Post by: wags on December 08, 2020, 06:00:54 PM
I have at various times called both of them, once about trespassers, and the other time about a potential poaching incident. I have left several messages.
I have never heard back from either one of the guys.
Is this standard procedure? Pretty pathetic behavior imo.
Both of these guys are in Pierce County.
Post by: Born2late on December 08, 2020, 06:37:57 PM
Post by: bigtex on December 08, 2020, 06:41:15 PM
The downside of people having game wardens cell numbers is they'll call that number, get the voicemail, leave a message and do nothing else. You don't know what that officer is doing, he may be on a 2 week vacation and doesn't have his phone, he may be on the other side of the state assisting officers in that area.
I have always told people that if you want to call me directly to report violations fine, but if you get my voicemail leave a message and then call dispatch. I may be on vacation/otherwise unavailable and there may be another officer 10 minutes away and if you don't call dispatch he'll never know about the incident you want to report.
Post by: Oh Mah on December 08, 2020, 06:46:50 PM
called on a stolen trap?(Yakima)warden met me at the scene within an hour.
asked a trapping question about a problem beaver in a safe zone he called back that afternoon (clearly said NOPE) LOL.
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Post by: Shoofly09 on December 09, 2020, 12:22:23 AM
Interesting replies to my question so far. It kind of supports my suspicion that I might be on their "do not call list".
what do you think put you on the do not return call list?
Post by: bearpaw on December 09, 2020, 03:49:00 AM
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Post by: Jingles on December 09, 2020, 06:15:26 AM
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Post by: Rob on December 09, 2020, 06:43:41 AM
I found an elk calf in the Colockum that had been shot in the neck and had a rear quarter removed. I called with GPS coordinates in and made a call and had a good response.
Last year I found what looked like an active bear baiting location. I filed a report with gps coordinates and never heard back. That was frustrating. My assumption was that this was not a big enough of a deal for them to bother with given their staffing levels and magnitude of the report I made. For all I know they went out and checked it out (since I heard nothing I will never know!)
Post by: Skyvalhunter on December 09, 2020, 06:45:06 AM
Post by: Rob on December 09, 2020, 06:47:41 AM
Post by: ne kid on December 09, 2020, 07:17:54 AM
Post by: wags on December 09, 2020, 07:14:47 PM
Good question, I'd like to know the answer to that question too.Interesting replies to my question so far. It kind of supports my suspicion that I might be on their "do not call list".
what do you think put you on the do not return call list?
Perhaps I am what they internally call a "known violator"; there is such a list fyi. I know of a person who was on that list simply because he was a very successful hunter. They just couldn't imagine that anyone could be as successful as he was without violating the law. The guy was straight arrow.
Or maybe I have asked the department uncomfortable questions at times, and I don't tolerate BS answers.
However, I have had no adversarial interactions with either of the two agents I have been trying to reach.
Post by: wags on December 11, 2020, 05:38:12 PM
Post by: BNAElkhntr on December 11, 2020, 07:04:03 PM
Did you also call WSP or WDFW dispatch after getting their voicemail?Exactly
The downside of people having game wardens cell numbers is they'll call that number, get the voicemail, leave a message and do nothing else. You don't know what that officer is doing, he may be on a 2 week vacation and doesn't have his phone, he may be on the other side of the state assisting officers in that area.
I have always told people that if you want to call me directly to report violations fine, but if you get my voicemail leave a message and then call dispatch. I may be on vacation/otherwise unavailable and there may be another officer 10 minutes away and if you don't call dispatch he'll never know about the incident you want to report.
Post by: ne kid on December 11, 2020, 07:07:41 PM
Post by: ucwarden on January 30, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
Good question, I'd like to know the answer to that question too.Interesting replies to my question so far. It kind of supports my suspicion that I might be on their "do not call list".
what do you think put you on the do not return call list?
Perhaps I am what they internally call a "known violator"; there is such a list fyi. I know of a person who was on that list simply because he was a very successful hunter. They just couldn't imagine that anyone could be as successful as he was without violating the law. The guy was straight arrow.
Or maybe I have asked the department uncomfortable questions at times, and I don't tolerate BS answers.
However, I have had no adversarial interactions with either of the two agents I have been trying to reach.
Hate to burst your bubble, but there is no such thing as a "do not call list". If anyone turns in poaching information, they certainly deserve a return phone call, no matter what that person's past history might be. On many of the best cases I made in my career, the reporting party was a convicted poacher himself.
I do have a couple of suggestions; first, specifically ask the officer to please return your call. If you don't get a return call, then call back and ask why nobody has returned your call. If that doesn't work, just remember that everyone has a supervisor; call that person.