Post by: luteai on October 27, 2020, 02:07:20 PM
The .260 never caught on, but 6.5 Creedmoor has caught fire. Is there an advantage to the Creedmoor Vs. the .260 or the 6.5 X 55?
Just pondering these things :) On hiatus from work awaiting Covid test results! All 3 of my children (now adults) use a 7mm-08 like me, Unfortunately my wife passed away and only hunts with us in spirit now.
Post by: callturner on October 27, 2020, 02:22:56 PM
Mike
Post by: Igor on October 27, 2020, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: h20hunter on October 27, 2020, 02:40:20 PM
Magum calibers had their heyday.....I think that currently it's as simple as lighter calibers are more than ever capable of lethality, accuracy, and are a joy to shoot.
Post by: h20hunter on October 27, 2020, 02:43:13 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on October 27, 2020, 03:00:31 PM
Post by: Stein on October 27, 2020, 03:05:09 PM
I'm also curious about all of the recent 6.5 hoopla. As a long time .270 Win. and .30-06 reloader, I have not seen anything that makes me believe that they have suddenly become obsolete in favor of the various 6.5 caibers. What am I missing ?
I shoot 30-06 exclusively and have been toying over the idea of adding a 6.5 PRC to the stable next year. With the 30-06, it's a great cartridge for many reasons out to about 400 yards for elk, 500 for deer or antelope. I could get 50 more yards by bumping up the powder, but like any cartridge it has it's limitations. I probably could move around with the .308 bullet weights and shapes and powders and optimize it for a bit more range as well.
The 6.5 PRC can stretch that out a bit which would be really nice especially for antelope. I hunt them in a few areas that are pool table flat and awfully hard to sneak up on a herd of those things closer than 400-500. I can usually get closer, but have not taken shots and not harvested those animals by trying to get closer or moving on.
I don't see it as a total game changer, just something else to mess with, especially for people who also want to mess around with longer target shooting and some competitions.
I could do the same thing with a .300 win mag, so it's not like a new door was opened with the 6.5s, but it is more appealing to me to think about shooting a 6.5 all day at the range over a magnum and I do like shooting even if just for the fun of it.
Post by: CP on October 27, 2020, 03:19:38 PM
Is there an advantage to the Creedmoor Vs. the .260 or the 6.5 X 55?
I can't vouch for the other 2 but I have a Thompson Center Compass 6.5 CM. It's a sub $300 rifle that easily plinks tennis balls at 250 yards. Low recoil, relatively inexpensive ammo, easy to reload. I give it a :tup:
Post by: jrebel on October 27, 2020, 03:33:19 PM
Our family shoots 7-08 and .270 win. All are good calibers and I wouldn't say the 6.5 is superior to either of them. With that said the 6.5 creed is a pleasure to shoot and load for. It is accurate and with a 140 grain accubond, I wouldn't hesitate shooting anything in north america with it. The two bear we have taken with it were one shot kills with no tracking needed. :tup:
Post by: theleo on October 27, 2020, 03:37:14 PM
Post by: b23 on October 27, 2020, 05:22:35 PM
In a short action used as a repeater not single feeding, AND, staying within SAAMI pressures the 6.5 Creedmoor will equal or slightly out pace the 260 Rem. Again, doesn't mean one is better than the other but rather the 6.5 CM when placed in the above restrictions will perform slightly better.
I've always been a big fan of the 6.5x55 Swede. Any cartridge that has been around for well over 100 years and is still being chambered in modern day guns says a lot for it but because of its case length it really needs a medium or long action for it to perform to its best ability.
Post by: jasnt on October 27, 2020, 06:10:01 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on October 27, 2020, 07:31:19 PM
Post by: bear on October 27, 2020, 07:44:55 PM
Post by: Angry Perch on October 28, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Post by: luteai on October 28, 2020, 07:36:43 PM
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Post by: huntandjeep on October 29, 2020, 12:55:28 PM
Post by: buckfvr on October 29, 2020, 01:58:18 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 29, 2020, 02:04:58 PM
My PRC is almost ready. And my kids creed isa joy to shoot and has one shot one killed some nice animals.
Post by: callturner on October 29, 2020, 02:06:32 PM
Post by: fishngamereaper on October 29, 2020, 02:17:55 PM
A Browning Hells Canyon?
Ya. Xbolt speed.
Can't wait to shoot it. Just need to find time.
Post by: Miles on October 29, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
I like the Swede as it doesn’t require a man bun to operate...
Post by: luteai on October 29, 2020, 09:34:49 PM
Post by: Alchase on October 29, 2020, 10:36:00 PM
Lets compare real world statistics between the 6.5 CM and the 300 Win Mag.
6.5 Creedmoor with a 143 grain ELD-X bullet going 2700 fps reaches the
minimum energy to kill a deer at just over 750 yards, it reaches the
minimum energy to kill an elk at 400 yards.
A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough
minimum energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and
minimum energy to kill an elk at just past 900 yards.
Obviously, these numbers only take into consideration the energy required and don’t consider whether the shooter is skilled enough or should be shooting those distances.
Species Max Range 6.5 Creedmoor Max Range 300 Win Mag
THESE ARE MINIMUMS
Deer (Min Energy 1000 ft/lbs.) 6.5 CM 750 Yards 300 WM 1200 Yards
Elk (Min Energy 1500 ft/lbs.) 6.5 CM 400 Yards 300 WM 900 Yards
Realistically, there is only two things the 6.5 Cm does better that a 300 Win Mag,
1. Felt Reduced recoil
2. Mandatory man bun before shooting
Synopsis:
The 6.5 CM is more than capable of taking game (in the lower 48) out past distances that your average hunter will ever reach.
In no way is it bullisticaly comparable to the 300 WIn Mag.
Post by: wadu1 on October 29, 2020, 10:44:51 PM
"I like the Swede as it doesn’t require a man bun to operate..." :chuckle:Vel Swetnick Dat Thar is funny. After 100 years the 6.5 Swede is still going, my choice also. Mine is a CZFS and the little brother of my CZFS 9.3X62.
Post by: Widgeondeke on October 29, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
I am shooting Nosler 142gr Accubonds. I shot 2 lopes this year, both frontal shots. The doe was knock on her butt at 185yds, got up and then flipped over. The bullet exited through the back leg. The buck was shot at 215yds and I destroyed the shoulder and a lung. Bullet also broke some ribs and exited bout 6 ribs back.
I have been very happy with these rifles.
They are easy to shoot and (knock on wood) have yet to miss the animal we shot at 8)
Post by: Mulie87 on October 29, 2020, 11:15:32 PM
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Post by: mountainman on November 01, 2020, 10:41:43 AM
Love my 6.5 PRC. 143grn Hornady ELD-x at 2930fps. It’s a flat shooting laser with .322” group at 100yds.The PRC is everything the Creedmore wanted to be but isn't.
Post by: jasnt on November 01, 2020, 06:48:19 PM
too bad they can’t seem to get the dies right. Many of the 6.5 prc dies will not size the base enoughLove my 6.5 PRC. 143grn Hornady ELD-x at 2930fps. It’s a flat shooting laser with .322” group at 100yds.The PRC is everything the Creedmore wanted to be but isn't.
Post by: snake on November 01, 2020, 06:50:32 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on November 01, 2020, 07:22:25 PM
Without going down a rabbit hole, how does a 6.5 compare to a 243? Looking for a gun for my wife.Its bigger ! :) If shooting elk mite squeeze by with 6.5, if just deer 243 is great unless you want to borrow hers then get the 6.5!
Post by: CaNINE on November 01, 2020, 07:33:26 PM
Post by: The Big Game Hunter on November 28, 2020, 10:21:59 AM
Back in the early 90's I chose the 7mm-08 for a big game caliber. As a reloader, it has great versatility. When Remington came out with the .260, I nearly switched over as my wife started hunting with me. I was always a fan of the 6.5 X 55, but with my petite wife a short action Rem model 7 was a perfect fit, and the one we found was in 7mm-08.
The .260 never caught on, but 6.5 Creedmoor has caught fire. Is there an advantage to the Creedmoor Vs. the .260 or the 6.5 X 55?
Just pondering these things :) On hiatus from work awaiting Covid test results! All 3 of my children (now adults) use a 7mm-08 like me, Unfortunately my wife passed away and only hunts with us in spirit now.
Check out the articles below for comprehensive and detailed comparisons of the 6.5 Creedmoor vs the .260 Rem, the 6.5 Swede, the .243 Winchester, and the 7mm-08 Remington. As you'll see, there is quite a bit of overlap in performance and capability with all of those cartridges.
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/260-remington-vs-6-5-creedmoor-vs-6-5x55-swede/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/6-5-creedmoor-vs-243/
https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/6-5-creedmoor-vs-7mm-08/
Post by: buckfvr on November 28, 2020, 12:12:23 PM
Same velocities from my .243 but with a 105gr bullet.
Make sure your barrel twist supports the heavy for caliber bullet selection if you go that way. Also dont just look at muzzle velocity stability, look at down range velocities to determine where/when the bullets enter marginal or worse stability.
Post by: Oh Mah on November 28, 2020, 01:34:12 PM
127 GRAIN Barnes LRX
3531 fps. 3516 foot pounds of energy.
surpasses the .300 Weatherby at 500 yards in both energy and velocity.
Not much more needs to be said.All firearms are great but if you want the best in a specific caliber these little steps matter. :twocents:
Post by: Oh Mah on November 28, 2020, 01:44:05 PM
They’re fun to shoot. Not a lot of knockdown power. Most seem to shoot well. On the small side for mule deer or bear.lots of knock down power,its in the top 10 for moose.
Post by: gadwall on December 02, 2020, 09:53:10 PM