Post by: RileyH on November 16, 2020, 01:32:43 PM
29-1/2" wide, gross ~190". Interestingly enough, he carries 5" of mass through most H measurements, and his ears were just shy of 27" tip-to-tip. Never seen a deer with a noggin as big as this guys, his head reminded me of a literal Mule!
Maybe next year I'll finally get the book buck I've been chasing...
(https://i.imgur.com/717Ph0j.jpg)
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 16, 2020, 01:36:23 PM
I fell sorry for ya, I mean 178 gross....
Kidding. Great buck , thanks for re posting under your terms.
Post by: emac on November 16, 2020, 01:37:49 PM
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Post by: TriggerMike on November 16, 2020, 01:43:19 PM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on November 16, 2020, 01:44:08 PM
Post by: RileyH on November 16, 2020, 01:45:08 PM
You mean 190" gross and 178" net. And to that I say, nets are for fishing! :chuckle: Epic buck congrats :tup:
Doh -- fixed!
Post by: OutHouse on November 16, 2020, 01:55:32 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 16, 2020, 01:57:49 PM
Post by: pygmy1985 on November 16, 2020, 01:58:16 PM
Post by: X-Force on November 16, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 16, 2020, 02:00:36 PM
Post by: nwmein199 on November 16, 2020, 02:08:30 PM
Post by: RileyH on November 16, 2020, 02:11:53 PM
Congrats! I'd love to see the rest of his measurements. A 190 with no g1's is huge.I'll see if I can get them from the relative currently in possession and scan them in.
Taxidermist (B&C scorer) said with a matching right side and G1's he'd be all over 200".
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 16, 2020, 02:12:38 PM
Post by: elkboy on November 16, 2020, 02:23:34 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 16, 2020, 02:28:45 PM
Post by: bearhunter99 on November 16, 2020, 02:42:40 PM
Post by: Mfowl on November 16, 2020, 02:52:28 PM
Post by: jstone on November 16, 2020, 03:06:47 PM
Great job all around
Post by: hunt6226 on November 16, 2020, 03:12:36 PM
Post by: Buckhunter24 on November 16, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 16, 2020, 04:16:38 PM
The funniest was 13" - has lost the outer half of both ears, likely to frostbite. Shot by a VERY selective hunter I visited with over at least 12 years, he had the grace to laugh at himself - he jumped the buck out of his bed just feet away, saw he was at LEAST 4" past his ears on both sides and took a snap shot - killed A YOUNG BUCK that was all of 21" outside.
Post by: Muleyslyr on November 16, 2020, 05:36:16 PM
Post by: The Fin on November 16, 2020, 05:39:53 PM
Post by: Gonehuntin01 on November 16, 2020, 07:36:31 PM
Post by: SeatoSummit88 on November 16, 2020, 08:34:32 PM
Post by: CaNINE on November 16, 2020, 08:38:28 PM
Post by: 270Flat on November 16, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
Amazing deer!
Post by: Sutherland on November 16, 2020, 09:14:04 PM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 17, 2020, 05:35:20 AM
Post by: Watimberghost on November 17, 2020, 05:53:31 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 17, 2020, 06:42:20 AM
Post by: Dan-o on November 17, 2020, 07:10:48 AM
Love the mass on that monster.
Post by: Rob on November 17, 2020, 07:34:48 AM
very nice buck!
Post by: OutHouse on November 17, 2020, 09:00:41 AM
Post by: HikerHunter on November 17, 2020, 09:13:50 AM
Post by: Parkern on November 17, 2020, 09:30:55 PM
Very nice buck. I scoffed at the score when I first saw it and still question the numbers a bit, but its a wonderful buck and nothing should take away from that. :tup: Congratulations.Not sure how there is over 10' of deductions and also not sure how it hits 190 gross with those front and no eye guards :dunno: Post up the score sheet...
Post by: Limhangerslayer on November 17, 2020, 10:16:40 PM
Very nice buck. I scoffed at the score when I first saw it and still question the numbers a bit, but its a wonderful buck and nothing should take away from that. :tup: Congratulations.the biggest problem is people are worried about score, I’m in the same boat sometimes. Fronts like that and no eye-guards, that’s not a 190 gross buck by looking at it in the pics. But who cares, it’sa big mature bruiser of a buck and you should be happy with it!
Post by: cbond3318 on November 18, 2020, 05:18:12 AM
Great buck! Congrats!
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 18, 2020, 06:25:25 AM
Post by: 2MANY on November 18, 2020, 09:50:11 AM
Post by: RileyH on November 18, 2020, 07:39:32 PM
Tip-to-Tip: 21
Greatest Spread: 29-4/8
Inside Spread of Main Beams: 24-4/8
Length of Main Beam: R 24-6/8 | L 23-4/8
G-2: R 20 | L: 19-2/8
G-3: R 13 | L: 12-6/8
G-4: R 6 | L: 6-4/8
H-1: R 5-7/8 | L 6
H-2: R 5-3/8 | L 5
H-3: R 4-6/8 | L 5-1/8
H-4: R 4-2/8 | L 4-3/8
Post by: X-Force on November 18, 2020, 07:48:17 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 18, 2020, 08:09:34 PM
Post by: Dan-o on November 18, 2020, 08:21:10 PM
Congratulations.
Post by: Quackwhacker on November 18, 2020, 08:28:57 PM
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Post by: Buckjunkie on November 18, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/A5kryiN.jpg)You did something cracking the 190 mark in Wa. Congratulation!! Hell of a buck!
(https://i.imgur.com/93YQWhC.jpg)
Tip-to-Tip: 21
Greatest Spread: 29-4/8
Inside Spread of Main Beams: 24-4/8
Length of Main Beam: R 24-6/8 | L 23-4/8
G-2: R 20 | L: 19-2/8
G-3: R 13 | L: 12-6/8
G-4: R 6 | L: 6-4/8
H-1: R 5-7/8 | L 6
H-2: R 5-3/8 | L 5
H-3: R 4-6/8 | L 5-1/8
H-4: R 4-2/8 | L 4-3/8
Post by: Igottanewknee on November 19, 2020, 10:04:15 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 19, 2020, 11:51:39 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 19, 2020, 12:09:38 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 19, 2020, 12:17:30 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 19, 2020, 12:28:45 PM
Post by: RB on November 19, 2020, 12:29:53 PM
Post by: 2MANY on November 19, 2020, 12:47:56 PM
Such a short pack out too.
Congrats on your success.
Post by: b23 on November 19, 2020, 01:05:38 PM
IMO scoring systems are over rated. The score really doesn't matter, that is a fantastic buck regardless of score, congratulations, well done, and thanks for sharing with everyone on the forum! :tup: :tup:
I and probably most would largely agree with everything you said, BUT, once you open Pandora's box and claim it to score "X" amount you open the door to be questioned on what you claim. It certainly doesn't change the fact it's an awesome buck and one anyone would be VERY proud of.
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 19, 2020, 01:08:23 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 19, 2020, 01:14:13 PM
Post by: idaho guy on November 19, 2020, 01:32:40 PM
IMO scoring systems are over rated. The score really doesn't matter, that is a fantastic buck regardless of score, congratulations, well done, and thanks for sharing with everyone on the forum! :tup: :tup:
:yeah: its awesome and looks like it scored 190 (regardless of the hw experts) with measurements posted? Score is overrated and rewards balance and perfection over size anyways. I don't even want to know how to score a buck but I know big and that is big :tup: thanks for posting!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 19, 2020, 01:44:39 PM
Not everyone is offended by talking score. Ive pm'd with rhiley about this deer and he's far from being squeamish about talking numbers. For the life of me ill never understand why people need to project their own beliefs into others threads. If you don't like the scoring system then that's fine but why is it that every single time there's a "whats it score" thread, all the anti score folks have to come out of the wood work to let everyone know they don't care about score :dunno:
Post by: idaho guy on November 19, 2020, 01:53:18 PM
Post by: TriggerMike on November 19, 2020, 01:56:45 PM
Post by: 2MANY on November 19, 2020, 01:58:22 PM
Considering a march on the capital.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 19, 2020, 01:59:13 PM
I am not offended by anybody talking score or about anything else. I read your post and thought it was an fyi. Its all good I just don't personally really care about score but have had people with more knowledge than me score 2 bucks that were our biggest. I shouldn't have even commented about the score just seemed like some were getting carried away with was it actually exactly 190 or not. Its just a great buck and I am glad he posted it.:tup: big is big
And to be clear, my comment was a general statement because it happens over and over anytime score is even mentioned.
Post by: carlyoungs on November 19, 2020, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: carlyoungs on November 19, 2020, 02:02:39 PM
Post by: bearpaw on November 19, 2020, 02:10:35 PM
Nobody is saying it isn't a huge buck. He pointed out a boone and Crockett score and posted the measurements that boone and Crockett uses to determine a score. If you're gonna use boone and Crockett formula then it needs to be used correctly. My comment was a simple fyi.
Not everyone is offended by talking score. Ive pm'd with rhiley about this deer and he's far from being squeamish about talking numbers. For the life of me ill never understand why people need to project their own beliefs into others threads. If you don't like the scoring system then that's fine but why is it that every single time there's a "whats it score" thread, all the anti score folks have to come out of the wood work to let everyone know they don't care about score :dunno:
First you aren't the only person who questioned the score, I wasn't singling you out, second I'm not anti score at all, but it bothers me when people who don't have the rack in their hands call out someone about the score of an animal, (this was meant as a generalized comment, not directled at you alone), especially when photos can make any animal look smaller or larger depending how they were taken. I'm glad to hear the OP doesn't mind talking numbers, and that you were only questioning his formula, but I still hope other members don't get the feeling they might be called out by numerous other members if they post their photos! This has been a concern for some time and one reason some members actually don't post their photos.
Post by: HillHound on November 19, 2020, 02:27:53 PM
Post by: npaull on November 19, 2020, 02:31:57 PM
you don't need it to tell a fat one when you see it.
Post by: RileyH on November 19, 2020, 02:45:02 PM
I'm offended by the fact that the OP used a black square to cover his face.
Considering a march on the capital.
LOL that's because it was not me holding him in that picture and I respect folks wishes to remain anonymous!
I appreciate everyones comments, question(s/ing), etc. and take no offense to anything. I too would be skeptical in this era of wide-angled instagram buck pics, and I'd love to put the buck in all of your guys hands to see for yourselves if I could! Bearpaw is absolutely right though, these days where it's easy to track people down and harass them definitely came into effect and dissuaded me from posting at first.
If it was totaled wrong I'd love to hear what more seasoned guys (like Karl) have to say about it. We had a great conversation a couple days ago and he knows how catastrophically awful this hunt was until this deer finally hit the ground. It doesn't bother me at all if people question it and it needs to be scored and scored again. As a passionate (addicted) young hunter, I'd love to know if I was off base so I can ultimately get better at field judging and learn more about deer.
Fortunately dead ones are a lot easier to score than live ones!
Post by: Seabass on November 19, 2020, 02:48:38 PM
I'm offended by the fact that the OP used a black square to cover his face.
Considering a march on the capital.
LOL that's because it was not me holding him in that picture and I respect folks wishes to remain anonymous!
I appreciate everyones comments, question(s/ing), etc. and take no offense to anything. I too would be skeptical in this era of wide-angled instagram buck pics, and I'd love to put the buck in all of your guys hands to see for yourselves if I could! Bearpaw is absolutely right though, these days where it's easy to track people down and harass them definitely came into effect and dissuaded me from posting at first.
If it was totaled wrong I'd love to hear what more seasoned guys (like Karl) have to say about it. We had a great conversation a couple days ago and he knows how catastrophically awful this hunt was until this deer finally hit the ground. It doesn't bother me at all if people question it and it needs to be scored and scored again. As a passionate (addicted) young hunter, I'd love to know if I was off base so I can ultimately get better at field judging and learn more about deer.
Fortunately dead ones are a lot easier to score than live ones!
You have a great perspective!
Post by: MR5x5 on November 19, 2020, 03:37:06 PM
It scores a 10 out of 10 in the official TriggerMike trophy book :tup:
This!!!
Nice work.
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 19, 2020, 03:53:38 PM
Scoring live is a little tricky.
It not only takes skill to get close enough, but to hold on with one hand while trying to pull measurements with the other is way tough. I've been kicked off a number of times.
Post by: Igor on November 19, 2020, 04:03:11 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on November 20, 2020, 09:38:38 PM