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Other Activities => Fishing => Topic started by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 08, 2020, 05:46:36 PM

Title: penninsula closures
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 08, 2020, 05:46:36 PM: https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/erule.jsp?id=2611
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 08, 2020, 05:49:47 PM: WDFW striking when it's hot...or maybe tribal influence. No way for opposition on this with covid restrictions. The guides in Forks are in trouble. The word is a push for closures from fishing floating devices AKA boats during december thru april. During wild runs basically.....and 99 percent of the guides release to ensure the run. We are losing folks.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 08, 2020, 05:54:46 PM: Wtf.... :bash:
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 08, 2020, 06:31:34 PM: now there is 50 million the state is getting for help.....commercial fisherman and others like charters....wonder what percentage will go to guys like small guides on rivers, natives, commercial crabbers and fishers etc. I would just like to see the break down where that bundle of money will go. If you go to WDFW news releases you can see these postings.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: X-Force on December 08, 2020, 06:50:50 PM: Am I missing something? They are closing them a couple weeks early?

I don’t see them closing right now unless I’m reading this wrong.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 08, 2020, 06:52:59 PM: Quote from: X-Force on December 08, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
Am I missing something? They are closing them a couple weeks early?

I don’t see them closing right now unless I’m reading this wrong.

Closing for fishing from a floatation device..drift boat, pontoon etc..
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Houndhunter on December 08, 2020, 06:53:48 PM: :yeah: and selective gears rules so no bait.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: highside74 on December 08, 2020, 07:14:13 PM: Selective gear rules except single point barbless hook. Why does that mean no bait?

Drift, get out, fish. Get back in repeat.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Stein on December 08, 2020, 07:16:23 PM: Maybe a small submarine?
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: 2MANY on December 08, 2020, 08:24:32 PM: Defund WDFW!!!!
Inslee's Clown Puppets.

And outlaw keyboard auto spell check.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: bigtex on December 08, 2020, 08:27:46 PM: Quote from: 2MANY on December 08, 2020, 08:24:32 PM
Defend WDFW!!!!

Inslee's Clown Puppets.
I think you mean defUnd.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: duckmen1 on December 08, 2020, 08:28:29 PM: Quote from: highside74 on December 08, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
Selective gear rules accept single point barbless hook. Why does that mean no bait?

I like this concept. Just going for a boat ride folks. Like all the joy ride boats on lake washington during the fishing closure earlier this year. Then get out of your boat when your in a good area. Leave your boat down the bank and bank fish. :tup:

Drift, get out, fish. Get back in repeat.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Commando on December 08, 2020, 11:19:10 PM: Please forgive this question but does this mean that we’ve gotta release hatchery steelhead to?
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 09, 2020, 04:12:39 AM: no, just means selective gear and no fishing from boats. can still keep anything that was open before.

this is really going to put a crimp in my fishing...i mostly fish the chehalis any more, and not a lot of good bank real estate there.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Chinook73 on December 09, 2020, 08:08:08 PM: https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/erule.jsp?id=2611

The complete list of affected river and rule change. It says "Release All Rainbow Trout". Since Steelhead are Rainbow Trout, does this mean zero retention?
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Bullkllr on December 09, 2020, 08:14:52 PM: Quote from: Chinook73 on December 09, 2020, 08:08:08 PM
https://fortress.wa.gov/dfw/erules/efishrules/erule.jsp?id=2611

The complete list of affected river and rule change. It says "Release All Rainbow Trout". Since Steelhead are Rainbow Trout, does this mean zero retention?
Anything over 20" is considered a steelhead.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 10, 2020, 02:23:31 PM: Public comment ZOOM meeting tomorrow with WDFW on this issue. From 1-3 pm. You can register at WDFW "meetings 2020" link
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: fishngamereaper on December 10, 2020, 02:29:09 PM: Quote from: Flaming Antler Outdoors on December 10, 2020, 02:23:31 PM
Public comment ZOOM meeting tomorrow with WDFW on this issue. From 1-3 pm. You can register at WDFW "meetings 2020" link

Saw the meeting announcement..
So did they out the cart before the horse with the closure announcement or get so much pushback they now need to publicly justify their decisions.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Stein on December 10, 2020, 02:57:40 PM: Hard to imagine they wouldn't know what the comments would be well before the decision was made.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: WSU on December 10, 2020, 03:04:03 PM: They kept this a secret until now for a reason. The numbers were known for months but they didn't even bother to tell the commission?
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Platensek-po on December 10, 2020, 03:52:05 PM: The Deschutes in Oregon has this rule of bank fishing only. Seems to work there... I won’t fish salmon and steelhead in Washington anymore. They should just close the retention of salmon across the board, commercial native and sport. At this point I believe we are witnessing the final years of salmon runs in the lower 48
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: BigGoonTuna on December 10, 2020, 04:10:27 PM: Typical WDFW...let it get past the point of no return, then apply some ham fisted half measure.

It really bothers me that they’re lumping the Chehalis system and the Willapa tributaries in with the north coastal rivers, they don’t see anywhere near the numbers of guys pounding them for wild fish that the hoh and quillayeute have.

Also, I’m sure they had these low escapement predictions months ago, why wait until it’s nearly time to fish? Kind of like last year, everything shut down in February after nearly a month of unfishable high water by emergency closure due to a low preseason forecast.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: metlhead on December 10, 2020, 04:36:26 PM: Sad, but the Chehalis system needs this closure also. It gets pounded. The poaching of wild steelhead on every trib, above the nets, takes a huge toll on late season fish. Float the tribs and take note. Watch the plunking shacks on private lands. It is a lot of fish.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: CLARKTAR on December 10, 2020, 06:53:11 PM: Quote from: Platensek-po on December 10, 2020, 03:52:05 PM
The Deschutes in Oregon has this rule of bank fishing only. Seems to work there... I won’t fish salmon and steelhead in Washington anymore. They should just close the retention of salmon across the board, commercial native and sport. At this point I believe we are witnessing the final years of salmon runs in the lower 48
I couldn't agree more.

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Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: xX Let ER Rip Xx on December 12, 2020, 05:28:29 PM: Listened to the outdoor line this morning and those guys talked a lot about that. I am disappointed in the fisheries management as a whole in this state. It’s dismal at best and now our backs are up against a wall because of mismanagement! :bash:
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: Stein on December 12, 2020, 05:57:05 PM: Quote from: xX Let ER Rip Xx on December 12, 2020, 05:28:29 PM
Listened to the outdoor line this morning and those guys talked a lot about that. I am disappointed in the ~~fisheries~~ fishermen management as a whole in this state. It’s dismal at best and now our backs are up against a wall because of mismanagement! :bash:

Fixed it for you. They don't manage the fish, they manage us.
Title: Re: penninsula closures
Post by: huntnphool on December 24, 2020, 05:51:55 PM: https://nwsportsmanmag.com/no-boat-fishing-ban-exemptions-for-disabled-coastal-steelheaders/