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Title: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 01:10:04 PM


weird!
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Calvin Rayborn on December 02, 2020, 01:13:31 PM
On gun broker and arms list for $.25 a pop
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 01:19:25 PM
On gun broker and arms list for $.25 a pop
and in the classifieds....
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Norman89 on December 02, 2020, 01:20:47 PM
On gun broker and arms list for $.25 a pop
and in the classifieds....

At twice the normal price for half the amount
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
On gun broker and arms list for $.25 a pop
and in the classifieds....

At twice the normal price for half the amount
you saw that too did ya?
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 02, 2020, 01:57:54 PM
Buy a couple 1000 primer bricks when you can.  Live and learn they are cheap when available.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 02:15:37 PM
I’ve got some just think the price gauging going on is ridiculous
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 02, 2020, 02:20:44 PM
Yea I paid $200 for a brick couple years ago but was glad to get it.    When they finally came available bought 3 bricks for about $40 each. 

Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: h20hunter on December 02, 2020, 02:27:29 PM
Interesting video.  Regarding comments about pricing.  Continuing to post in manner clearly directed at a classified ad here will get the thread removed just like your comnents in the ad itself.  People can, and will ask whatever they are looking to get and if folks buy it that is their choice.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 03:05:50 PM
Interesting video.  Regarding comments about pricing.  Continuing to post in manner clearly directed at a classified ad here will get the thread removed just like your comnents in the ad itself.  People can, and will ask whatever they are looking to get and if folks buy it that is their choice.
*comment, offering a trade. Toilet paper is in high demand
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Special T on December 02, 2020, 04:22:18 PM
I hope folks that didn't learn the lesson 4 years ago  have the opportunity to learn from this one.

I don't even have a reloader, but when prices were stupid cheap I bought a bunch of primers for my firearm calibers when prices were great. Why? I was darn near at the point of buying a sling shot instead of taking my kids shooting.

When its cheap, Buy Deep and store it...
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: wadu1 on December 02, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
I always have one brick of small and large rifle/pistol primers. Shotgun 209's have been a hit or miss, picked up another brick last week at normal prices (box store). I go thru a bunch of 209's every year about 2 or 3 bricks.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: brew on December 02, 2020, 05:36:15 PM
what would be the "shelf life" on primers if kept in a decent, dry  location ?  i know i've shot rounds from WWII and those are obviously 80 years old
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: wadu1 on December 02, 2020, 05:39:54 PM
what would be the "shelf life" on primers if kept in a decent, dry  location ?  i know i've shot rounds from WWII and those are obviously 80 years old
I have shot some WWI ammo, about 50% still work.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Hilltop123 on December 02, 2020, 05:40:56 PM
what would be the "shelf life" on primers if kept in a decent, dry  location ?  i know i've shot rounds from WWII and those are obviously 80 years old
I have shot some WWI ammo, about 50% still work.
Primers if stored in ideal conditions, dry, cool and low humidity. Have a life span longer than you.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: wadu1 on December 02, 2020, 05:44:51 PM
what would be the "shelf life" on primers if kept in a decent, dry  location ?  i know i've shot rounds from WWII and those are obviously 80 years old
I have shot some WWI ammo, about 50% still work.
Primers if stored in ideal conditions, dry, cool and low humidity. Have a life span longer than you.
Very true, I've fired one or two Civil War musket caps just very dirty compared to modern.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 02, 2020, 05:50:05 PM
So I could be confident that the ones I have dated from 94 that are in my basement and have not been wet or major temp swings would still be good?

I have been thru several Primer shortages.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Hilltop123 on December 02, 2020, 05:52:39 PM
So I could be confident that the ones I have dated from 94 that are in my basement and have not been wet or major temp swings would still be good?

I have been thru several Primer shortages.

If stored as you describe, yes.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: brew on December 02, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
what would be the "shelf life" on primers if kept in a decent, dry  location ?  i know i've shot rounds from WWII and those are obviously 80 years old
I have shot some WWI ammo, about 50% still work.
not trying to jack the thread but i have a WWII Russian tokarov that my grandfather brought back (i actually have the government paperwork from him bringing it home) and a box of shells that still go bang.  bought some new rounds for it (7.62X25).  That thing is cool.  still have a bunch of the "original" rounds
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Stein on December 02, 2020, 06:24:35 PM
So I could be confident that the ones I have dated from 94 that are in my basement and have not been wet or major temp swings would still be good?

I have been thru several Primer shortages.

You could always load up 10 and fire the empty cases or just hit them with a hammer.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 06:36:50 PM
I guess I could sell some of my primers At the current going rate around here and buy the governors tag
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Norman89 on December 02, 2020, 07:33:59 PM
Interesting video.  Regarding comments about pricing.  Continuing to post in manner clearly directed at a classified ad here will get the thread removed just like your comnents in the ad itself.  People can, and will ask whatever they are looking to get and if folks buy it that is their choice.
*comment, offering a trade. Toilet paper is in high demand



This is 2020 you can't Assume you know which ad I was referring too "rheeeeeee!!!!"




I don't need primers so bad to pay gouging prices but to each there own I'm entitled to my personal opinion same as anyone else for what items they have and what it is worth. Not being rude being observant and honest
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: M_ray on December 02, 2020, 07:36:53 PM
On gun broker and arms list for $.25 a pop
and in the classifieds....

At twice the normal price for half the amount

More than twice the normal amount on several of them. This is why I refuse to use gunbroker... eBay won’t allow price gouging and will shut your account down but gun broker could care less. I get that it is up to the customer and if they are willing to pay it then it’s their choice but it screws the rest out of a normal deal.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Stein on December 02, 2020, 07:41:55 PM
In my view, it's like a 67 Vette, you want one, supply and demand will apply. 

For very limited things like gas and food during an emergency, sure, but for stuff that is a want, arms length transactions are the backbone of capitalism.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 07:51:59 PM
Interesting video.  Regarding comments about pricing.  Continuing to post in manner clearly directed at a classified ad here will get the thread removed just like your comnents in the ad itself.  People can, and will ask whatever they are looking to get and if folks buy it that is their choice.
*comment, offering a trade. Toilet paper is in high demand



This is 2020 you can't Assume you know which ad I was referring too "rheeeeeee!!!!"




I don't need primers so bad to pay gouging prices but to each there own I'm entitled to my personal opinion same as anyone else for what items they have and what it is worth. Not being rude being observant and honest
haha 2020 for sure.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: hunter399 on December 02, 2020, 09:10:09 PM
PRIMER APOCALYPSE 2020
with that said I'm not dying for them have enough going into next hunting season .But will need to find some at some time in 2021 for 2022 season but maybe not might have enough for both seasons but I won't pay highway-supply and demand slobs . I will buy factory ammo before that happens .
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 09:16:10 PM
I’ve got plenty for now, I’ve got my “notify me when in stock” options on several websites and all my family members know to grab what I need most.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Crunchy on December 02, 2020, 09:34:44 PM
PRIMER APOCALYPSE 2020
with that said I'm not dying for them have enough going into next hunting season .But will need to find some at some time in 2021 for 2022 season but maybe not might have enough for both seasons but I won't pay highway-supply and demand slobs . I will buy factory ammo before that happens .

I am in the same boat 500 CCI250s and 500 FED215s.  But powder is getting REAL low.  I will hold out until things get better before restocking.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: M_ray on December 02, 2020, 09:35:09 PM
In my view, it's like a 67 Vette, you want one, supply and demand will apply. 

For very limited things like gas and food during an emergency, sure, but for stuff that is a want, arms length transactions are the backbone of capitalism.

Lol primers are hardly a 67 vette ... they are more like the TP Of 2020 😂
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2020, 09:43:33 PM
I picked the wrong year to my a 7mm rem Mag, h1000 has been extinct all year lol
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: pd on December 02, 2020, 09:54:36 PM
In my view, it's like a 67 Vette, you want one, supply and demand will apply. 

For very limited things like gas and food during an emergency, sure, but for stuff that is a want, arms length transactions are the backbone of capitalism.

Lol primers are hardly a 67 vette ... they are more like the TP Of 2020 😂

Agreed!
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: huntnphool on December 02, 2020, 11:06:48 PM
 High prices and lack of availability will be the “new normal“ until the 2024 election at the earliest! :twocents:
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: JJB11B on December 03, 2020, 11:52:42 AM
I've got lots of used primers, is there a market for used ones?
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Norman89 on December 03, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
In a shtf situation there is. I was very surprised how much info there is on how to reload primers. Now is it perfect no is it as good as store bought no is it the most time consuming way in the world to build ammo probably but in the event of you need a bullet to make a kill and survive it's something to have in the mental safe
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: b23 on December 03, 2020, 12:16:12 PM
I've got lots of used primers, is there a market for used ones?

I think scrap metal price is around $150 a ton but can you imagine what it would cost to shoot a tons worth of primers.  :yike:
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Rob on December 03, 2020, 12:33:28 PM
I saw a guy selling (not here) 5.56 nato green tip for $2 a round...  at those prices I might consider selling some!

This is my 3rd reloading shortage rodeo. This too shall pass.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Rob on December 03, 2020, 12:43:35 PM
I went to Gun Broker and poked around.  looks like the auctions are up to about 200 per 1000 primers (SR and SP). 

Amazing...
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Rob on December 03, 2020, 12:44:47 PM
I've got lots of used primers, is there a market for used ones?

I have heard of people using them to fill shooting rest bags... 
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: birddogdad on December 03, 2020, 12:46:34 PM
you are terminated!
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: buckfvr on December 03, 2020, 12:55:20 PM
Not that I can remember where I read it because Its like so much other stuff you read, but I did recently read that gov antis are trying to tie the hands of the lending institutes in order to disrupt the fire arms and related industries.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: fly-by on December 03, 2020, 01:22:03 PM
I am always surprised to see complaints about free markets on a hunting site.  This is an interesting perspective on gouging as a deterrent to hoarding. https://www.johnlocke.org/update/how-price-gouging-laws-subsidize-hoarding/

Back in March Sportsmans warehouse was selling primers for 2 cents.  If you were smart enough to load up, you deserve to be rewarded.  You may have chosen to buy TP instead. That's what makes markets.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Stein on December 03, 2020, 01:48:26 PM
In my view, it's like a 67 Vette, you want one, supply and demand will apply. 

For very limited things like gas and food during an emergency, sure, but for stuff that is a want, arms length transactions are the backbone of capitalism.

Lol primers are hardly a 67 vette ... they are more like the TP Of 2020 😂

Agreed!

The point is that in some places we say the price is gouging, and in some places we gladly pay $100k for a car that sold for $7k new.

If there was a law saying you couldn't sell primers for more than MSRP, there would be exactly zero for sale right now. 

Some people find value in buying a box for $200.  They think it's worth $200 to buy one now vs. $35 later.

It's getting rather predictable, every time social media gets worked up, many gun owners think the world is really coming to an end this time and they need another 20,000 rounds of .22 to get through it.

Gouging is charging a bunch for something someone can't live without and you are the only place they can get it.  Primers don't fall into that category for sure.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 03, 2020, 02:05:38 PM
Meh.  I don't need any, and I'll remember who it was who was attempting to profit in lean times.  It's a small community, and I prefer people know I would have their backs, instead of looking to make a quick buck.

To each his own.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: buckfvr on December 03, 2020, 02:43:08 PM
Im not in need either but I also know most components are spoken for before they arrive.  Small community thing.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: hunter399 on December 10, 2020, 07:21:44 AM
Picked up a tip from co-worker and picked up a 1000 large rifle primers 35 bucks Federal primers.
Starting to think CCI doesn't make primers any more.
But ya even at the store I was at looked like I bought the last box unless they had more in the back.
But I do recommend talking with everybody in your network of peeps sometimes it works out.
Still pretty dry on powder supply
Even though I got a notification from midway yesterday
For blc-2 which is excellent powder for 308,223.
Never mind the blc-2 just looked it sold out already.


Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: SteelheadTed on December 10, 2020, 09:02:46 PM
I am always surprised to see complaints about free markets on a hunting site.  This is an interesting perspective on gouging as a deterrent to hoarding. https://www.johnlocke.org/update/how-price-gouging-laws-subsidize-hoarding/

Back in March Sportsmans warehouse was selling primers for 2 cents.  If you were smart enough to load up, you deserve to be rewarded.  You may have chosen to buy TP instead. That's what makes markets.

I've been making this argument over and over and people just don't seem to get it.  That's a good article that explains it nicely!
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: hunter399 on December 10, 2020, 09:07:14 PM
I am always surprised to see complaints about free markets on a hunting site.  This is an interesting perspective on gouging as a deterrent to hoarding. https://www.johnlocke.org/update/how-price-gouging-laws-subsidize-hoarding/

Back in March Sportsmans warehouse was selling primers for 2 cents.  If you were smart enough to load up, you deserve to be rewarded.  You may have chosen to buy TP instead. That's what makes markets.

I've been making this argument over and over and people just don't seem to get it.  That's a good article that explains it nicely!
Why would I worry about the market,bought 1k large rifle primer yesterday,bought 1k large rifle magnum primers today both where 35 bucks +tax.
One cci other where federal .
It's who you know and where you look.
Title: Re: where are all the primers?
Post by: SteelheadTed on December 10, 2020, 11:32:47 PM
I am always surprised to see complaints about free markets on a hunting site.  This is an interesting perspective on gouging as a deterrent to hoarding. https://www.johnlocke.org/update/how-price-gouging-laws-subsidize-hoarding/

Back in March Sportsmans warehouse was selling primers for 2 cents.  If you were smart enough to load up, you deserve to be rewarded.  You may have chosen to buy TP instead. That's what makes markets.

I've been making this argument over and over and people just don't seem to get it.  That's a good article that explains it nicely!
Why would I worry about the market,bought 1k large rifle primer yesterday,bought 1k large rifle magnum primers today both where 35 bucks +tax.
One cci other where federal .
It's who you know and where you look.

Great, glad you found some. 
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