results were very clear.
If the population warrants more intervention down the road then look at it later. :twocents:
:yeah: :yeah:
Absolutely no reason in the whole wide world to eliminate or draw permits for the late whitetail general season.
Post by: msg on July 14, 2020, 08:53:55 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 14, 2020, 09:26:04 PM
Promise you this forum spends some time complaining about wolves. But this is Washington and not much will ever be done on that end
Post by: Birdsandfish on July 14, 2020, 09:34:34 PM
Post by: hunter399 on July 15, 2020, 05:46:32 AM
:yeah:I personally dont think that permit only is necessary at this point. I say start with the apr for a few years and look at the results. Last time the results were very clear.
If the population warrants more intervention down the road then look at it later. :twocents:
:yeah: :yeah:
Absolutely no reason in the whole wide world to eliminate or draw permits for the late whitetail general season.
No need for permits,or antlerless harvest.
If anything they should be adding a few days to the season knowing harvest rates will drop.With a 4pt APR.
Post by: msg on July 16, 2020, 07:22:09 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 16, 2020, 10:55:19 PM
Glad to hear you're on board with whitetail APRs, I believe we can bring that back.
Post by: hunter399 on July 17, 2020, 05:44:38 AM
I will shoot any dink buck ,the first buck I see under the any buck rules .The past few years I have let a few walk ,even ate tag soup a few years ago.If they want to manage our herds for babies ,then I will harvest babies.I will not let dink spikes walk to have another hunter kill it the next day and have meat while I have nothing.
District 1
Is the most hunted,most harvested,highest amount of predators and a cash cow for our state when it comes to hunting.If they can't protect our resources,then I will just harvest babies like they want me too.
If you can't beat em then join em I say.
Post by: Jimmy33 on July 18, 2020, 05:30:07 AM
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Post by: teanawayslayer on July 18, 2020, 05:55:23 AM
The state needs to go to selling a blacktail tag, mule deer tag, or whitetail tag. Make people choose what they are going to hunt.:yeah: agreed!
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Post by: jasnt on July 18, 2020, 07:21:07 AM
Post by: buckfvr on July 18, 2020, 10:44:27 AM
The state needs to go to selling a blacktail tag, mule deer tag, or whitetail tag. Make people choose what they are going to hunt.
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That would mean a loss of opportunity (wdfw excuse)/ translation = loss of revenue.
Post by: archerykraze on July 19, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
The state needs to go to selling a blacktail tag, mule deer tag, or whitetail tag. Make people choose what they are going to hunt.:yeah:
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