Post by: zwickeyman on November 21, 2020, 10:59:35 AM
Thanks in advance
Post by: elkaholic123 on November 21, 2020, 11:05:23 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 21, 2020, 11:12:49 AM
Post by: jrebel on November 21, 2020, 11:13:24 AM
Can't speak to the accubond long range but can speak highly of the accubond. I stretch my creedmoor to 800 yards shooting the accubond and it stupid accurate. I would not hesitate to whack deer sized game to 600 yards. If you like the partitions you will love the accubond (standard) as they are devastating on game and perform very well. I have killed two bear (literally dropped dead in their tracks) and multiple deer with this rifle. It preforms as expected. At the range, it is a very accurate bullet and will shoot half MOA or better if I do my part. I am shooting them out of a Savage Stealth.
Post by: Oh Mah on November 21, 2020, 11:14:54 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 21, 2020, 11:19:02 AM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 21, 2020, 11:26:45 AM
Post by: kselkhunter on November 21, 2020, 11:28:20 AM
Thanks for the input guys. I'm surprised to hear that about the ELDX. I know gel isnt a great test on hunting performance but sure thought the ELDX looked better the Accubond LR. I know the LR isnt as tough as the standard Accubond
I've had zero issues with the Accubond LR. Performed well on every animal I've used it on.
Post by: b23 on November 21, 2020, 11:32:28 AM
https://www.longrangeonly.com/forum/threads/berger-6-5-156-gr-terminal-performance-thread.6597/
Post by: zwickeyman on November 21, 2020, 11:34:00 AM
The bear was 215 yards,1 deer was at 800 yards and the other was at 475 yards.All came apart and a piece about the size of a dime very thin was all that was left on all 3
Even at 800 yards WOW
Post by: zwickeyman on November 21, 2020, 11:35:34 AM
kselkhunterThanks for the input guys. I'm surprised to hear that about the ELDX. I know gel isnt a great test on hunting performance but sure thought the ELDX looked better the Accubond LR. I know the LR isnt as tough as the standard Accubond
I've had zero issues with the Accubond LR. Performed well on every animal I've used it on.
What velocities you pushing them? and in 26 cal?
Post by: Buckjunkie on November 21, 2020, 11:52:04 AM
Talked to a buddy that shoots lots of animals and he said the ELDX are crap. They either explode on the on side or don’t expand and it’s like shooting an arrow with a field tip.
I also have a few experiences with the Accubond LR. They do better than the other long range bullets, but I prefer the performance of the partitions, standard accubonds and Barnes LRX bullets.
Post by: highside74 on November 21, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 21, 2020, 12:36:21 PM
Post by: jrebel on November 21, 2020, 12:45:16 PM
Wow surprised all the negative reviews on the eldx, have hit many animals at high and low velocity and have performed flawlessly(elk, bear, muleys). Full pass through, with good expansion never needed a second round. Very similar to an accubond if not better.
This is what is very interesting about this bullet. Some have great performance and others have piss poor performance. I hit a bear in the shoulder broadside with a 212 ELD-X this year and it blew up on the onside shoulder. Bear is still roaming the hills. All I had to show for it was a fist full of fur and a meek blood trail for 100 yards. I watched impact and thought, there is no way this bear is still standing.....well it walked off like I never shot it.
Bull moose last year...first shot was a complete pass through at 300 yards, worked great. Next shot was a neck shot to make sure it didn't go into the thick brush.....bullet exploded and we only found fragments. Super inconsistent. Fist bull moose a couple years, two shots in the boiler maker.....non exited. It was a 40 yard shot and all we found were fragments....total disintegration. The head shot at 40 yards was pretty impressive though. :chuckle:
Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 21, 2020, 02:52:23 PM
Post by: Stein on November 21, 2020, 02:53:18 PM
It also could be placement, bone vs muscle.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 21, 2020, 04:07:10 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 21, 2020, 04:48:14 PM
Congratulations on the new rifle. I don't have a dog in this fight. I just admire the PRC chamberings and want to tag along.
Thanks. XBOLT Hells Canyon Speed. Hope it shoots as well as my 300 WM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 21, 2020, 04:50:53 PM
Post by: Oh Mah on November 21, 2020, 05:23:51 PM
Could be velocity related, it would be interesting to see what fps at the animal resulted in good or bad results.most likely is speed related but that what their biggest selling point was on the eldx.any velocity up too :dunno: at any range.
It also could be placement, bone vs muscle.
Post by: jrebel on November 21, 2020, 05:59:34 PM
Could be velocity related, it would be interesting to see what fps at the animal resulted in good or bad results.most likely is speed related but that what their biggest selling point was on the eldx.any velocity up too :dunno: at any range.
It also could be placement, bone vs muscle.
It is more than likely a bone or density issue. 300 yard shot on a moose with only hitting one offside rib and it was a clean pass through. The neck shot on the same moose fragmented in the neck of the moose.
The bear I did not recover was a high shoulder shot at 500 yards. I watched impact and it hit right where it needed. I don't think the bullet made it through the bone, I think it grenaded causing onside hair to blow off it and bled very little for about 100 yards before it went dry. I watched the bear walk off without a limp (after the initial bolt and run for 15 yards).
The moose at 40 yards may be speed related. They did hit onside rib. That bullet is pushing 2880 fps out of my 300 win mag and didn't loose much velocity in the 40 yards. Still well within the speeds if should perform in my opinion.
Post by: huntandjeep on November 21, 2020, 06:01:45 PM
6.5 Berger Elite Hunter 140 grain. :tup: .606 BC.:yeah: I have never had an animal walk away after being hit with a Berger from my 6.5x284 .
Post by: Oh Mah on November 21, 2020, 06:10:09 PM
Not arguing as it really does not msatter to mre but a bullet should not have a clean pass through at 300 yards on a moose after hitting 1 rib.........just saying.Could be velocity related, it would be interesting to see what fps at the animal resulted in good or bad results.most likely is speed related but that what their biggest selling point was on the eldx.any velocity up too :dunno: at any range.
It also could be placement, bone vs muscle.
It is more than likely a bone or density issue. 300 yard shot on a moose with only hitting one offside rib and it was a clean pass through. The neck shot on the same moose fragmented in the neck of the moose.
The bear I did not recover was a high shoulder shot at 500 yards. I watched impact and it hit right where it needed. I don't think the bullet made it through the bone, I think it grenaded causing onside hair to blow off it and bled very little for about 100 yards before it went dry. I watched the bear walk off without a limp (after the initial bolt and run for 15 yards).
The moose at 40 yards may be speed related. They did hit onside rib. That bullet is pushing 2880 fps out of my 300 win mag and didn't loose much velocity in the 40 yards. Still well within the speeds if should perform in my opinion.
Post by: jrebel on November 21, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
Not arguing as it really does not msatter to mre but a bullet should not have a clean pass through at 300 yards on a moose after hitting 1 rib.........just saying.Could be velocity related, it would be interesting to see what fps at the animal resulted in good or bad results.most likely is speed related but that what their biggest selling point was on the eldx.any velocity up too :dunno: at any range.
It also could be placement, bone vs muscle.
It is more than likely a bone or density issue. 300 yard shot on a moose with only hitting one offside rib and it was a clean pass through. The neck shot on the same moose fragmented in the neck of the moose.
The bear I did not recover was a high shoulder shot at 500 yards. I watched impact and it hit right where it needed. I don't think the bullet made it through the bone, I think it grenaded causing onside hair to blow off it and bled very little for about 100 yards before it went dry. I watched the bear walk off without a limp (after the initial bolt and run for 15 yards).
The moose at 40 yards may be speed related. They did hit onside rib. That bullet is pushing 2880 fps out of my 300 win mag and didn't loose much velocity in the 40 yards. Still well within the speeds if should perform in my opinion.
All I can do is report my experience......the rest is up to the person making he decision to short or not shoot that bullet. I used the same rifle on a 175 lb bear a couple years prior. 200 yard shot steep up hill. Hit low on one let and came out the to of the offside shoulder. Clean pass through. It took another shot to the back of the dome to kill that bear. These bullets are not that impressive.
The guys that like the hornady's generally like the ELD-M and say they perform better on game than the ELD-X's. Lots of reviews out there.
I'm sticking to the accubonds. I am gonna try some Hammers this year in my 300 wsm just for craps and giggles. They get great reviews for a solid copper bullet.
Post by: CaNINE on November 22, 2020, 07:58:08 AM
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Post by: Wolfdog2314 on November 22, 2020, 09:16:47 AM
Post by: highside74 on November 22, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 22, 2020, 10:28:12 AM
I was only able to find 2 bullets so I loaded some up for beak in and ladder tests. 140 gr Partition and 142 gr Accubond LR. I'll see how they shoot but will also add an all copper to the mix. Im starting all off with RL26 because its what I use in my 300 and Ive heard good reports in the PRC
Thanks again and keep the input coming
Post by: JBar on November 22, 2020, 12:55:13 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 22, 2020, 01:50:07 PM
I just picked up a 6.5 PRC and will be reloading for it. Looking for first hand hunting experience with a hunting bullet in this caliber. I'm a big Partition fan but might raise the BC to the ELDX or Accubond long range
Thanks in advance
Partitions have never failed me, not even once. “If it ain’t broke...” :twocents:
Post by: yorketransport on November 23, 2020, 09:43:36 PM
I've only had one bullet out of the 18 different styles I"ve used from Hammer that I couldn't get to shoot under .5 MOA in 20 shots or less. That particular bullet was at the very edge of stability and I knew it was going to be kind of iffy though.
Post by: Jolten on November 23, 2020, 10:47:00 PM
Post by: Matth on November 24, 2020, 07:46:35 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 24, 2020, 08:11:02 AM
The 140 grain AB shoots very well out of my 26
Thanks again for all the input, suggestions
I would love to try some 140gr Accubonds but I cant find any :bash:
Post by: Houndhunter on November 24, 2020, 12:13:43 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 29, 2020, 08:42:36 AM
I have the barrel broken in and some 140 gr. Partitions and some 142gr. Accubond LR loaded up with some RL26. Going to shoot for groups then load the Accubonds up when they get here and shoot those.
Hopefully I'll get one of those dialed :IBCOOL:
Post by: Caseknife on November 29, 2020, 08:50:20 AM
Post by: zwickeyman on November 29, 2020, 09:35:30 AM
I settled on RL-25 behind the 127LRX in my 6.5PRC, smoked a cow elk in Idaho in early October.
What velocity were you pushing those?
Post by: gadwall on December 02, 2020, 09:45:31 PM
Post by: zwickeyman on December 03, 2020, 05:22:44 AM
Post by: Caseknife on December 03, 2020, 07:11:58 AM
Right at 3200fps.I settled on RL-25 behind the 127LRX in my 6.5PRC, smoked a cow elk in Idaho in early October.
What velocity were you pushing those?
Post by: zwickeyman on December 03, 2020, 07:17:45 PM
Right at 3200fps.I settled on RL-25 behind the 127LRX in my 6.5PRC, smoked a cow elk in Idaho in early October.
What velocity were you pushing those?
Those are smokiing :tup:
Post by: zwickeyman on December 03, 2020, 08:03:09 PM