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Title: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: ibuyre on January 11, 2021, 01:06:48 PM
Well, the nuts on the far left are taking down web sites that they don't like or agree with. I just learned that ar15.com was just de platformed, and blacklisted by google. Over the weekend it was Parlor. My hunch they go after the gun sites first, but before it's over I am afraid they will come after us as well.... They don't like hunting and trapping or the use of icky guns. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Crazy days...
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: KNOPHISH on January 11, 2021, 01:22:28 PM
When they all take an oath to support and defend the Constitution from all enemy’s foreign And domestic. When do they get removed and when does the military start defending? 1A is under severe attack with 2A close behind.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: full choke on January 11, 2021, 01:40:00 PM
Well, the nuts on the far left are taking down web sites that they don't like or agree with. I just learned that ar15.com was just de platformed, and blacklisted by google. Over the weekend it was Parlor. My hunch they go after the gun sites first, but before it's over I am afraid they will come after us as well.... They don't like hunting and trapping or the use of icky guns. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up. Crazy days...

I just went to ar15.com on google from my iPhone. It looked to still be there?
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: northwesthunter84 on January 11, 2021, 01:45:16 PM
It’s still there just checked
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: grundy53 on January 11, 2021, 01:48:29 PM
It’s still there just checked
Couldn't get there through Google. But could using duckduckgo

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Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: CementFinisher on January 11, 2021, 01:52:03 PM
worked through microsft edge and google and duck duck go
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: ibuyre on January 11, 2021, 02:05:05 PM
I have since gotten back on and read about it. They are on backup servers at another location. They are now redirection to the new site ar15-backup.com They had a hunch this might happen to them, since it's the biggest gun site on the web. They just didn't think it would happen this fast. Should be a wake up call to everyone, the move to start censoring what people say is a foot.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: woodswalker on January 11, 2021, 02:16:40 PM
They are up...but on backup servers.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: Chesterdog on January 11, 2021, 02:31:20 PM
The government does not have the right to censor you under the first amendment.

Google, Facebook, Twitter...etc. are all private companies.  They can do whatever they want to their own platforms and censor any of their users.

If the government stepped in and told them not to, that would be...dare I say it... SOCIALISM!!
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: ibuyre on January 11, 2021, 02:36:47 PM
The government does not have the right to censor you under the first amendment.

Google, Facebook, Twitter...etc. are all private companies.  They can do whatever they want to their own platforms and censor any of their users.

If the government stepped in and told them not to, that would be...dare I say it... SOCIALISM!!

Right, now who all is in the chain of getting to and from this site? Because from what I understand go-daddy is who took down there servers and google black listed them and is not going to show them in search's or redirect to there site. I am scared this is just the start. 
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: BoomWhop on January 11, 2021, 02:47:32 PM
This could get real ugly real fast. I hope this is blows over but yikes  :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: Mudman on January 11, 2021, 02:51:12 PM
The government does not have the right to censor you under the first amendment.

Google, Facebook, Twitter...etc. are all private companies.  They can do whatever they want to their own platforms and censor any of their users.

If the government stepped in and told them not to, that would be...dare I say it... SOCIALISM!!
You are wrong.  They have protections under stupid Gov. bill from 15 years ago.  Trump has been trying to remove it but lost.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: Chesterdog on January 11, 2021, 03:04:52 PM
You make a good point.  I guess if the tech companies block the sites that they determine are conservative, that could be considered a form of discrimination.  Although with free market capitolism, you are expected to go find another search engine that will provide the results you want.  (Tech companies tend to buy out their competitors making this impossible.)  Are we really going to split up the internet by political party though? Conservatives use this search engine, Liberals use that one?  That will lead to more unchallenged bad ideas.  I think the extremists in this country on both sides are making the decisions for the majority.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 11, 2021, 03:20:32 PM
Become a sponsor.  That way, if needed, Dale can host the site anywhere that will take his money.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: ibuyre on January 11, 2021, 03:23:47 PM
You make a good point.  I guess if the tech companies block the sites that they determine are conservative, that could be considered a form of discrimination.  Although with free market capitolism, you are expected to go find another search engine that will provide the results you want.  (Tech companies tend to buy out their competitors making this impossible.)  Are we really going to split up the internet by political party though? Conservatives use this search engine, Liberals use that one?  That will lead to more unchallenged bad ideas.  I think the extremists in this country on both sides are making the decisions for the majority.

Yep.... To me it's sad dark days, and the sign things are going down a MUCH darker rd than any of us ever thought of. I hear some saying, "what's the first target in a war". Take out leadership and coms. Who's the POTUS right now? And web sites getting taken down hmmmm crazy days. I just don't like the things I am seeing. It scares me. I don't see any good coming from it.
Title: Re: I wonder how long we have???
Post by: Naches Sportsman on January 11, 2021, 03:27:51 PM
1 year from now, I expect all online gun and gun related sales  sites and research sites to be banned from the internet.

Bidens gun control agenda was a big part of his campaign so I imagine they'll pass all they can!
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