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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Emptyhanded on April 19, 2009, 08:47:03 PM

Title: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: Emptyhanded on April 19, 2009, 08:47:03 PM: I bought a Ruger Hawkeye in .243 yesterday and i checked the trigger pull of the "LC-6" trigger and it read 5 lbs. the trigger is not adjustable. does anyone know how i can lighten the trigger pull? or where i can get a different spring?
Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: 509er on April 19, 2009, 08:48:19 PM: Get a timney, you will not regret it. Or take it to a gunsmith.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: 509er on April 19, 2009, 08:51:19 PM: I have had Brocks on Division do a couple triggers on my Rugers and I have been happy with the work, it is a huge improvement. I think they charge $40-$50 dollars. Timney is still better :twocents: , but cost 2X or 3x the dollars.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: bobcat on April 19, 2009, 09:03:10 PM: I thought that was one of the improvements the Hawkeye had over the previous Ruger 77, was that the trigger is adjustable with just the turn of a screw ???

I'll see if I can find some info...
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: bobcat on April 19, 2009, 09:11:29 PM: I was wrong. Apparently Ruger claims the new trigger has been improved from the previous trigger, but it is still not user adjustable. Here is what I found:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/hunting_rifle_triggers.htm

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Ruger LC6 Trigger

The Ruger trigger supplied in the M77 Mark II was a big step backward from the very good trigger mechanism used in the original M77. The Mark II trigger is creepy, heavy and not user adjustable. (It can be lightened by removing the trigger return spring and clipping off one link, but that is hardly "user adjustable" by normal standards and the excessive creep remains.) The Ruger M77 is a very popular hunting rifle, and generally deserves to be, but its trigger has been widely and justifiably criticized. The usual solution for M77 Mark II owners is to replace the stock trigger assembly with an aftermarket trigger.

For years, Ruger refused to budge on the trigger issue, despite all the criticism the Mark II trigger received from practically everyone who owned one, including the reviewers at Guns and Shooting Online. However, the pressure from the AccuTrigger and other "improved" triggers made some improvement of the Mark II trigger necessary if the M77 rifle was to remain competitive in the marketplace.

This was accomplished with the introduction of the M77 Hawkeye rifle, which incorporates the LC6 trigger mechanism. The LC6 is derived from the Mark II trigger with some internal and manufacturing improvements. Ruger advertises "smooth, crisp performance right out of the box." Guns and Shooting Online reviewed an early Hawkeye rifle and found the trigger to be even worse than the last M77 Mark II we had reviewed, creepy, gritty and heavy. The LC6 triggers that I tried at the 2008 SHOT Show were considerably better than the example in our test rifle. Either they were specially tuned for the SHOT Show or Ruger has improved their quality control. However, the LC6 is not user adjustable, is set for a (too heavy) nominal five pound pull at the factory and remains clearly inferior to the original M77 trigger as well as the Savage AccuTrigger and the new triggers from Browning, Marlin and Winchester. This is a shame, as anyone who has owned an original M77 knows that Ruger is perfectly capable of producing a good, adjustable trigger should they choose to do so.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: cully on April 19, 2009, 10:42:55 PM: That sucks! The trigger is what keeps this rifle from being a really great one.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: Emptyhanded on April 20, 2009, 07:10:22 PM: Thanks for the responces. Does timney or rifle basix or any other company make triggers for the hawkeye? I emailed ruger and they said that an MK II trigger will not work in the hawkeye. Thanks
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: 509er on April 20, 2009, 07:12:42 PM: I believe rifle basix Lists one. I emailed Timney and they said they had one that would work.
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: Emptyhanded on April 20, 2009, 08:43:28 PM: ok thanks a lot 509er
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: 509er on April 20, 2009, 08:47:00 PM: I have never used a rifle basix trigger, but have heard good things about them. I have used Timney triggers, very nice triggers, and are adjustable as well. I would buy a Timney if you can find one. :twocents:
Title: Re: Ruger Hawkeye Question
Post by: Mauser on April 22, 2009, 08:45:24 PM: Yep, the new Ruger trigger sucks. I switched springs and got mine down to three pounds. There is a guy selling them on evil-bay. The stock spring number is the same as the old tigger spring. I have installed a lot of Rifle Basix triggers and they are easy to do. They also have great tech support if you need to be walked through the install process.