Post by: actionshooter on December 03, 2020, 08:23:31 PM
Tell why I should or shouldn't and if so which callers are the ones to get?
The last caller I played with took cassette tapes... :chuckle:
Post by: highcountry_hunter on December 05, 2020, 04:09:33 PM
Post by: bsharp on December 05, 2020, 04:29:52 PM
Cheers,
Tim
Post by: trophyhunt on December 05, 2020, 04:45:52 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2020, 04:49:25 PM
I do know that no matter how good or how expensive the E caller is, it's still a challenge to call in predators.
I bought the best one possible, and it doesn't ensure that I'm successful, I still have to do my part.
but at least I know it's not a cheap caller that's keeping me from being successful.
maybe I should have bought a cheap one :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Okanagan on December 05, 2020, 05:44:20 PM
I have used several brands of e-caller, including a FP Inferno yesterday. Good sound but the remote was a nightmare to use. Poking the correct button 14 times to get it to respond, then once the next time, then a dozen... Changed batteries in the remote and still spent too much time fighting the remote instead of looking for a lion. I am spoiled, no doubt.
In all the years with Minaska I only played the wrong sound about four times total, and that unit obeyed each poke of a button. I liked the way sounds could be organized in banks. I had a bank for each kind of animal I called so I never had any lion sounds mixed in with coyote calls, etc. Apparently Minaska is not making e-callers anymore. Good calls, but apparently not good enough businessmen.
I had zeroed in last week on maybe buying a FP Fusion, but after using the Inferno remote, gonna check it out some more. I like the FP C24 but the external wire assembly looks vulnerable to brush, jamming in a pack, riding loose in the cab of a 4x4.
Am also looking at Iotec and Lucky Duck and still haven't eliminated the Mojo. I'm in touch with some manufacturers. I know the features I want. I want a call that will take sounds I record myself, that can add a large external speaker, that will run on an external SLA battery if internal batteries run low, and that will run a decoy controlled by the remote. The remote needs to work from as far away as possible. (Long range remote does not mean that I am taking long shots.)
All this research is making my head hurt. Someone pick out a call and buy it for me! :P
Post by: Okanagan on December 05, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
my recommendation would be the Sabre model. It has a 10watt paging speaker that cranks out volume with clarity. It plays our encrypted GCX sounds from ICOtec as well as MP3 or Wav audio files. The remote is easily navigated and has a range of 300 yards, two favorites banks that store 10 sounds each, a play, pause, stop, volume up/down, channel up/down (for sound selection) a menu to change settings to day/night display, display brightness, sequence delay and sleep mode timer. It also has a “Coax” button, that button changes to a users pre set sound that can be changed to immediately, for example, a lot of people set it as a pup distress for after a shot on a coyote, me personally I set it as a mouse vole to sucker them in closer to shorten up the drag after the shot!
You’ll find that our callers are excellent on battery life, I use the ICOtec C4 rechargeable pack in mine, I hunt a lot and get almost two months per charge.
Post by: JakeLand on December 05, 2020, 06:11:17 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2020, 06:22:08 PM
The price point on icotec is great.
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Post by: trophyhunt on December 05, 2020, 06:45:02 PM
Fox pro shockwave !$500 , that’s a big investment
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2020, 06:51:08 PM
Fox pro shockwave !$500 , that’s a big investment
It's also a pretty big form factor. I'd love to check one out. too bad you can't rent them lol
Post by: bobcat on December 05, 2020, 06:53:36 PM
Post by: JakeLand on December 05, 2020, 07:51:17 PM
its one of those buy once cry once the sound is incredible and it’s actually worth every pennyFox pro shockwave !$500 , that’s a big investment
It's also a pretty big form factor. I'd love to check one out. too bad you can't rent them lol
KF if you were closer I’d let you run it
Post by: Craig on December 05, 2020, 08:04:42 PM
Post by: highcountry_hunter on December 05, 2020, 08:14:51 PM
FWIW here is an e-mail from an Iotec tech support man. It has all but one of the features I want but does not accept an external battery power source. Like most e-callers, it has a ton of extra features I don't want, but most gizmos are like that from computers to phones. :)
my recommendation would be the Sabre model. It has a 10watt paging speaker that cranks out volume with clarity. It plays our encrypted GCX sounds from ICOtec as well as MP3 or Wav audio files. The remote is easily navigated and has a range of 300 yards, two favorites banks that store 10 sounds each, a play, pause, stop, volume up/down, channel up/down (for sound selection) a menu to change settings to day/night display, display brightness, sequence delay and sleep mode timer. It also has a “Coax” button, that button changes to a users pre set sound that can be changed to immediately, for example, a lot of people set it as a pup distress for after a shot on a coyote, me personally I set it as a mouse vole to sucker them in closer to shorten up the drag after the shot!
You’ll find that our callers are excellent on battery life, I use the ICOtec C4 rechargeable pack in mine, I hunt a lot and get almost two months per charge.
To add onto the shockwave support, it has a function called FOXBANG similar to the COAX function. Except the foxbang is triggered by hearing the muzzle blast then goes to the sound of your choice. However, it is quite sensitive. Dropped the remote onto a rock one time and it immediately went to KI YI at full volume haha
Post by: KFhunter on December 05, 2020, 08:51:37 PM
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Post by: bearmanric on December 08, 2020, 08:31:58 AM
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Post by: WoolyRunner on December 08, 2020, 08:41:31 AM
Post by: bearmanric on December 08, 2020, 08:44:04 AM
https://allpredatorcalls.com/
Post by: birddogdad on December 08, 2020, 08:46:12 AM
Post by: bearmanric on December 08, 2020, 09:27:27 AM
Post by: birdshooter1189 on December 08, 2020, 09:33:31 AM
I made a couple custom sound tracks for it also. A couple from my cats throwing a fit when they were in a kitty carrier cage. A couple other tracks from some young chickens squacking up a storm when they were caught and held.
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 08, 2020, 09:38:39 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 08, 2020, 09:47:43 AM
has anyone gone a Bluetooth waterproof mini speaker and app on cell phone? seems a whole lot cheaper as those speakers are under 50$ and loud :dunno:
I used a CD player and home burned CDs with the free .mp3 sounds I found.
Worked fine, not super loud but it was good enough and I definitely killed coyotes
Post by: KFhunter on December 08, 2020, 09:57:37 AM
has anyone gone a Bluetooth waterproof mini speaker and app on cell phone? seems a whole lot cheaper as those speakers are under 50$ and loud :dunno:Lot's of people have thought of this, but bluetooth doesn't have much range.
You could fix that with blutooth range extenders.
Then you run into volume issues, you could fix that with bluetooth amplified speakers
See where I'm going with this?
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Post by: bearmanric on December 08, 2020, 10:04:23 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 08, 2020, 10:23:13 AM
Post by: Kain on December 09, 2020, 07:41:32 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on December 09, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
Been a while since we have seen you on here! Welcome back.
Yeah haha, I forget how I set up my FoxPro years ago and all the software was on a different laptop.
Post by: Okanagan on December 12, 2020, 12:47:04 PM
Then... I thought it would be helpful to a bunch of us in the market for an e-caller if we could meet people who own an e-caller and play around with several at the same time. Anyone with an e-caller who is willing to come could meet the others somewhere. I'd even drive to the mainland for that.
Don't know if any local company reps would come or not. I am the world's worst organizer, and am not going to try to set this up, but am interested if anyone else wants to. Bearmanric?
Maybe Cabela's or Sportsman's Warehouse already holds such an event?
Post by: bearmanric on December 12, 2020, 02:50:08 PM
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Post by: predatorpro on December 12, 2020, 06:07:57 PM
Use to do seminars at Cabelas and other places. Always brought my Foxpros to show I prefer Foxpros with my Hand calls.
Who needs a foxpro when you could just use an RR1? Lol
Post by: justyhntr on December 12, 2020, 07:31:17 PM
:yeah:Use to do seminars at Cabelas and other places. Always brought my Foxpros to show I prefer Foxpros with my Hand calls.
Who needs a foxpro when you could just use an RR1? Lol
Post by: bearmanric on December 12, 2020, 10:25:25 PM
Post by: Goshawk on December 26, 2020, 09:47:05 AM
What I have found is they all are close, some very close, but not truly realistic. Yes they can and do work, but it seems to me to be a shell of the real thing. For example, If I'm hunting with a red-tailed hawk and she makes a rear end grab on a rabbit, that rabbit scream will bring in EVERY crow, songbird, cows, dogs, horse, you name it. They come in wide open looking for the source of that noise.
When I use the electronic versions, I can get a response, but it's never the same caliber of response as the real thing. Crows may respond, songbirds almost never and older coyotes seldom show themselves.
That's just my experience in my area using the above mentioned electronic calls. In harsher weather or areas with less agriculture I'm sure it may work better than what I'm seeing.
Just my .02 worth.
Post by: Okanagan on January 02, 2021, 08:13:47 PM
Tonight I loaded some Rainshadow lion vocals and some of my own sounds, proven sounds I have used, and I will use some of the 280 sounds that came on the Sabre.
Meanwhile, a friend who is new to calling predators bought an Icotec Outlaw on Dec. 20 or 21, loaded some Rainshadow lion vocals the next day and called in a cougar to his first stand with it, on Dec. 23. He shot it at 14 yards. Then on the 27th, his second calling stand with his new toy, he called in another lion, which my grandson shot. Rainshadow has the stories.
It is not why I bought but Icotec offers a 20% discount to Law enforcement and veterans.
Post by: actionshooter on January 02, 2021, 10:08:12 PM
FWIW update: I bought the Icotec Sabre. It came closest to having the features I want. Just got it and haven't tried it in the woods yet. Seems like a good unit, LOUD and clear, easy remote that actually does what the button indicates it will do when pushed. :)
Tonight I loaded some Rainshadow lion vocals and some of my own sounds, proven sounds I have used, and I will use some of the 280 sounds that came on the Sabre.
Meanwhile, a friend who is new to calling predators bought an Icotec Outlaw on Dec. 20 or 21, loaded some Rainshadow lion vocals the next day and called in a cougar to his first stand with it, on Dec. 23. He shot it at 14 yards. Then on the 27th, his second calling stand with his new toy, he called in another lion, which my grandson shot. Rainshadow has the stories.
It is not why I bought but Icotec offers a 20% discount to Law enforcement and veterans.
Sweet! Keep putting the smackdown on the cats!!
Post by: madcow41 on January 03, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
I purchased a Lucky Duck Revolt and absolutely love it. It has increadible audio and you can easily add mp3s to it. The remote works great. I would also recommend buying the lithium battery. With the battery you can call all day on a single charge. I hunted two weekends and got a bobcat and coyote. I'm still pretty new and trying to learn how to use it but I like it so far.
Cheers,
Tim
I never thought about putting it on a tripod
Post by: highcountry_hunter on January 03, 2021, 06:23:47 PM
I purchased a Lucky Duck Revolt and absolutely love it. It has increadible audio and you can easily add mp3s to it. The remote works great. I would also recommend buying the lithium battery. With the battery you can call all day on a single charge. I hunted two weekends and got a bobcat and coyote. I'm still pretty new and trying to learn how to use it but I like it so far.
Cheers,
Tim
I never thought about putting it on a tripod
I took my decoy into wal mart with me before I had an e caller, it didn’t take long to find a small tri pod that was built for a camera to thread onto that matched right up to the base of my decoy. Spray painted the tripod brown and it worked great as a stand. I’d imagine a guy could do something similar with an e caller, although I usually just set mine in a bush, on a stump or right on the ground
Post by: KFhunter on January 03, 2021, 06:32:24 PM
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Post by: KFhunter on January 03, 2021, 06:37:36 PM
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Post by: madcow41 on January 05, 2021, 02:55:19 PM
How I do mine
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I have that same caller, I don’t have trees down here though
Post by: Wunderlich33 on January 05, 2021, 03:03:48 PM
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Post by: Cougartail on January 18, 2021, 01:22:00 PM
Don't forget to also have a mouth call. At least with a mouth call, you won't sound exactly like the last 6 guys who called from your spot last week.
Bring 3 mouth calls. Dead batteries and frozen reeds alway happen 50 miles from home.