Post by: MADMAX on August 22, 2020, 07:58:15 AM
This is the 3rd year in a row that I have called 3-4 landowners in the area I want to hunt and within 15 minutes of the designated start time and each year have been told "all full up" or no call back (maybe ? this year)
Ive been told by a guy who knows a guy that permission is already taken by year before hunters that reserve when they leave previously
I'm curious about the percentage of guys on here that do get permission/access granted by calling for Type 2 on day and time of application period.
Post by: Hitsman3 on August 22, 2020, 08:42:14 AM
Post by: Stein on August 22, 2020, 09:20:39 AM
This is one instance where WA does a better job, our reservation system is far from perfect but it isn't the complete joke Montana's is.
When you call for a reservation and get through 15 minutes after it's opened and all reservations are taken, just remember that the season is 10 weeks long, which means roughly 70 days that have already been reserved.
There are a few you can get reservations on, but they aren't worth the time.
Post by: MADMAX on August 22, 2020, 09:30:54 AM
Type 2 BMA is a joke, they basically get the money and only let people they want on the land. I did get a reservation one time by some fluke and then the landowner requested I pick up the permit two weeks before the hunt.
This is one instance where WA does a better job, our reservation system is far from perfect but it isn't the complete joke Montana's is.
When you call for a reservation and get through 15 minutes after it's opened and all reservations are taken, just remember that the season is 10 weeks long, which means roughly 70 days that have already been reserved.
There are a few you can get reservations on, but they aren't worth the time.
Thats what Ive been thinking :yeah:
hence my question, wont waste anymore time on it
Good luck boys
Post by: huntandjeep on August 22, 2020, 05:42:19 PM
Post by: HillHound on August 22, 2020, 08:10:57 PM
Post by: Stein on August 22, 2020, 09:37:16 PM
Post by: MADMAX on August 22, 2020, 09:55:23 PM
But they don’t need to have an actual count of hunters that hunted the land?
Hmmm
No bueno
Post by: Stein on August 22, 2020, 10:18:15 PM
So are you saying the landowner gets a check from the state for just offering access?
But they don’t need to have an actual count of hunters that hunted the land?
Hmmm
No bueno
Yep. Sure, I'll give you a count of the hunters in my back yard, what number would you like?
I don't know the amount, in WA it's not much - which is why the pay to hunt clubs keep outbidding the state. In MT, I can't imagine it's a bunch either. I know one ranch that won't answer the phone if it isn't a 406 number and another that doesn't answer the phone. In the past, I would have my brother call from his cell and the odds went up dramatically, but were still not good.
The states like to have XZY acres or ABC properties enrolled which looks good in reports, websites, etc, whether they get used, have game on them or are administered according to the rules isn't as important. You can complain, maybe the state will call the landowner and they will confirm they must have been busy that day because it's booked up. After all, they are a farmer and can't be answering phones all day (which I actually get).
I'm pretty cynical on systems that aren't administered by the state, one of the few times I'm a fan of the state being directly in charge of something.
That said, there are a ton of properties where they really want you there killing the crop eating monsters. I just cross off anything with a reservation and go from there. Plenty of opportunity abounds.
Post by: MADMAX on August 23, 2020, 05:44:10 AM
just thought jeez does this happen to others or am I just picking the wrong ranches to call ?
Thanks, Now I get it.
Post by: Wingin it on August 23, 2020, 05:57:56 AM
Post by: Tbob on August 23, 2020, 10:11:14 PM
It sucks that the type 2 is this way.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 24, 2020, 08:53:27 AM
Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2020, 12:12:31 PM
Post by: Igor on August 24, 2020, 12:44:00 PM
Let's not go there. Please and thank you.
Did I miss something ? This entire thread is informative to those aspiring to hunt in MT.
Post by: h20hunter on August 24, 2020, 12:45:49 PM
Post by: DWBMontana on August 24, 2020, 08:02:35 PM
Yeah I’m starting to think some of the coolers full of crab and salmon that are brought over for the farmers ensure a spot in the next year. I wonder if bear pepperoni will work? Or It’s the same as a lot of property down in the south east corner of Washington. The sign say hunting by written permission only so the farm can get a break on their taxes for allowing access. But then they just have all the family members fill up the slots and it is never actually available to the publicSalmon yes. Bear , no.
Post by: MADMAX on August 25, 2020, 10:54:04 AM