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Title: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 11:07:12 AM
I went to Bi Mart, Sportsmen's, and Big 5 - no 9mm and they all say the same thing. The shipments are bought out within 30 minutes of arrival. Due to street violence and people thinking Biden will be elected. Is everyone here seeing the same thing? How about online?
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: vandeman17 on October 30, 2020, 11:14:56 AM
I went to Bi Mart, Sportsmen's, and Big 5 - no 9mm and they all say the same thing. The shipments are bought out within 30 minutes of arrival. Due to street violence and people thinking Biden will be elected. Is everyone here seeing the same thing? How about online?

guy I work with ordered some online months ago from sportsmans guide and they were on backorder. Said they would be available in October. Got an email a few weeks ago they are now looking at January. They are just regular target 9mm rounds
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 11:17:47 AM
I went to Bi Mart, Sportsmen's, and Big 5 - no 9mm and they all say the same thing. The shipments are bought out within 30 minutes of arrival. Due to street violence and people thinking Biden will be elected. Is everyone here seeing the same thing? How about online?

guy I work with ordered some online months ago from sportsmans guide and they were on backorder. Said they would be available in October. Got an email a few weeks ago they are now looking at January. They are just regular target 9mm rounds

The only stock I see online is regular FMJ 124s for $1.50/rnd. Kind of absurd.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Badhabit on October 30, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
Check here

https://www.laxammo.com/lax-factory-new/handgun-new/9-mm-new
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Rob on October 30, 2020, 11:25:18 AM
This is also a good startingpoint:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Bill W on October 30, 2020, 11:27:59 AM
I had a guy looking for 9mm the other day to load some mags.  Asked him how much he had at home at the moment and the reply was 3K.... and he was looking for still more.  We were out.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 12:01:19 PM
This is also a good startingpoint:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

Got it done! Thanks,
PMan
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: b23 on October 30, 2020, 12:10:10 PM
This is also a good startingpoint:
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger

ammoseek and https://gun.deals/ are the two I used the most.  I think there are others and they may be good too but these are the two I usually use to find stuff and check prices.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 12:15:25 PM
Now to see if the product ships!
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: SteelheadTed on October 30, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
I'm surprised you are just now noticing, this has been an issue for a while.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 12:38:13 PM
Order Status Update: Availability expected in 2-4 months.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 12:40:11 PM
I'm surprised you are just now noticing, this has been an issue for a while.

I hadn't noticed because I had 2K+ stored. But, I've been upping my game at the range and going through a good chunk. I just want to keep up with usage if I can.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: SteelheadTed on October 30, 2020, 12:55:02 PM
I'm surprised you are just now noticing, this has been an issue for a while.

I hadn't noticed because I had 2K+ stored. But, I've been upping my game at the range and going through a good chunk. I just want to keep up with usage if I can.

If you can wait, I would.  You'll pay a premium on the ammo right now, it's bound to level off at some point.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 30, 2020, 12:55:57 PM
I'm surprised you are just now noticing, this has been an issue for a while.

I hadn't noticed because I had 2K+ stored. But, I've been upping my game at the range and going through a good chunk. I just want to keep up with usage if I can.

If you can wait, I would.  You'll pay a premium on the ammo right now, it's bound to level off at some point.

I'm waiting.  :tup:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Ridgerunner on October 30, 2020, 02:17:07 PM
I don't see ammo being readily available for at least 6 months, I think you will be waiting a long time.  Every chance I get to purchase some I do, but most places are out and limiting it to 1 box per person.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: KFhunter on October 30, 2020, 02:20:02 PM
Just be ready to buy when all the anti gun libs go to sell their stuff in a few months when they realize there'll never be a commy revolution and go back to being anti gun

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Crunchy on October 30, 2020, 02:22:40 PM
Have to stockpile the goods.  Got a few cases of both 9 and 40. 
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Stein on October 30, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
The ammo hoarding is getting a bit over the top.  Every time someone in DC passes gas or rumors of it circulate nebulous "news" websites, a ton of guys think they need another 10k of .22, 9mm and whatever else they have.  Now, people actually trying to shoot are hoarding to get ahead of the hoarders.  Apparently there is no limit to what a bunch of people think they need to stack in their basement.

I had to stop watching YouTube, it kept trying to suggest I watch every Tom, Dick and Harry's "ammo haul" where they show how many cases they bought in a 400 mile Walmart loop.

Crazy stuff.  I'm glad I don't shoot IDPA anymore, it would drive me nuts.  Luckily I have enough for what I need and want to do for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 30, 2020, 03:17:53 PM
Now to see if the product ships!

Keep checking SGammo, They get some now and again, along with other rounds. And then it is gone soon after.  Just trying to find some decent 30-06 takes longer than an act of Congress.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: huntandjeep on October 30, 2020, 03:33:53 PM
Now is not the time to be buying . Prices are sky high , because supply is limited . Should have started the Ammo fort months ago   :chuckle:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: krapmit on October 30, 2020, 03:35:35 PM
iF ANYONE WANTS TO LOAD THEIR OWN. I have access to thousands of casings.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Angry Perch on October 30, 2020, 03:47:40 PM
Just be ready to buy when all the anti gun libs go to sell their stuff in a few months when they realize there'll never be a commy revolution and go back to being anti gun

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I don't think they're the ones emptying the shelves.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Russ McDonald on October 30, 2020, 04:46:24 PM
Sgammo.com got 500 of 9mm rounds within 2 weeks.  Also decided to get 840 rounds of 5.56.

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Russ McDonald on October 30, 2020, 04:58:25 PM
Sgammo.com got 500 of 9mm rounds within 2 weeks.  Also decided to get 840 rounds of 5.56.

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https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/9mm-luger-ammo

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Machias on October 30, 2020, 07:15:58 PM
Hey thanks for this guys.  Been going to multiple places over the past couple of weeks trying to find some 9mm for my wife's new handgun.  She has a concealed carry class coming up in early Dec and needs 100 rounds for that class.  Plus I wanted some for her to get familiar with prior to the class.  Just ordered 175 rounds from the link Russ just posted.  Appreciate it guys!!
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: HntnFsh on October 30, 2020, 07:28:11 PM
Guess I was lucky to run across several hundred rounds of 9mm and 380 while I was in Walla Walla last weekend. 9mm was $11.99 a box of 50 for fiochi target ammo and .380 was $19.99 box of 50 Browning target ammo. There are fair prices to be had if your patient and look around. Same place had tons of .22 many other pistol calibers and well stocked in the usual rifle hunting calibers.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Geoduck Duck Goose on November 02, 2020, 09:04:08 PM
Fortunately, I've always ratholed ammo away. But I don't see this shortage going away for a long time.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: bornhunter on November 02, 2020, 09:26:44 PM
Sgammo.com got 500 of 9mm rounds within 2 weeks.  Also decided to get 840 rounds of 5.56.

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How much was the 556?
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: csaaphill on November 02, 2020, 09:48:34 PM
9mm the new gold?
lol I got some I never finished shooting. I'll take 30-06 if you want :chuckle:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 03, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
In the obozo years the shipments of ammo went from a pallet of ammo to one case of ammo so it only take a few people to buy up a case of ammo.
If you didn't stock up when you had the chance you will not beable to stock up for some time to come.
Ammp is at a premium right now. You can't buy what is not available. Wait until tomorrow after Trump wins, the libs will be rioting again all across the country.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 03, 2020, 08:13:00 AM
Sgammo.com got 500 of 9mm rounds within 2 weeks.  Also decided to get 840 rounds of 5.56.

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https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/9mm-luger-ammo

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This was my first choice. No 124g FMJ except for very small boxes at not-so-very-small cost. I can wait a few months. Thanks Russ.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: woodswalker on November 03, 2020, 08:48:49 AM
Fortunately, I've always ratholed ammo away. But I don't see this shortage going away for a long time.

There is a reason i am loading the 5 gallon bucket of spent cases from the shop.  Used to save it to sell to the reloaders...now I am reloading for my own shooting and some for shop test shooting of repaired guns.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: konradcountry on November 05, 2020, 11:21:51 AM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 05, 2020, 12:09:20 PM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

Good Idea.  :tup:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 06, 2020, 03:14:14 PM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

Yep.  I went looking for 30-06.  I found tons of WSM, 6.5 manbun, PRCs, and of course the Weatherbys and RUM's. 
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Special T on November 06, 2020, 04:03:01 PM
Makes me wonder about reloading componets... i dont have a reloader but have kept my brass and still have primers...

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: boneaddict on November 06, 2020, 04:22:33 PM
I found three boxes in my closet when I was digging for something today. It felt like Christmas.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Special T on November 06, 2020, 07:04:41 PM
I will say that a Glock with different barrels sounds like a good investment. If you own a 40 the a 357 sig should do the trick!
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: highside74 on November 06, 2020, 07:08:44 PM
Federal way Sportsman's had 147gr 9mm for $16 limit 2 today. Half was gone by the time I walked away from the gun counter after fondling a Ridgeline in 6.5PRC
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Russ McDonald on November 06, 2020, 07:19:15 PM
I have a .40, .45 and a .357 and haven't seen much of that ammo in stores.   The 9mm is my wife's. 

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Bango skank on November 06, 2020, 07:29:45 PM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

Yep.  I went looking for 30-06.  I found tons of WSM, 6.5 manbun, PRCs, and of course the Weatherbys and RUM's.

I saw plento of 30-06 at sportsmans spokane when i was there about a month or so ago.  Also manbun, 243, 7mag, 7mm-08, 270 etc etc.  Zero 308 or 223, and the only handgun ammo they had was a few boxes of 32auto.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 06, 2020, 10:17:04 PM
Thanks. I'll have to stop in.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: BackStrappin on November 07, 2020, 01:11:49 AM
Buy cheap and stack deep is the motto I live by.  I was getting cases of 9mm shipped right around $165 a year or two ago.  I guess I took advantage, 7k rounds hopefully should last while the ammo shortage plays out
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Special T on November 07, 2020, 04:55:05 AM
Buy cheap and stack deep is the motto I live by.  I was getting cases of 9mm shipped right around $165 a year or two ago.  I guess I took advantage, 7k rounds hopefully should last while the ammo shortage plays out
Ya when you can buy for damned near the price of reloading how can you go wrong? I kept sharing with everyone the 35c a round buckshot off Midway USA... everyone asked why would you need 250 rounds?

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: bearpaw on November 07, 2020, 05:41:02 AM
This was already a year of hoarding guns and ammo, shelves are empty across the west, and I've heard all over the country. With the election results developing, its going to get worse!  :yike:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Alchase on November 07, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
 :yeah:

And prices are going to go through the roof for the limited stock available.  :bash:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 07, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

I looked around locally for a 10mm and ammo - none. I've got enough. I just need to wait for my Feb shipment.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: CP on November 07, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

I looked around locally for a 10mm and ammo - none. I've got enough. I just need to wait for my Feb shipment.

No, there hasn't been any 10mm around here for months. 
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 09, 2020, 03:17:02 PM
SGammo lists exactly zero right now for 9 mm, 10 mm. .40 SW, and .45 ACP. 

Not just no preferred plinking ammo, or no bulk ammo.  None.  Not even the esoteric spendy wonder rounds.  It's bizarre.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 10, 2020, 05:56:23 PM
SGammo has 5.56 right now.  Prices are . . . special.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Lucky1 on November 10, 2020, 06:13:49 PM
Cheaper than Dirt has 9MM for about $60 for a 50 round box of FMJ.  :yike:
I was buying it for 20 cents a round not long ago. Incredible, I guess if you just bought a gun, you need some ammo.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Rob on November 10, 2020, 06:33:05 PM
Hooked on Toys in Wenatchee had 40 sw last weekend.

They had quite a bit of ammo, but no 9mm or 22LR.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Caseyd on November 10, 2020, 07:09:45 PM
It will only get worse
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: konradcountry on November 16, 2020, 12:20:48 PM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

Yep.  I went looking for 30-06.  I found tons of WSM, 6.5 manbun, PRCs, and of course the Weatherbys and RUM's.

I've got plenty of 30-06 if you still need some. Don't mind selling a few boxes.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Stein on November 16, 2020, 12:31:25 PM
I have 30-06, 12 gauge self defense and 7.62x39 if anyone needs some in the short term.  Shoot me a pm if interested.  Also have 9mm reloads for practice (MT Gold JHP).
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: konradcountry on November 16, 2020, 12:44:55 PM
It will only get worse

Half this country thinks you can order a fully auto AK by mail.

I wish.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 16, 2020, 01:05:52 PM
This is why it is good to have an unpopular caliber in addition to 9mm.

Plenty of 10mm here.

Yep.  I went looking for 30-06.  I found tons of WSM, 6.5 manbun, PRCs, and of course the Weatherbys and RUM's.

I've got plenty of 30-06 if you still need some. Don't mind selling a few boxes.

Thanks.  It's a new to me rifle, and I am not going to get it set up until after the season, so I am biding my time.  I have some 150s and some 180s, but finding 165s are like looking for hen's teeth. 
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Tenkara on November 16, 2020, 01:09:03 PM
https://www.ammoland.com/2020/11/winchester-9mm-luger-124grain-fmj-ammunition/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=1fe182de71-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-1fe182de71-22095987#axzz6dzhOklyI
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 20, 2020, 01:18:42 PM
25 in stock.  Don't wait.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/9mm-luger-ammo/200-round-range-pack-9mm-luger-115-grain-fmj-target-range-bulk-ammo-sale-winc
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Stein on November 20, 2020, 01:24:14 PM
25 in stock.  Don't wait.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/9mm-luger-ammo/200-round-range-pack-9mm-luger-115-grain-fmj-target-range-bulk-ammo-sale-winc

With shipping, $0.76 per round.   :yike:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 20, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
Too expensive (.70/rnd) and you can only order 1. Thanks for thinking of me, though
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: konradcountry on November 22, 2020, 09:26:27 AM
I saw plenty when I was in Oregon.

Check around the Gresham area. Probably like 5 gun owners there.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 22, 2020, 09:40:19 AM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Cougartail on November 22, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 29, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
Everything is turning up Milhouse.

I managed to pick up a rifle for my youngest and brass, powder, and bullets for a reloading project, all at the same place.

I better go buy a lottery ticket.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Hilltop123 on November 29, 2020, 02:03:02 PM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.
What off brand does Bi-Mart sell?
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 29, 2020, 02:56:47 PM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.

Thanks for the thought. I do close training - 15 yards and under. The quality of the ammo isn't as important as the quantity and the quality of the shooter.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: HntnFsh on November 29, 2020, 04:21:16 PM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.
What off brand does Bi-Mart sell?

Fiochi?
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Cougartail on November 29, 2020, 08:14:54 PM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.
What off brand does Bi-Mart sell?

They have been getting in anything they can find. I didn't recognize the brand ?
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: wadu1 on November 29, 2020, 08:39:43 PM
I'll take a ride down today. Thanks.  :tup:

I almost bought you a couple boxes at Bi-mart yesterday. 115 fmj Box of 50 for $11.98.

 Was an off brand so I didn't.
What off brand does Bi-Mart sell?

Fiochi?
Nothing wrong with Fiochi, shot a bunch of 9mm and i don't know how many thousands of shot shells not on failure.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 02, 2020, 01:11:21 PM
Hi desert in Goldendale will load you some if you can get a hold of some small pistol primers
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 18, 2020, 06:36:29 AM
https://www.sgammo.com/product/lake-city-ammo-sale/1000-rounds-lake-city-223-rem-55-grain-ball-ammo-ar-15-rifle-packed-m2a1

https://www.sgammo.com/product/remington-ammo-sale/500-round-case-9mm-luger-147-grain-mc-fmj-remington-umc-subsonic-ammo-l9

Other items of each in stock.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 18, 2020, 07:09:46 AM
They sure are making good profits off of the shortage. When I ordered last month, That same case of 500 9mm was 199.99. I'm glad I ordered.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 18, 2020, 10:46:33 AM
They sure are making good profits off of the shortage. When I ordered last month, That same case of 500 9mm was 199.99. I'm glad I ordered.

I hit the piggy bank back in late February, when people were hoarding TP.  I am laughing at prices today.  But I wanted to let people who are behind the curve know anyway.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2021, 08:10:04 AM
SgAmmo has some 9, 40 and 45 this morning.  I bought some 40 and 45.  Just waiting for that .308 to come available.  They only have tracer rounds available.

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: hunter399 on January 03, 2021, 08:52:00 AM
SgAmmo has some 9, 40 and 45 this morning.  I bought some 40 and 45.  Just waiting for that .308 to come available.  They only have tracer rounds available.

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We get closer to deer season and you still haven't found any 308 rounds ,you let me know .
I will hook you up. :tup:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Russ McDonald on January 03, 2021, 09:11:28 AM
SgAmmo has some 9, 40 and 45 this morning.  I bought some 40 and 45.  Just waiting for that .308 to come available.  They only have tracer rounds available.

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We get closer to deer season and you still haven't found any 308 rounds ,you let me know .
I will hook you up. :tup:
Thanks but not looking for hunting rounds just plinking rounds or long range shooting.  I don't rifle hunt.  Much appreciated  though.

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Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: hunter399 on January 03, 2021, 09:50:25 AM
SgAmmo has some 9, 40 and 45 this morning.  I bought some 40 and 45.  Just waiting for that .308 to come available.  They only have tracer rounds available.

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We get closer to deer season and you still haven't found any 308 rounds ,you let me know .
I will hook you up. :tup:
Thanks but not looking for hunting rounds just plinking rounds or long range shooting.  I don't rifle hunt.  Much appreciated  though.

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Offer still stands for hunting purposes. :tup: :hello: :tup:

You'll have to wait for something to come in stock for plinking/long range shooting.

Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: highside74 on January 19, 2021, 10:13:08 AM
Federal way Sportsmans has

9mm
10mm
40 ca
25.06
30.06
300 win mag
300wsm

Also putting out Barness bullets of varies calibers and series

1/19/21 @ 10:10 a.m.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: NWShooter on January 20, 2021, 08:39:58 PM
People freaking out over what they should already have had. Slow learners always always handicap their selves and others.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: fowl smacker on January 20, 2021, 08:58:50 PM
People freaking out over what they should already have had. Slow learners always always handicap their selves and others.
There are 7 million NEW gun owners since last year.  I'm willing to bet most of them didn't know.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: NWShooter on January 20, 2021, 09:23:09 PM
People freaking out over what they should already have had. Slow learners always always handicap their selves and others.
There are 7 million NEW gun owners since last year.  I'm willing to bet most of them didn't know.

They don’t know. Their new gun owners. Fairly close to “Slow learners” or worse.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 21, 2021, 05:06:55 AM
They know by now that ammo is hard to come by and when its there its premium price
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: mountainman on January 22, 2021, 09:09:13 AM
It will slowly begin to ramp up.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: jrebel on January 22, 2021, 09:14:33 AM
Components are becoming more available.  Just ordered 2K bullets that were in stock and have seen brass around.  Give it 6 months and we will be back to full(er) shelves and the price gouging will be gone. 
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Miles on January 22, 2021, 05:12:28 PM
Just picked up two boxes of blazer 9mm for $15 each. There were probably 20 boxes left on the shelf for the next folks that needed some.

Also picked up 2 bricks of small pistol primers for $23 each.

Right place at the right time these days.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: NWShooter on January 22, 2021, 06:20:37 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: jrebel on January 22, 2021, 06:42:45 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.

It's the same agenda that Obama and Clinton had and clearly ammo did not go away.  Will they fight to tax it, take away "Assault Rifles", high capacity mags, etc., etc. etc.....YES.  But will ammo and guns go away.....NO.  I'm not for giving up any of my 2A rights but I am not in fear of ammo never coming back.  Seven million new gun owners....they all bought ammo for their new guns.  This is the majority of the reason ammo is in shortage.  Then of course you have people who are panicked and buying ammo by the truck load, but I believe those are fewer than not.  Manufacturing can't keep up with demand.  When demand slows, which it always does, ammo will show up on the shelves again.   
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Platensek-po on January 22, 2021, 06:46:25 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.

It's the same agenda that Obama and Clinton had and clearly ammo did not go away.  Will they fight to tax it, take away "Assault Rifles", high capacity mags, etc., etc. etc.....YES.  But will ammo and guns go away.....NO.  I'm not for giving up any of my 2A rights but I am not in fear of ammo never coming back.  Seven million new gun owners....they all bought ammo for their new guns.  This is the majority of the reason ammo is in shortage.  Then of course you have people who are panicked and buying ammo by the truck load, but I believe those are fewer than not.  Manufacturing can't keep up with demand.  When demand slows, which it always does, ammo will show up on the shelves again.
:yeah: also the same people who manufacture the guns for civilians do so for the military and police as well. Amazing to me people want to take away civilians guns while having the largest and most expensive military and police force.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: full choke on January 22, 2021, 06:52:35 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.

It's the same agenda that Obama and Clinton had and clearly ammo did not go away.  Will they fight to tax it, take away "Assault Rifles", high capacity mags, etc., etc. etc.....YES.  But will ammo and guns go away.....NO.  I'm not for giving up any of my 2A rights but I am not in fear of ammo never coming back.  Seven million new gun owners....they all bought ammo for their new guns.  This is the majority of the reason ammo is in shortage.  Then of course you have people who are panicked and buying ammo by the truck load, but I believe those are fewer than not.  Manufacturing can't keep up with demand.  When demand slows, which it always does, ammo will show up on the shelves again.

I disagree to an extent. Will ammo manufacturers catch up to demand?- sure. But the left learns from past defeats. Look at California. Laws are enacted to make background checks for ammunition. Limits on the amounts you can buy will be imposed. The online sale can be attacked.

They don't have to go after guns, and can avoid 2nd amendment fights. There is no constitutional protections against the ammunition. That is where they will attack. And you can bet ol' Bobby Sue here in Washington will exhaust every avenue he can to prevent legal law abiding individuals from exercising their right to enjoy firearms.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Igor on January 22, 2021, 07:11:03 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.

It's the same agenda that Obama and Clinton had and clearly ammo did not go away.  Will they fight to tax it, take away "Assault Rifles", high capacity mags, etc., etc. etc.....YES.  But will ammo and guns go away.....NO.  I'm not for giving up any of my 2A rights but I am not in fear of ammo never coming back.  Seven million new gun owners....they all bought ammo for their new guns.  This is the majority of the reason ammo is in shortage.  Then of course you have people who are panicked and buying ammo by the truck load, but I believe those are fewer than not.  Manufacturing can't keep up with demand.  When demand slows, which it always does, ammo will show up on the shelves again.

You need to listen to full choke.......
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: jrebel on January 22, 2021, 07:33:31 PM
I think the supreme court would say that 2A rights also protect ammo by default.  If ammo was the solution to their banning firearms, it would be gone by now.  It would be like saying, take away "all firing pins" and make all firearms useless....if it was that easy, we wouldn't have guns.  The United States of America is not giving up our guns or ammo, 7 million first time gun owners proves that.     

Will they try....YES....will they win....some times.  Will their always be opposition....YES and at the end of the day, ammo will come back to the shelves as it has the last 3 times this happened. 

Anyone want to bet a brick of primers that I'm wrong??   :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: SGTDuffman on January 22, 2021, 07:42:02 PM
You guys might want to read up. Joe wants to ban the online sales of ammo. His to do list reads like the fever dream of the most ardent anti 2A zealots you’ve ever heard of.

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: Igor on January 22, 2021, 07:55:11 PM
I think the supreme court would say that 2A rights also protect ammo by default.  If ammo was the solution to their banning firearms, it would be gone by now.  It would be like saying, take away "all firing pins" and make all firearms useless....if it was that easy, we wouldn't have guns.  The United States of America is not giving up our guns or ammo, 7 million first time gun owners proves that.     

Will they try....YES....will they win....some times.  Will their always be opposition....YES and at the end of the day, ammo will come back to the shelves as it has the last 3 times this happened. 

Anyone want to bet a brick of primers that I'm wrong??   :dunno: :dunno:

Let me enlighten you just a little:

New gun controls taking effect July 1, 2019, will require citizens of California to pass a background check every time they buy a box of ammunition.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/30/california-ammunition-background-checks-take-effect-july-1/

Effective July 1, 2019, persons seeking to purchase or transfer ammunition will have to undergo an eligibility check, and be approved by the Department, prior to the sale or transfer, except as otherwise specified.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/apap

Court Reinstates California Ammunition Purchase Law

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-04-25/court-reinstates-california-ammunition-purchase-law

For some reason you think this can't happen in Washington ??

Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: jrebel on January 22, 2021, 08:06:02 PM
I think the supreme court would say that 2A rights also protect ammo by default.  If ammo was the solution to their banning firearms, it would be gone by now.  It would be like saying, take away "all firing pins" and make all firearms useless....if it was that easy, we wouldn't have guns.  The United States of America is not giving up our guns or ammo, 7 million first time gun owners proves that.     

Will they try....YES....will they win....some times.  Will their always be opposition....YES and at the end of the day, ammo will come back to the shelves as it has the last 3 times this happened. 

Anyone want to bet a brick of primers that I'm wrong??   :dunno: :dunno:

Let me enlighten you just a little:

New gun controls taking effect July 1, 2019, will require citizens of California to pass a background check every time they buy a box of ammunition.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/30/california-ammunition-background-checks-take-effect-july-1/

Effective July 1, 2019, persons seeking to purchase or transfer ammunition will have to undergo an eligibility check, and be approved by the Department, prior to the sale or transfer, except as otherwise specified.

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/apap

Court Reinstates California Ammunition Purchase Law

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-04-25/court-reinstates-california-ammunition-purchase-law

For some reason you think this can't happen in Washington ??

Trust me...I follow all the same things you posted and more.  I am not debating they will not continue to fight and pass unconstitutional laws.  This does not change the fact that ammo "WILL" show back up on the shelves.  You will be able to buy ammo again.  You may have to go through a background check (I think this is ridiculous) but you will be able to purchase it. 

Again....I am not blind to the fact that the fight continues as it pertains to destroying our constitutional rights.  I just believe that this ammo shortage is a direct correlation to a couple things (that we have seen before) 1.  New firearm owners  2.  Election year  3.  The pandemic (riots, defund police, etc)   

It will be back.  If I'm wrong, I will eat crow....but to panic like people are doing is silly.   
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: mountainman on January 22, 2021, 09:23:02 PM
Obviously people don’t realize the agenda of the new administration. Buckle up.

It's the same agenda that Obama and Clinton had and clearly ammo did not go away.  Will they fight to tax it, take away "Assault Rifles", high capacity mags, etc., etc. etc.....YES.  But will ammo and guns go away.....NO.  I'm not for giving up any of my 2A rights but I am not in fear of ammo never coming back.  Seven million new gun owners....they all bought ammo for their new guns.  This is the majority of the reason ammo is in shortage.  Then of course you have people who are panicked and buying ammo by the truck load, but I believe those are fewer than not.  Manufacturing can't keep up with demand.  When demand slows, which it always does, ammo will show up on the shelves again.   
And added to those reasons, some don't realize the fact that firearm and ammunition manufacturers are also, due to covid restrictions, running at less then capacity. As covid goes away, so will a large part of the shortages.
Title: Re: 9mm being hoarded?
Post by: SGTDuffman on January 24, 2021, 11:50:20 AM
As long as price gougers can continue making a killing gouging people, they will continue to buy all available stock and gouge. Once it is no longer profitable for people to buy out all available stock and sell it at insane markups, it’ll stop.

But you may never be able to buy cheap ammo again though. It depends how quickly this administration can do the things they want. All online sales of ammo will be banned. You’re also looking at background checks and purchase limits. They’ve been trying to ban lead ammunition for ages. Might try that again now too. You’ll be priced out of using firearms. The trends in this state are to limit your ability to discharge firearms on public land as well. They designate something a hiking zone or the like and close it to shooting.
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