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Title: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 09, 2020, 10:13:45 AM
Alaska has been great both in size and quantity, big fish at the bubble, good fish caught trolling mach 5 in MA 10, decent outgoing tide set, good quota, signs point to a great season.

I'll likely be out Thursday and Friday and maybe over the weekend.  I may have open seats if the crew grows weary from reeling in July hogs.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: ctwiggs1 on July 09, 2020, 11:39:02 AM
That's quite an offer!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on July 09, 2020, 12:33:47 PM
i'll likely be out Thursday and Friday as well....feeling a little under the weather for work.  :dunno: :chuckle:

Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: NRA4LIFE on July 11, 2020, 09:28:49 AM
I'll be bobbing around out there.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 11, 2020, 11:01:36 AM
I will be out as well.  Hoping for the first King of the year and maybe a crab or two?

SR1
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 16, 2020, 01:11:22 PM
Well......bloody decks or what?!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 16, 2020, 01:27:06 PM
Got one in southern 10.  Could not troll up a Coho though even though bait was everywhere.
 
SR1
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 16, 2020, 01:36:55 PM
Possession was a bust, I actually didn't even see a good fish caught.  We had one on, lost it and then it was shakerville.

PSA - if 80% of the boats are trolling in on direction, either north or south, and you are going east-west through the middle, you are doing it wrong.  You find a depth you like and troll that depth, going from 40'-800' and then back without touching your rod or downrigger isn't a high probability game.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WSU on July 16, 2020, 02:33:26 PM
There are some fisheries where I try real hard to find a spot to go 90 degrees from everyone else.  I think it can really trigger some bits to see something going a different direction than the other 2000 baits that just went by.  Not sure possession is the place to do it though.....
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: storyteller on July 16, 2020, 08:04:30 PM
So out of curiosity,  when you set up , do you pick a fathom on the sounder and try to follow it without jumping up and down on the rigger for depth and stay within 10 feet of bottom?   I see some following the contour on the sounder chart and some just crusin.

Also did you pick up any bottom fish with hootchies or plugs today?
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 16, 2020, 09:02:32 PM
Yeah, for some reason I have been catching rockfish lately, one today and several cruising in 200' going mach 5 for coho in MA10.  The are all coppers.

The general consensus is pick a depth 90-120 or so and fish the bottom unless you see fish suspended.  For blackmouth, I think they are always on the bottom but the summer migrators can sometimes be suspended although I heard that when that happens it's out deeper in 200'.  I haven't seen that happen, just word of mouth.  I catch at least 90% on the bottom, probably closer to 98%. 

When I'm seeing what I want on the graph, I do my best to hold that depth as I can set my gear and be fishing 100%.  If I move up or down in depth, I have to adjust both riggers constantly which makes for a long day.  When stacking gear it also increases odds of tangles.  When boats come in sideways, it pushes everyone around and nobody is fishing effectively.  Everyone has to do evasive maneuvers, changes depths and it leads to tangles.

For coho out in the middle, completely different story.  We do best when we can drive around like we stole it and they do like erratic stuff but you are fishing maybe 50' down in 500' and everyone is spread out so it's whatever you want to do.

Most people are cooperative, slide a bit over here or there to make room and let people by, but 10% that do whatever they want and make everyone around them move make for a big circus.  Sometimes it's because they don't know what they are doing and are not observant and sometimes it's because it's all about them.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Camo on July 16, 2020, 09:39:32 PM
PSA - if 80% of the boats are trolling in on direction, either north or south, and you are going east-west through the middle, you are doing it wrong.  You find a depth you like and troll that depth, going from 40'-800' and then back without touching your rod or downrigger isn't a high probability game.

Heard a first today...was out for the afternoon flood, lots of room and minimal boats. Fishing the west side, took a tack to the inside (already inside of his boat direction)of an oncoming boat. I was in a constant turn for better part of three or four minutes trying not to get pushed up into 80 FOW. I got a little animated when he came by as he never changed course and watched me the whole time. With the remote for his TR1 around his neck he said he was on a GPS course. So apparently that gives you the right of way now? Guess I need to buy one. 
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: MADMAX on July 17, 2020, 06:32:07 AM
Been there  :yeah:
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 17, 2020, 09:22:51 AM
Anyone fish midchannel or hear a report?
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: storyteller on July 17, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
On BD outdoors, some one said fish checker at 6pm had 7 fish for 25 boats, this was for 7/16, the rest of the reports from mcb are not that great.

Thanks for the reply, I try to fish the contour and slide when possible, and sometimes it is just hard to do.

Yesterday we got one wild bm that would have been a keeper, 4 dogfish, 8 copper quillback, 1 canary which was my first ever, the rockfish were even hitting tomic plugs.   Nothing to take home.    I do like catching but we were fishing.

Take care all.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: hookr88 on July 17, 2020, 04:32:46 PM
Ok, I have a question about direction of flood vs. ebb tide at Possession. On the opener it was ebb tide till about 9:00 a.m. +/- and it looked like the current was moving south. On our way back to Everett using our kicker because of a fuel issue :bash: it was north bound. I thought ebb would be Northbound flowing out and flood Southbound flowing in). Can anyone educate me on that?

P.S. if you're reading this and you are the one I thumbed a ride with (Tracker boat with your daughter) to Everett to make my Covid test so I could fish Alaska next week a public thank you.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Mfowl on July 17, 2020, 05:36:29 PM
Ok, I have a question about direction of flood vs. ebb tide at Possession. On the opener it was ebb tide till about 9:00 a.m. +/- and it looked like the current was moving south. On our way back to Everett using our kicker because of a fuel issue :bash: it was north bound. I thought ebb would be Northbound flowing out and flood Southbound flowing in). Can anyone educate me on that?

P.S. if you're reading this and you are the one I thumbed a ride with (Tracker boat with your daughter) to Everett to make my Covid test so I could fish Alaska next week a public thank you.

There is a lot of water flowing out of area 8-1, 8-2 on the east side of Possesion which would be in a southward direction on the ebb and reversed on the flood, naturally. That area in general is an intersection of currents and confused water. In addition water hitting the bar on both tides is forced upward and falling off the bar continually depending on which side you are on.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 17, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
On the west side of the bar it was going out until about 10 am (going North).  On the east side it was slack about 8:30 then a light incoming (current going north).  The slack time is 1.5 hours different on the same bar, just different sides!  Once I stopped looking at tide tables and instead looked at current tables it became much easier.  You still need to consider tides at the launch because you need feet of water regardless of what the current is doing.  For fishing, current is what matters, regardless of where high or low mark are.  Everything swimming only sees movement of water and the impacts of that on bait.

The incoming was much lighter and you also have the wind to deal with so sometimes the wind makes more of a push on the boat then the current.

We also have huge tide sets so it isn't always as predicted.  There was 10 feet of water trying to leave and then 10 feet trying to get back in and it's always somewhat of a guessing game what's going to happen if you are not in a main channel.  I used to crab in an area where outgoing and incoming had the same current, always to the south no matter what was going on.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 17, 2020, 05:56:50 PM
I have been seeing a trend through my little network.  Not a lot of kings but some big ones for the few that are connecting.  I have credible reports of four 20+ fish.  My opening day fish was about 8 though so... 

Hopefully things pick up in the next week.  Good luck!

SR1
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 17, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
I had one on that was either a big one or a dogfish.  Most of the latter get all wrapped around or hooked back of the mouth and can be fairly difficult to reel in.  I felt some big headshakes and then it peeled about 50 yards of line which isn't awesome when in the middle of the circus.  I made some progress, then another 50 yard run.  I put the stick to it and the 5/0 hooks popped clean.  I didn't have a choice as it was either stop it or get wrapped around about four other boats who wouldn't give an inch, so we'll never know.  It did feel awful chinook like, so I'm going with that reality.

I saw a picture of another good one, 20 for sure.  I also talked with about a dozen people that neither saw nor hooked anything and saw 100 boats around me that didn't.  It's the worst chinook opener I have personally participated in.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: SeaRun1 on July 17, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
Sounds like a Chinook to me.

SR1
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 18, 2020, 06:51:47 PM
Nothing but shaker after shaker for me. Buddy came in at 1pm....4 fish checked.... 4.  :'(
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: MADMAX on July 18, 2020, 07:09:55 PM
Thanks for the report
Sounds slow all over 9
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: storyteller on July 18, 2020, 07:28:08 PM
Just had to try it again, west side of possession bar, spent a few hours, did not see any nets flying, went to pilot point and ended the day around 130 at Jeff head, 2 shakers , 4 quill backs, 1 sand dab,   fish checkers confirmed that it is slow.   I am sleeping in tomorrow.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: brocka on July 18, 2020, 09:03:39 PM
7 shakers, 1 nice native, lost 3 keepers and ended with 2 in the boat. Fished from 5:00am to 8:00pm. Grinder but awesome day.


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Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 19, 2020, 04:56:09 AM
Time to get at it again!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: CP on July 19, 2020, 07:33:44 AM
How's the baitfish population in MA 9?

Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 19, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
Yesterday tons...on the bubble currently
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 19, 2020, 07:43:50 PM
Came in at 1pm....6 fish checked. Barf. Did see two different gray whales cruise by fairly close though. Pretty cool. Came home with crab, no fish.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 19, 2020, 08:38:40 PM
With the chinook fishing so poor, i went back to coho!  Lots of 4 lb residents around, hard to stay focused on kings. 
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on July 19, 2020, 09:00:21 PM
Jeff Head?
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 19, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
Jeff Head, Oil Docks and Richmond Beach.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 19, 2020, 09:56:00 PM
How's the baitfish population in MA 9?

SH** ton.  From at least there all the way to the Pacific from what I hear.  Most of them are super small herring, like 2-3" from what we saw jumping and on the Sabiki rod.  The coho we picked up in 10 yesterday were stuffed with them.  I didn't see a bunch of bait in 10, but 9 was loaded.  We spent most of the time in 10 way out, so there may be more bait in close.

In 9 I had bait schools on the graph 50+' deep and a couple hundred yards long.  I could see them hitting my fishing line, but alas no chinook were with them.

I did PR on sand dab, I should have taken a picture.  We got 2 big ones and one small one trolling for chinook in 10, going for a fish fry tomorrow night with those two and resident coho.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on July 20, 2020, 07:28:31 AM
ive felt like my sonar is broken.
marking so much bait but so few fish.
they'll be here eventually...
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WSU on July 20, 2020, 07:55:35 AM
I wonder if the tides were part of the problem?
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on July 20, 2020, 08:21:55 AM
i think the tides were great, concentrated bait where it needed to be, etc.
think back to the opener last year, red hot (my opinion at least)
but it was about 10 days after this years opener.  I think the fish are just stacked up further out..
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: brocka on July 20, 2020, 08:57:26 AM
ive felt like my sonar is broken.
marking so much bait but so few fish.
they'll be here eventually...

We thought the same thing. We thought the transducer was messing up. Crazy amount of bait.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: MADMAX on July 21, 2020, 11:33:20 AM
north wind and minus tides
had a nice boat ride today
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on July 21, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
im trying not to think about it much at this point.
spending this week getting caught up at work, spending this weekend in idaho doing some scouting, and hoping next week is hammer time  :chuckle:
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: ryanfam on July 22, 2020, 09:55:41 AM
Tuesday gave up on the kings as I was catching small blackmouth and dog fish. Switched to silvers and we caught three. Jeff head area.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: CP on July 29, 2020, 03:38:02 PM
Any recent reports from MA 9?

Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on July 29, 2020, 03:52:15 PM
I just looked up the creel reports, Everett ramp had 0.05 chinook per angler on the 26th.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: MADMAX on July 29, 2020, 03:57:30 PM
Fished Jeff head and apple tree this morning
50 plus boats on Jeff head
2 Sub legal blackmouth
2nd dogfish on a spoon
Beautiful morning
4 trips zero keepers
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: ryanfam on July 31, 2020, 04:39:12 AM
Tide change yesterday afternoon. 14 pounds spoon on the bottom 160 ft.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 31, 2020, 09:17:26 AM
Found one this morning. Seems like things are picking up.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Mfowl on August 01, 2020, 05:32:25 PM
Glad to see some nooks getting caught! The Elliott Bay fishery was rough on me! I fished Friday evening after work and again this AM. Not even a sniff! Saw 1 fish caught. Fish checker said Friday AM was decent which is typical but slow since. Not many boats Friday night, thought I would connect for sure then but Saturday AM was pretty busy but still not like the old days. Gonna hold out for a Willapa trip later this month and that will be it for my salmon efforts this year. Turning fully to hunting this fall.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 02, 2020, 06:27:23 AM
Quick limit today!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 03, 2020, 09:52:48 AM
Good work fellas!

I was able to finally get out to the sound yesterday. We put in around 7 and fished until 5:30. We started out at jeff’s head and fished there until noon. LOTS of boats! After a few shakers and no real action, we decided to switch spots and target coho. Lines go in the water and 5 mins later fish on, long story short line got tangled and the fish was at the surface 10’ behind the boat flopping around trying to spit the hook. Well, it worked, fish lost. We quickly got that mess untangled and put my line back in. About 10 mins later bam bam bam, fish on! This guy was a jumper, needless to say I lost him as well. Both were average sized coho. Got the line back in the water and that was the extend of the bite.

Around 2 we started to see bait balls and targeted our line depth to those. About 15 mins later, pop goes my rod off the rigger. I reel quickly and the fight was on! We played the game of I got you at the boat, ohh no you don’t for about 20 mins. We finally get the fish in the net and it‘a a hog! I ask my dad “is there an adipose fin, is there an adipose fin”....no fin!! Fish is in the boat and the Rick Flare woos and high fives begin!

The fish measured in at 36” and weighed in at 19.7 pounds. Great day out on the water!



Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Mfowl on August 03, 2020, 12:36:25 PM
 :tup: Nice fish! Congrats!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: hunthard on August 03, 2020, 01:37:54 PM
Very Nice
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: SeaRun1 on August 04, 2020, 10:47:49 AM
Finally back after a 10 day reunion.  Was hoping to see some more Kings caught.  What depth are the silvers at up at Jeff Head.  Thanks!  Will make a report or two this week.

SR1
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on August 04, 2020, 11:16:49 AM
I fish at whatever depth the bait is at.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on August 04, 2020, 11:32:01 AM
Finally back after a 10 day reunion.  Was hoping to see some more Kings caught.  What depth are the silvers at up at Jeff Head.  Thanks!  Will make a report or two this week.

SR1
honestly all over.
i caught a dandy silver pretty deep...fish counter looked in my fish bag and tried to tell me I had a king until they pulled it out...
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 04, 2020, 04:07:21 PM
I fish at whatever depth the bait is at.

This is a simple and great answer! The depths change so fast at Jeff’s head it’s hard to say a successful depth, follow the bait!

We weren’t at Jeff’s head when I caught my chinook, but I was running a 15’ set back and 90’ off the ball. We were targeting coho where we had success at the end of least season. We had lines at 40’, 60’ and 90’. Whether it was depth or my set up we’ll never know but my rod was the only rod seeing action. 
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 06, 2020, 11:34:31 AM
Hit area 10 again yesterday. Got a later start than I was hoping for but it was an overall nice day out on the water!

Put in at 1:20 and fished until 8:30. Hooked up on a fish around 5, never had a visual but it fought like a king. After 3 shakers, a  dogfish and two flounders my rod started to do the salmon dance! Fish on and in the boat, first keeper of the day was a coho at 6:45 pm.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 08, 2020, 01:22:07 PM
Great morning out there today. Lots of bait, clean water and a quick limit.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 08, 2020, 05:11:13 PM
Great morning out there today. Lots of bait, clean water and a quick limit.

Good work man! Nice fish 👍🏼👍🏼. Thanks for the update. It’s always good to get good clean water. The other day it was an all you can eat salad bar. I’ll be out there tomorrow.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 08, 2020, 07:40:57 PM
Yes, same spot yesterday had tons of weeds, today I didn’t have to clean the gear more than once or twice. So nice.  Crazy how things can change one day to the next. Same time, basically same tide, and totally different.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 08, 2020, 08:06:40 PM
Do you mind me asking what they were biting on? I caught my king off a purple haze flasher and a homemade white hoochie with a pearl skirt. Landed the coho with a red racer flasher and a silver/black front and all white back coho killer laced with krill gel. The coho’s belly was stuffed full of bait fish, I must’ve just ticked him off, no way was he hungry.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on August 10, 2020, 06:46:38 AM
2 nice kings and a coho yesterday.
LOTS of boats out, it's still not like it was last summer but it seems to slowly be picking up.
what a weird year.. :dunno:
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: h20hunter on August 10, 2020, 06:58:38 AM
Yup. Bigger shakers and plenty of dogfish.  No keepers for me.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: blackpowderhunter on August 10, 2020, 09:47:29 AM
what was strange was my first few trips out early in the season, it was dog fish and rock fish city out there.
this weekend no rock fish, no dog fish, just salmon.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: funkster on August 10, 2020, 09:55:27 AM
Well the new rod and reel is 3 for 3 on trips made and not getting skunked. I was able to catch a chinook yesterday and it was the only legal fish we boated. Yesterday was one of those days when you question if the old saying of the worse day of fishing is better than the best day at work. We worked for that one fish. We put on some miles starting out of Shilshole and headed to point no point and fished pilot to skunk. Lots of bait and markers just no bites. After a few hours and shakers we pulled up and headed south to apple tree, the salad bar was open and we were cleaning off slop, dogfish, rockfish and shakers. We decided to pull up and get out of the mess and headed to a place where the crowds weren’t fishing. Did a quick recon and bait and markers started to light the screen. We quickly drop our lines and my dad’s poll starts to dance, it was an under sized chinook. I get that fished released and get his rod back down and mine pops off the rigger. I reel down and set the hook and it’s go time! I get the fish to the boat and in the net, then checked the adi and it’s a hatchery. I was thinking to myself this looks to be right at legal limit so the tape comes out and it reads 24” and the fish goes in the boat the boat at 10:30 am. We fished until 7:20 pm and nothing but shakers after that.

The keeper bit on a hoochie behind a green/red flasher with 38” leader, 15’ set back 160 on the wire.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 12, 2020, 06:05:28 PM
Super fun salmon/shrimp combo morning. Don’t get to do that very often!  My 9 yo daughter came out with me today and caught her first king. Rounded out the limits with a good coho bite, then went north for the shrimp opener.
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Mfowl on August 12, 2020, 06:14:32 PM
Super fun salmon/shrimp combo morning. Don’t get to do that very often!  My 9 yo daughter came out with me today and caught her first king. Rounded out the limits with a good coho bite, then went north for the shrimp opener.

Heck yeah! Good day!
Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: Stein on August 12, 2020, 06:51:59 PM
Nice, we threw in the salmon rods but wimped out and came home.


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Title: Re: July 16 opener
Post by: WAcoueshunter on August 21, 2020, 08:25:15 PM
My daughter came back out today and was rewarded for the early wake up! 

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