Post by: CA2017 on October 23, 2020, 01:22:11 PM
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Post by: Alchase on October 25, 2020, 05:29:53 PM
This would be my OIL Mule Deer hunt in WA.
Post by: CA2017 on October 25, 2020, 06:38:53 PM
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Post by: CA2017 on October 26, 2020, 09:33:55 AM
Post by: dilleytech on October 26, 2020, 11:27:18 AM
I was lucky enough to draw a chewuch quality deer tag this year. I have spent some time in the unit A few years ago. I am just curious if anybody has spent some time in there this year and what your opinion is on deer population? I have heard it is really bad over there. Hopefully we get some snow up high to push them down.
I just got back, I was fortunate enough to have killed a big 4 by 5, 388 lbs and thats not counting the pile of guts, got close to 250lbs of meat :yike:. Was in a migration route and he came down with 7 other bucks 2 days before the storm hit, 2 were bigger than him, we were over 5 miles from any road and where we were it was 6 degrees. Its not as good as it was 20 or more years ago, not even close but as Ive always said you can still bump into a buck at any time, just get off the beaten track, its a huge unit, the higher you can get, the colder you get and the more miserable you are is where you will see the big boys, just my opinion and :twocents:
250#? Dang that’s a little less then I got off a mature bull elk this fall. That must be a record size deer by .. 100#?
Post by: gee_unit360 on October 26, 2020, 11:34:16 AM
I was lucky enough to draw a chewuch quality deer tag this year. I have spent some time in the unit A few years ago. I am just curious if anybody has spent some time in there this year and what your opinion is on deer population? I have heard it is really bad over there. Hopefully we get some snow up high to push them down.
I just got back, I was fortunate enough to have killed a big 4 by 5, 388 lbs and thats not counting the pile of guts, got close to 250lbs of meat :yike:. Was in a migration route and he came down with 7 other bucks 2 days before the storm hit, 2 were bigger than him, we were over 5 miles from any road and where we were it was 6 degrees. Its not as good as it was 20 or more years ago, not even close but as Ive always said you can still bump into a buck at any time, just get off the beaten track, its a huge unit, the higher you can get, the colder you get and the more miserable you are is where you will see the big boys, just my opinion and :twocents:
Wow do you have pics of this 400 pound buck? I’d love to see that.
Post by: JohnVH on October 26, 2020, 11:41:54 AM
And a 400lb deer? Lets see pics of that thing!
Post by: hunterednate on October 26, 2020, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: dilleytech on October 26, 2020, 01:49:46 PM
400 lbs?? Let's see it!
This isn't my thread, I may start one later about this. There are people who seen this deer, some are on here, he was a big ole boy to say the least. To the OP, good luck, I will be in touch.
Big old mules are cool. But what you killed must be some moose deer hybrid. Anything 0ver 100# would be incredible. 250? Call the papers!
Post by: KP-Skagit on October 26, 2020, 02:03:24 PM
To the OP, I was over in this unit last year for my own personal amusement and saw a number of bucks I would be happy to notch a tag on. I guess it does depend on your personal preference. Most that I would consider shooters were big heavy typical 4x4s. I didn't get up early, and didn't hike around at all (in that particular unit).
A friend had your tag and put it on a heavy 4x2, 30 inches wide, opening day.
If you are looking for the book then it will be a hard hunt. If you are looking for a deer that would make your heart pound in regular season you will probably find him.
Post by: idaho guy on October 26, 2020, 02:12:13 PM
400 lbs?? Let's see it!
This isn't my thread, I may start one later about this. There are people who seen this deer, some are on here, he was a big ole boy to say the least. To the OP, good luck, I will be in touch.
Big old mules are cool. But what you killed must be some moose deer hybrid. Anything 0ver 100# would be incredible. 250? Call the papers!
Mule deer can and do weigh 400 lbs. That is freakishly huge compared to what we normally shoot but its not unheard of. I believe Big mac but we do need some pictures! just because I love looking at huge mule deer :chuckle:
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on October 26, 2020, 02:18:45 PM
400 lbs?? Let's see it!
This isn't my thread, I may start one later about this. There are people who seen this deer, some are on here, he was a big ole boy to say the least. To the OP, good luck, I will be in touch.
Big old mules are cool. But what you killed must be some moose deer hybrid. Anything 0ver 100# would be incredible. 250? Call the papers!
Mule deer can and do weigh 400 lbs. That is freakishly huge compared to what we normally shoot but its not unheard of. I believe Big mac but we do need some pictures! just because I love looking at huge mule deer :chuckle:
Agree, and there are documented cases. Heck one quick google search shows there was a buck shot in Ontario that dressed at 431lbs on certified scales. I would still love to see a picture of the tank.
Post by: CA2017 on October 26, 2020, 02:28:30 PM
Post by: CA2017 on October 26, 2020, 02:42:04 PM
Post by: HikerHunter on October 26, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
400 lbs?? Let's see it!
This isn't my thread, I may start one later about this. There are people who seen this deer, some are on here, he was a big ole boy to say the least. To the OP, good luck, I will be in touch.
Big old mules are cool. But what you killed must be some moose deer hybrid. Anything 0ver 100# would be incredible. 250? Call the papers!
:chuckle:, Its just a big ole buck, not an alien deer, or a laboratory experiment, just a big deer, we've probably killed around 10 or so that Ive personally seen over my 55years plus of hunting that are in the 400-450lbs range on the hoof, the area we have hunted for the last 100 years is an area known for big body genetics. As for 250lbs of meat? We butcher our own and try not to waste for respect to the animal, we got 21 one gallon freezer bags of cubed meat out of this guy, all bags weighed at about 10-12lbs each, we get the rib meat, neck meat and everything else we can for summer sausage and pepperoni, the rest for burger and breakfast sausage, the only things that didn't get cubed was the loins and the backstraps. As for dragging 5 miles, yep kinda, 4 of us for about 2 miles all down hill on snow(from the previous storm about a week earlier) then a horse the rest of the way.....Now let this fella have his thread back, if I feel like it I may post a couple pictures on my own thread :chuckle: :chuckle:...Sorry OP, good luck and Pm sent.
A buck from the unit the OP is asking about is more than relevant to this thread and now he gave you permission! Let's see him!
Post by: Rainier10 on October 26, 2020, 02:58:34 PM
I had spent some time in the unit back in 2014.. I seen a few great bucks and connected with one that scored in the 180s but not the amount of deer I had heard of people seeing.. fast forward to 2018 I spent a little time in the unit and only seen a handful of deer.. few smaller bucks. It really seemed like it was on the decline then. Going into it with no expectations and see what we can turn up.Let's see a pic of that buck from 2014. Everyone loves horn porn.
Post by: Alchase on October 26, 2020, 03:18:56 PM
The butcher said it was the biggest body he had seen that year.
If you figure "real world" close to 2/3rds of a deer is not meat. To get 200 lbs of meat, my guess that deer would have to weight well over 500 on the hoof.
I would find that a hard one to believe without seeing the pictures.
Post by: Igor on October 26, 2020, 03:29:42 PM
I had a big bodied 2x3 knees knocked, no head, gutted and skinned was 189 at the butchers. I got back 138 pounds of meat.
The butcher said it was the biggest body he had seen that year.
If you figure "real world" close to 2/3rds of a deer is not meat. To get 200 lbs of meat, my guess that deer would have to weight well over 500 on the hoof.
I would find that a hard one to believe without seeing the pictures.
So if 2/3rds of a deer is not meat, wouldn't a deer have to weigh around 750 lbs. to get 250 lbs of meat ?
Asking for a friend.
Post by: KP-Skagit on October 26, 2020, 03:49:38 PM
I had a big bodied 2x3 knees knocked, no head, gutted and skinned was 189 at the butchers. I got back 138 pounds of meat.
The butcher said it was the biggest body he had seen that year.
If you figure "real world" close to 2/3rds of a deer is not meat. To get 200 lbs of meat, my guess that deer would have to weight well over 500 on the hoof.
I would find that a hard one to believe without seeing the pictures.
So if 2/3rds of a deer is not meat, wouldn't a deer have to weigh around 750 lbs. to get 250 lbs of meat ?
Asking for a friend.
Personally I feel the meat is the trophy so keep pretty close track. Best I have done was 103 pounds of unpacked meat off a mule deer. It was 205 hanging, gutted, no forelegs, head and hide on. The deer was head shot so zero meat waste and I am very dedicating to getting every scrap I can. Butcher my own, also a sausage maker.
I always figure you get half the hanging weight for a deer that is shot well. I have always gone by the 1/3 of live is meat assumption. Though I feel it overestimates the guts.
I can see 388 but 250 is very surprising, but maybe these larger bucks are proportioned differently. I don't know, this is the closest I have gotten to seeing one!
Post by: jstone on October 26, 2020, 04:08:18 PM
Post by: WSU on October 26, 2020, 04:34:31 PM
Post by: bear on October 26, 2020, 05:55:14 PM
Post by: packmule on October 26, 2020, 06:24:33 PM
Oh for gosh sakes, the buck was 388lbs hanging with no guts, heart, liver or lungs, still had the hide, head and legs on, put all the inside stuff back in and we figured him at 420-450lbs. Man I didn't think this was that big a deal, sure its a big deer but the majority of our bucks are in the 250-350Lbs range, and YES I posted about 50 pictures(out of hundreds that we have) a few years ago and a handful of those were 400lb plus deer, I got many compliments and appreciated every one of them, then I was tipped off that many of my pictures were being copied, why, I have no idea, but I can only imagine, I pulled them all down, I don't need to prove anything, Im about as straight of a shooter as you will find. I may post a picture of this buck or I may not, I have 21 1 gallon freezer bags in my freezer right now, each bag weighs 10-12lbs, I also have 2 backstraps, liver, heart and loins in the freezer, total weight of all is 246lbs....Like I said we butcher our own and don't waste, when we were done all that went over the bank was the vulture picked rib cage, the clean picked legs/hip, neck bone and back bone, we left the gut pile on the hill(30-40lbs) about one bag of bloodshot area went for dog food.....CA2017, I will stay in touch :tup:
I remember those old pictures you posted, and appreciated them. Always look forward to your mule deer input on this site.
Post by: Griiz on October 26, 2020, 06:41:32 PM
Oh for gosh sakes, the buck was 388lbs hanging with no guts, heart, liver or lungs, still had the hide, head and legs on, put all the inside stuff back in and we figured him at 420-450lbs. Man I didn't think this was that big a deal, sure its a big deer but the majority of our bucks are in the 250-350Lbs range, and YES I posted about 50 pictures(out of hundreds that we have) a few years ago and a handful of those were 400lb plus deer, I got many compliments and appreciated every one of them, then I was tipped off that many of my pictures were being copied, why, I have no idea, but I can only imagine, I pulled them all down, I don't need to prove anything, Im about as straight of a shooter as you will find. I may post a picture of this buck or I may not, I have 21 1 gallon freezer bags in my freezer right now, each bag weighs 10-12lbs, I also have 2 backstraps, liver, heart and loins in the freezer, total weight of all is 246lbs....Like I said we butcher our own and don't waste, when we were done all that went over the bank was the vulture picked rib cage, the clean picked legs/hip, neck bone and back bone, we left the gut pile on the hill(30-40lbs) about one bag of bloodshot area went for dog food.....CA2017, I will stay in touch :tup:
Always enjoy your pictures and input. Thx for sharing.
Post by: HikerHunter on October 27, 2020, 08:28:38 AM
Oh for gosh sakes, the buck was 388lbs hanging with no guts, heart, liver or lungs, still had the hide, head and legs on, put all the inside stuff back in and we figured him at 420-450lbs. Man I didn't think this was that big a deal, sure its a big deer but the majority of our bucks are in the 250-350Lbs range, and YES I posted about 50 pictures(out of hundreds that we have) a few years ago and a handful of those were 400lb plus deer, I got many compliments and appreciated every one of them, then I was tipped off that many of my pictures were being copied, why, I have no idea, but I can only imagine, I pulled them all down, I don't need to prove anything, Im about as straight of a shooter as you will find. I may post a picture of this buck or I may not, I have 21 1 gallon freezer bags in my freezer right now, each bag weighs 10-12lbs, I also have 2 backstraps, liver, heart and loins in the freezer, total weight of all is 246lbs....Like I said we butcher our own and don't waste, when we were done all that went over the bank was the vulture picked rib cage, the clean picked legs/hip, neck bone and back bone, we left the gut pile on the hill(30-40lbs) about one bag of bloodshot area went for dog food.....CA2017, I will stay in touch :tup:
Not sure I speak for everyone, but I wasn't trying to get "proof" of your 400+ lb deer. Its not something you see every day and its fun to view them like this :yike:
Post by: dilleytech on October 27, 2020, 09:10:22 AM
Post by: OutHouse on October 27, 2020, 01:22:09 PM
Post by: Backstrap on October 27, 2020, 08:41:47 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2020, 07:13:24 AM
Good luck on that hunt. Pay close attention to bigmacc's posts. I knew the guy that used to own The Outdoorsman in Winthrop. His name was Victor Moss. He had tons of picture of great bucks taken out of 218 that he said were taken up high in the nasty weather on migration routes. Pretty sure some of his mounts went to Sunmountain resort after his death. Post pics I bet you're gonna do well!
Ole Vic Moss.....November general season dates and 1/100th less competition had trophy hunters like Vic Moss killing giants every year. Oh how I wished I could have experienced those days.
Post by: JohnVH on October 28, 2020, 07:50:17 AM
Well, I appreciate the support from some on here, my wife and I will try to figure out how to post a picture from my phone on here, I got the ok from CA2017, he would love to see it also.
Send it to me, I can post it on here for you.
Post by: CA2017 on October 28, 2020, 08:07:56 AM
Post by: OutHouse on October 28, 2020, 09:26:24 AM
Good luck on that hunt. Pay close attention to bigmacc's posts. I knew the guy that used to own The Outdoorsman in Winthrop. His name was Victor Moss. He had tons of picture of great bucks taken out of 218 that he said were taken up high in the nasty weather on migration routes. Pretty sure some of his mounts went to Sunmountain resort after his death. Post pics I bet you're gonna do well!
Ole Vic Moss.....November general season dates and 1/100th less competition had trophy hunters like Vic Moss killing giants every year. Oh how I wished I could have experienced those days.
True. I was probably too young back then to have noticed the advantages. Vic was a nice guy. I first met him on my birthday probably less than 10 years old. As it turned out we shared the same birthday and so whenever I was in the area on my birthday I would stop by and hang out in his store for a while.
Post by: andrebeergog on October 28, 2020, 10:16:56 AM
Thanks!
Post by: Mtnwalker on October 28, 2020, 01:24:44 PM
Posting for bigmacc
Dandy buck bigmacc!
Post by: steeleywhopper on October 28, 2020, 01:36:27 PM
Post by: 7mmfan on October 28, 2020, 01:37:15 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on October 28, 2020, 01:40:22 PM
Thats a huge buck :tup:
Post by: dilleytech on October 28, 2020, 01:41:09 PM
Post by: WSU on October 28, 2020, 01:43:12 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on October 28, 2020, 01:43:38 PM
Post by: gutsnthegrass on October 28, 2020, 01:44:09 PM
Post by: Sutherland on October 28, 2020, 01:45:02 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2020, 01:45:46 PM
Apparently some of you guys don’t remember D man and his 500 pound black tails.
Post by: opdinkslayer on October 28, 2020, 01:48:27 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on October 28, 2020, 02:16:49 PM
Post by: HikerHunter on October 28, 2020, 02:21:39 PM
Post by: CA2017 on October 28, 2020, 02:25:59 PM
Post by: cb1989 on October 28, 2020, 02:27:33 PM
amazing those animals still exist. Seems like something you'd only see in an old black and white photo. Might want to edit your earlier posts to clarify that that thing was shot over off C-post...
Post by: ballpark on October 28, 2020, 02:36:26 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on October 28, 2020, 02:55:43 PM
Post by: OutHouse on October 28, 2020, 03:11:43 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 28, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
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Post by: 7mmfan on October 28, 2020, 03:40:18 PM
I guessed this guy at about 350. His track would be Id'd by most as an elk.
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When they dwarf mature does that are 30 yards closer than them, you know they're big. Great picture of a great animal Bone.
Post by: O. Nerka on October 28, 2020, 03:43:48 PM
Good luck to the Chewuch Quality tag holders. I'm envious.
Post by: MonstroMuley on October 28, 2020, 03:46:34 PM
I guessed this guy at about 350. His track would be Id'd by most as an elk.So the huge tracks I saw running with doe tracks Sunday, 1/2 mile off Chewuch Rd was not Elk? :yike:
Congrats bigmacc on an Outstanding Buck!
Post by: CA2017 on October 28, 2020, 03:49:36 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on October 28, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
I personally have never killed a huge bodied buck, my sons first buck at the age of 12 had a bigger body than any I have ever killed :)
Post by: jstone on October 28, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on October 28, 2020, 04:27:03 PM
Post by: OutHouse on October 28, 2020, 04:54:29 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on October 28, 2020, 05:04:45 PM
This story is of an Idaho buck that my pops killed not a WA buck. Never got weighed live or hanging but got weighed after butchering. 275# of cut and wrapped meat. Scored 263 and change and was 42" wide. Aged at 11 years old. This is not a tale or BS
I personally have never killed a huge bodied buck, my sons first buck at the age of 12 had a bigger body than any I have ever killed :)
I think when you hear bios say that "mule deer can weigh up to 400 lbs"... this is the buck they are talking about.... :o
Post by: sagerat on October 28, 2020, 06:16:33 PM
Post by: blindluck on October 28, 2020, 06:27:29 PM
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Post by: MtnMuley on October 28, 2020, 10:47:13 PM
Post by: rtspring on October 29, 2020, 06:32:19 AM
I'm having a super hard time grasping these numbers being thrown out, but what do I know. Good luck on your tag and I think it's gonna be a good year to have that tag. :tup:
Thats cause all you shoot is those tiny bucks!! Ha
Post by: horsehunter509 on November 01, 2020, 07:40:26 AM
Post by: Odell on November 03, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
To the OP-i had the tag in 2018. Weather was mild and numbers are down. Still a very fun hunt. I ended up killing the 4th biggest buck i saw. I think it was on the 7th or 8th day of hunting.
Also if things up there are the same as down here in Oregon (w biggs unit) the rut is on strong already.
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Post by: blindluck on November 03, 2020, 07:06:01 PM
Post by: millerwheeler on November 03, 2020, 10:12:57 PM
It's been removed from the thread
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Post by: Katmai Guy on November 03, 2020, 10:33:49 PM
Post by: 2MANY on November 04, 2020, 05:51:36 AM
Jealousy and insecurity are powerful Snowflake motivators.
Post by: Alchase on November 04, 2020, 06:59:18 AM
This story is of an Idaho buck that my pops killed not a WA buck. Never got weighed live or hanging but got weighed after butchering. 275# of cut and wrapped meat. Scored 263 and change and was 42" wide. Aged at 11 years old. This is not a tale or BS
I personally have never killed a huge bodied buck, my sons first buck at the age of 12 had a bigger body than any I have ever killed :)
What a beautiful buck!
I could not even imagine trying to drag that bad boy a few miles back to camp.
Post by: CA2017 on November 04, 2020, 11:25:56 AM
Post by: dilleytech on November 04, 2020, 12:38:44 PM
Prolly, because, even though most on here haven't even seen a deer that big, no less shot one, they said they didn't believe the ratio of live weight to boned out meat. (Basically calling him a liar) :twocents: :bash:
Well he said he got 250# of meat off a mule deer so... they were right if they thought that..
Post by: Katmai Guy on November 04, 2020, 12:48:47 PM
Post by: jstone on November 04, 2020, 12:58:58 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 04, 2020, 01:05:31 PM
Post by: jstone on November 04, 2020, 01:10:11 PM
Post by: 2MANY on November 04, 2020, 02:10:38 PM
Prolly, because, even though most on here haven't even seen a deer that big, no less shot one, they said they didn't believe the ratio of live weight to boned out meat. (Basically calling him a liar) :twocents: :bash:
Well he said he got 250# of meat off a mule deer so... they were right if they thought that..
So you were there??
Witnessed the met weights??
That's what I thought.
Sometimes the earth looks flat if you stare at the horizon too.
Post by: HntnFsh on November 04, 2020, 07:50:41 PM
Post by: jstone on November 04, 2020, 08:08:34 PM
Post by: Alchase on November 04, 2020, 08:35:52 PM
Bigmacc, there are many of us who have never shot a 400 lb Muley, after hunting for over 30 years in the same areas you are talking about.
Some of us have never shot a 200” muley while hunting the same areas you are talking about.
Some of us have. Ever shot a 40” wide muley while hunting the same areas you are talking about.
Does that mean they do not exist?
Hardly.
The last year I hunted the Methow, I was about two miles in an area we have hunted every year for 30 years. Usually when trying to recover from the opening weekend excitement.
The kind of area you hunt when you are seriously hurting from previous days, but you don’t want to waste a day by staying in camp, so you pick a well known (to you) spot that you can work into, but still have a shot at a decent buck.
I sat down on a draw that had been burned a few years earlier, and proceeded to eat my lunch. While eating, I glassed every bush in that draw hoping to see something but not really expecting to see much. After about 30 minutes, I stood up to continue around the mountain.
Then something exploded out of the brush about 150 away. :o
The largest buck I have ever seen, easily twice as wide as his ears, humongously tall, double droptine (my holy grail) was bounding away. I had just enough time to throw my rifle up and see how massive this buck was as he disappeared over the finger.
This buck was by far the biggest I have ever seen in all my years of hunting, and he was bedded right in front of me and I did not see him because I did not expect to see him. :bash:
Before that day If anyone would have told my a buck like that could be found there, I would have laughed at them. We had killed dear there, but nothing close to that buck.
So my point is, while hard to comprehend bucks of the size you describe for those of us who have settled for 1/2 that,
Under no circumstances does that mean I question your integrity.
It is more of “what the heck am I doing wrong when I blow a chance at a buck of a lifetime?, in a place that I least expect it”
So ya it is hard for some of us to comprehend a buck of that size, but that’s on us not you.
Post by: blindluck on November 04, 2020, 08:48:19 PM
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on November 04, 2020, 08:52:52 PM
It's a shame that you cant post pics and stories on here without having naysayers slam you. Dont let them win. Keep it up. Incredible animals!
It’s like this with pretty much every post someone makes claiming something. I’m certain we have missed out on seeing some amazing animals due to their actions.
Post by: jstone on November 05, 2020, 08:28:37 AM
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Post by: Buckmark on November 05, 2020, 10:36:47 AM
Post by: CA2017 on November 05, 2020, 10:40:23 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 05, 2020, 10:47:53 AM
This story is of an Idaho buck that my pops killed not a WA buck. Never got weighed live or hanging but got weighed after butchering. 275# of cut and wrapped meat. Scored 263 and change and was 42" wide. Aged at 11 years old. This is not a tale or BS
I personally have never killed a huge bodied buck, my sons first buck at the age of 12 had a bigger body than any I have ever killed :)
I know Bigmacc and I got called *censored*ters which for me is OK. Doesnt hurt my feelings at all. It is hard to believe there are Bucks that big out there when most of us shoot 2-4 year old bucks
I talked to my mom for some clarification, my dad is no longer with us. She said 270# of cut and wrapped, they cut their own. She said this was with Heart, Liver, ribs and all made into burger as they already had a Bull, Cow and Calf in the freezer and it was such an old buck. Not sure what the organs, ribs and beef fat would add up to but thats what she said. My dad killed a bunch of big bucks, body and antler wise. He probably had 20 that I will never top. He only entered this one in B/C because some buddies ,made him. I know he won widest Muledeer contest one time where he had a 41" typical 4 pt. He won a Winchester 30-30. He said it wasnt too special if a buck as it didnt have much mass or character :)
Every animal he killed prior to 1956 when he killed this one was stolen out of his barn in Idaho in 1957 when he moved to Seattle to work for Boeing. Monster Bucks, Bulls and Antelope. The only one he brought to Seattle was this one. He and his 2 bothers killed some monsters in the 40's and 50's.
Just wanted to give my perspective on comments and sorry I was part of getting this off topic. I have no doubt of my dads claims because I never heard him stretch the truth or BS. If he said it, it happened
Post by: cbond3318 on November 05, 2020, 10:52:28 AM
Good luck on the tag CA2017, I'll be creeping the area next week just for fun, I'll keep my eyes open for you. :tup:
Post by: jstone on November 05, 2020, 11:54:37 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on November 05, 2020, 12:00:07 PM
I'm just over here hoping one day I can have a cup of coffee with Bigmacc and hear some stories. Nothing better than when history meets mule deer.
Good luck on the tag CA2017, I'll be creeping the area next week just for fun, I'll keep my eyes open for you. :tup:
I think that would be an incredible experience!
Post by: jstone on November 05, 2020, 12:03:44 PM
I love this time of year.!!
Post by: 2MANY on November 05, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
It was a good thing and no apology should be necessary from these folks.
Best of luck to the hunter.
You are beyond fortunate to have Mac on your team.
Post by: 2MANY on November 05, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
Seems weird but welcome to Hunt WA.
Post by: Odell on November 05, 2020, 04:04:35 PM
It doesn't make the person who claimed it a liar, he could be accurate, he could be mistaken.
Bottom line is that it would likely make this buck the largest ever killed. We see records being broken regularly and none of them have bodies of this size. In general I believe it to be healthy to be slow to believe what someone posts on the internet.
That said, the poster is clearly a man of experience and has forgotten more than most of us will ever know about mule deer. Its unfortunate that our disagreement over the pounds has to taint the entire thing.
http://www.wyomingextension.org/agpubs/pubs/B589R.pdf
Post by: OutHouse on November 05, 2020, 04:28:02 PM
Post by: 10thmountainarcher on November 05, 2020, 04:34:53 PM
I saw the deer before the pic was removed. It was enormous. The guy standing next to him was probably much bigger than an average man and he looked teeny tiny.
Same here, the deer in the photograph appeared bigger then my rag horn 4x5 bull I shot.
Post by: cbond3318 on November 05, 2020, 04:48:09 PM
Post by: Alchase on November 05, 2020, 05:19:15 PM
Some real pigs
REAL SLOBBERKNOCKERS: THE 4 HEAVIEST DEER OF ALL TIME
- Sunday September 23, 2018 - Daniel Schmidt
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There was a day not so long ago when deer hunters across North America were absolutely fascinated with big bucks.
No, not big racks — big bucks. Huge, giant, monstrous creatures. Or, as the old-timers called them, “real slobberknockers.”
Antlers were adored, but they were almost secondary when it came to describing a buck’s status. “What did he weigh?” was often the first question asked of a successful hunter. This infatuation hasn’t died completely. A buck’s hog-dressed weight is still a badge of honor for hunters in the Northeast, Upper Great Lakes and Canada.
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Lee Lakosky shot a buck he called ‘Gnarls Barkely’ a few years ago. This deer tipped the scales at nearly 300 pounds on the hoof. (Photo: Lee and Tiffany Lakosky of The Crush TV)
From what we can gather, the heaviest whitetail ever shot was killed by a bow-hunter, John Annett of Ontario, in 1977. The deer field dressed 431 pounds on government-certified scales. That would have given it an estimated live weight of more than 540 pounds. However, reports indicate the buck was butchered before Canadian authorities could inspect it.
Second place seemingly belongs to a 402-pound Minnesota buck killed by Carl Lenander Jr. in 1926. Conservation officials estimated the live weight at 511 pounds.
This giant buck was shot near Gaspe Quebec in Fall 2005. It field-dressed at 260 pounds, making its live weight well near the 300-pound mark.
This giant buck was shot near Gaspe Quebec in Fall 2005. It field-dressed at 260 pounds, making its live weight well near the 300-pound mark.
Third place would go to a Maine buck killed by Horace R. Hinckley in 1955. Hinckley reportedly spent three days searching for a scale large enough to properly weigh his buck. With a Maine Sealer of Weights witness present, the buck officially tipped the scales at 355 pounds, giving it a live weight of 451 pounds. Hinckley’s buck had a 28-inch neck girth and a 56-inch chest girth.
Fourth place goes to a 321-pound buck killed in Bayfield County, Wisconsin, in 1938. We don’t know the hunter’s name, but the weight was verified. Fifth place would have to go to a buck killed in New York in 1946. That deer officially weighed 291 pounds dressed.
These rankings are open for debate. While researching this topic with my friend Keith McCaffery, a retired deer research biologist, we found several mentions of heavier deer. However, none of those weights were verified. Included in that list are a 1907 Wisconsin buck that allegedly weighed 437 pounds dressed, and a 1924 Wisconsin buck that weighed 386 pounds.
https://www.deeranddeerhunting.com/content/blogs/dan-schmidt-deer-blog-whitetail-wisdom/deer-pictures-real-slobberknockers
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 05, 2020, 05:19:23 PM
Here’s a Chewuch buck from tonight. He’s no dick dragger (copyright to Timberstalker) but the swollen neck and 6 does he was nudging is a good sign CA2017.
Looks like a career two point in the making.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on November 05, 2020, 05:25:25 PM
Post by: Alchase on November 05, 2020, 05:26:02 PM
Here’s a Chewuch buck from tonight. He’s no dick dragger (copyright to Timberstalker) but the swollen neck and 6 does he was nudging is a good sign CA2017.
Looks like a career two point in the making.
I would shoot him if legal :dunno:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 05, 2020, 05:28:23 PM
Here’s a Chewuch buck from tonight. He’s no dick dragger (copyright to Timberstalker) but the swollen neck and 6 does he was nudging is a good sign CA2017.
Looks like a career two point in the making.
I would shoot him if legal :dunno:
Legal all day with a QT.🤣
Post by: cbond3318 on November 05, 2020, 06:51:46 PM
Here’s a Chewuch buck from tonight. He’s no dick dragger (copyright to Timberstalker) but the swollen neck and 6 does he was nudging is a good sign CA2017.
Looks like a career two point in the making.
I would shoot him if legal :dunno:
Legal all day with a QT.🤣
He had a small 3rd on his right but agree he won’t be much different next year.
Post by: boneaddict on November 06, 2020, 06:36:49 AM
Were your comments worth it? Do you feel better? The guy put up a a photo of a gigantic deer not that he had to prove himself. And even if he was exaggerating (not saying he was), who gives a *censored*.
There’s some post on here somewhere of some Washington giant that scores 193 inches. I have probably 10 racks in my pile that I haven’t even posted pics on here of bucks I’ve harvest that are bigger. 193 inches my ass. It doesn’t mean I crapped on the guys parade.
And RT...I’m calling you out. The way you exaggerate and tell “fish” stories, you shouldn’t be casting stones brother. :chuckle:
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Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 14, 2020, 01:42:43 PM
Congrats!!
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Post by: Griiz on November 15, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
I filled my 218 quality tag but it won't let me post a picture.Have you tried posting a screenshot of picture? Congratulations!
Post by: 7mmfan on November 15, 2020, 01:31:13 PM
I filled my 218 quality tag but it won't let me post a picture.Have you tried posting a screenshot of picture? Congratulations!
:yeah: take a screenshot and then post the screenshot. Works 90% of the time every time
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Post by: zwickeyman on April 25, 2021, 05:30:06 PM
This story is of an Idaho buck that my pops killed not a WA buck. Never got weighed live or hanging but got weighed after butchering. 275# of cut and wrapped meat. Scored 263 and change and was 42" wide. Aged at 11 years old. This is not a tale or BS
I personally have never killed a huge bodied buck, my sons first buck at the age of 12 had a bigger body than any I have ever killed :)
Bigmacc,
I know you have seen plenty of bucks like him. I havent been so fortunate. Thanks for the reply
What a beautiful buck!
I could not even imagine trying to drag that bad boy a few miles back to camp.
Remember though zwickeyman, bucks ain’t built that big anymore, dang, can’t find the wink emoji thing, that’s an awesome buck👍. Sorry , thought I’d come back here and ruffle a few more feathers😆.
Post by: Ironhead on April 25, 2021, 05:47:58 PM
Post by: bigmacc on April 25, 2021, 08:49:34 PM
PM sent zwickeyman :tup: