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Title: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Bigshooter on January 23, 2021, 08:39:10 AM
Got excited after I applied for WY and put in for AZ.  Who else is in or will be applying?
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Post by: go4steelhd on January 23, 2021, 08:55:15 AM
I donated to the cause yesterday  :tup: :tup:
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Post by: bugs n bones on January 23, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
im in
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Post by: 3dvapor on January 23, 2021, 04:41:52 PM
yeah since 1996! 
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Post by: sagemd on January 24, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
I've completed both applications again.
Arizona has been good to me.
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Post by: Britt-dog on February 05, 2021, 10:05:12 AM
Yup. love AZ
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Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 05, 2021, 10:16:53 AM
I'm in.   Highly doubt I'll draw but I'm in
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Brushbuster on February 05, 2021, 10:34:38 AM
My friend wants us to build pts for a Coues Deer hunt so I thought what the heck I might as well apply for elk/antelope since I already have the license.  :tup:
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ganghis on February 05, 2021, 10:56:15 AM
I'm putting in for the first time but am waiting for Tuesday to apply.  A trick I heard is that since the deadline is the second Tuesday of Feb and licenses last for a year, that you can essentially buy a license every other year but put in for elk points every year that way (since the next year you apply your license will still be valid since the deadline will be a day earlier).  Going to give that a try.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: redi on February 05, 2021, 11:33:01 AM
Utah license is also last for 365 days that's a trick I've used for years by one license plate for two years on it
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Mtnwalker on February 05, 2021, 11:37:01 AM
I knew you could do that for UT but I thought az had to be valid at the time of the draw. I could be wrong
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: raydog on February 05, 2021, 11:54:17 AM
Anybody having issues logging in? I’ve been trying the last few days with no luck!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: knighttime25 on February 05, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Anybody having issues logging in? I’ve been trying the last few days with no luck!

I was having issues yesterday and finally called them. The gentleman I spoke with had to reset my password and it worked. Just give them a call  :tup:
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 05, 2021, 12:02:31 PM
Never have, how much is it and which unit for rifle rut elk is top dog???  or archery elk???  No points right?
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: tmike on February 05, 2021, 12:13:07 PM
I got in yesterday with help. When you buy the license have it start on the 9th. That way you can apply next year without buying the license. I have 15 elk points. License is 160 draw is 15
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: raydog on February 05, 2021, 03:20:04 PM
I got in yesterday with help. When you buy the license have it start on the 9th. That way you can apply next year without buying the license. I have 15 elk points. License is 160 draw is 15
Appreciate the tip!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: JTSmith3 on February 05, 2021, 05:56:16 PM
My wife and I drew early archery bull in AZ the last two years (we were residents then, she shot a bull in 19 and I got one in 20). This year I just put her in for pronghorn (she has 16 points) and bonus points for elk. Maybe this will be her year since we'll have to pay NR prices this year. The good news is we got the lifetime licenses so the NR cap doesn't apply.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: str8meat on February 05, 2021, 06:36:49 PM
In for elk
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Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 05, 2021, 08:05:34 PM
I’m in, 21 points for both! 
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: sagemd on February 05, 2021, 08:13:30 PM
I knew you could do that for UT but I thought az had to be valid at the time of the draw. I could be wrong
You are correct sir.  Need to buy a licence each year.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Bigshooter on February 05, 2021, 08:25:42 PM
I knew you could do that for UT but I thought az had to be valid at the time of the draw. I could be wrong
You are correct sir.  Need to buy a licence each year.

 :yeah:
It tells you when you apply your license must be valid on the day of the draw.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: cem3434 on February 07, 2021, 12:17:23 PM
When is the deadline(s) for other species? I know elk and antelope is 2/9, but when is mule deer, coues deer and javelina?
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 08, 2021, 06:27:40 AM
Still on the fence here, I see some of you with a lot of points.  At 51, I'm not sure waiting 20 years to draw is in the cards.  Are there elk archery units that are quality yet only a few points to draw, or is this a waste of time/money assuming it takes 20+ years?  Thanks guys, down to the wire now.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: mp.hunter on February 08, 2021, 07:03:15 AM
Still on the fence here, I see some of you with a lot of points.  At 51, I'm not sure waiting 20 years to draw is in the cards.  Are there elk archery units that are quality yet only a few points to draw, or is this a waste of time/money assuming it takes 20+ years?  Thanks guys, down to the wire now.
I think the late rifle hunts in AZ would be the best bet if just starting to get points.


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Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: trophyhunt on February 08, 2021, 07:09:28 AM
So I understand how wa works, 90% understand WY but how does AZ work as far as points and being able to draw?  Can a guy draw with 1 or 2 points, is there a percentage for top point holders?  Mike, so it's easier to draw a late rifle over an early archer tag???  That seems backwards to me????
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: mp.hunter on February 08, 2021, 07:13:08 AM
So I understand how wa works, 90% understand WY but how does AZ work as far as points and being able to draw?  Can a guy draw with 1 or 2 points, is there a percentage for top point holders?  Mike, so it's easier to draw a late rifle over an early archer tag???  That seems backwards to me????
Yes much easier you could get a late tag in a solid unit in about half the time as early archery. In AZ up to 10% go to non resident, half of those go to top point guys and the other go random so you could draw any elk tag any year in the random.


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Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 08, 2021, 07:14:42 AM
So I understand how wa works, 90% understand WY but how does AZ work as far as points and being able to draw?  Can a guy draw with 1 or 2 points, is there a percentage for top point holders?  Mike, so it's easier to draw a late rifle over an early archer tag???  That seems backwards to me????

Listen to the last couple Randy Newberg podcasts.  He really dives into AZ.  It'll give you a pretty good understanding of their system.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 08, 2021, 07:15:23 AM
So I understand how wa works, 90% understand WY but how does AZ work as far as points and being able to draw?  Can a guy draw with 1 or 2 points, is there a percentage for top point holders?  Mike, so it's easier to draw a late rifle over an early archer tag???  That seems backwards to me????
Yes much easier you could get a late tag in a solid unit in about half the time as early archery. In AZ up to 10% go to non resident, half of those go to top point guys and the other go random so you could draw any elk tag any year in the random.


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I believe only 20% go to the top point holders on the first pass and 80% go to a random draw (with bonus points) on the second pass.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: hunter_sean08 on February 08, 2021, 03:39:07 PM
Anybody else having issues with bonus points from previous years being displayed? Was on hold with their tech support for an hour today but never got through to anyone (will try again after the deadline as I’m sure they’re busy). I should show as having 2 points. I said it last year but I strongly dislike their website! Regardless I’m in for this year.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ctwiggs1 on February 08, 2021, 03:40:57 PM
Anybody else having issues with bonus points from previous years being displayed? Was on hold with their tech support for an hour today but never got through to anyone (will try again after the deadline as I’m sure they’re busy). I should show as having 2 points. I said it last year but I strongly dislike their website! Regardless I’m in for this year.

Their website is confusing as heck for sure
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: blacktailhunter on February 08, 2021, 08:01:48 PM
Anybody else having issues with bonus points from previous years being displayed? Was on hold with their tech support for an hour today but never got through to anyone (will try again after the deadline as I’m sure they’re busy). I should show as having 2 points. I said it last year but I strongly dislike their website! Regardless I’m in for this year.

Mine are showing up correctly but see where there are lots of people with similar issues as you on other forums.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: blacktailhunter on February 08, 2021, 08:15:42 PM
I'm in with 17 this year but still chasing.  Really need to get down there once things open up to take NR supplemental Hunter Education class to get that extra bonus point.  Seems I'm always behind by 1pt every year.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on February 10, 2021, 08:14:20 PM
So I understand how wa works, 90% understand WY but how does AZ work as far as points and being able to draw?  Can a guy draw with 1 or 2 points, is there a percentage for top point holders?  Mike, so it's easier to draw a late rifle over an early archer tag???  That seems backwards to me????
Yes much easier you could get a late tag in a solid unit in about half the time as early archery. In AZ up to 10% go to non resident, half of those go to top point guys and the other go random so you could draw any elk tag any year in the random.


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I believe only 20% go to the top point holders on the first pass and 80% go to a random draw (with bonus points) on the second pass.

You are both right. 20/80 is the base rule for everyone. But within that, the NRs have a cap of 10% of the tags, and that 10% gets further split between the max pool and random.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: raydog on February 11, 2021, 10:39:58 AM
After many hours on the phone on hold, i still wasn’t able to get help signing in for the draw. Anybody else in the same boat. It seems like there were quite a few people on hold with tech support
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Bigshooter on February 21, 2021, 09:14:09 AM
When will we see CC hits?  End of this week?  Next week?
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Post by: bugs n bones on February 21, 2021, 09:58:45 AM
I think it was the first last year
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Post by: lamrith on February 21, 2021, 02:02:52 PM
I know I got an email saying to make sure CC was updated by 25th..  one can hope.
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Post by: ShaneTyTrey on February 26, 2021, 01:56:48 PM
Anyone get any credit card hits yet?
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: bugs n bones on February 27, 2021, 04:37:31 PM
I heard they didn’t draw Friday
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: jae on February 28, 2021, 10:37:18 AM
Good luck to all!
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on February 28, 2021, 06:33:40 PM
Got an email saying the draw is happening now!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: bugs n bones on February 28, 2021, 06:42:28 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 04, 2021, 08:42:51 AM
anyone seen a cc ping yet?

tick tock, twitch, fidget.
 :stirthepot:
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ELKBURGER on March 04, 2021, 08:51:32 AM
Tagging.....
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: elkslare on March 11, 2021, 07:52:08 AM
Looks like we have till 5 pm Friday March 12  to update our C.Cards with AZ F&G
Hopefully that means CC hits little after 5pm on Friday??  For elk and goat tags
               
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 11, 2021, 10:49:32 AM
Looks like we have till 5 pm Friday March 12  to update our C.Cards with AZ F&G
Hopefully that means CC hits little after 5pm on Friday??  For elk and goat tags
             
Yeah they are behind.  18-21k more applications this year than normal.  Yeesh, it is getting silly.  Have we really gained that many new hunters the last 2 years?  MS deer lastyear was baffling when the left over tags sold in hours.  Usually there were still tags left over at the end of season.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: str8meat on March 18, 2021, 05:57:45 PM
Supposedly they are hitting cc’s now. Mine not yet, strange thing is I have hope for Arizona in my first year than Washington with 20 point. :dunno:
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ELKBURGER on March 18, 2021, 06:01:17 PM
My buddy in Tucson said his card got hit last week but he isn't sure which hunt he drew..... 1st choice bull or 2nd choice cow. As of today they still haven't posted resident results
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 18, 2021, 06:20:22 PM
I have two friends that got elk hits today. Nothing for me yet.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 18, 2021, 06:46:34 PM
nothin so far for me, but expected with only 4pts
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Post by: elkslare on March 18, 2021, 06:59:06 PM
Nothing Here either. with 18 points.  Feel like a misfit    :bash: :bash: :bash:  Santa Forgot me again    LOL
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 18, 2021, 07:35:44 PM
Nothing Here either. with 18 points.  Feel like a misfit    :bash: :bash: :bash:  Santa Forgot me again    LOL

I hear you, I have 21 points down there. But still terrible draw odds for the hunts to want as a NR.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 18, 2021, 07:39:26 PM
Nothing Here either. with 18 points.  Feel like a misfit    :bash: :bash: :bash:  Santa Forgot me again    LOL

I hear you, I have 21 points down there. But still terrible draw odds for the hunts to want as a NR.
I have family down there, and going for less popular hunts  more about getting to hunt vs getting "The hunt" for me.  but with 18-20k more apps this year than previous odds were bad all around.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 23, 2021, 09:20:19 AM
Well, anyone draw?  Goose egg for me!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 23, 2021, 09:22:02 AM
official goose-egg for me and my family that are residents as well.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on March 23, 2021, 09:41:17 AM
Nothing for me.  A good buddy drew the 23N archery bull tag.  I went last year on that hunt to help my cousin with his tag, might go back to help our buddy this year. 
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Bigshooter on March 23, 2021, 03:21:07 PM
Nothing for me.
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Post by: blacktailhunter on March 23, 2021, 04:46:07 PM
Nothing here either
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Post by: sagemd on March 23, 2021, 05:17:08 PM
Nothing for me.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: ctwiggs1 on March 23, 2021, 05:20:05 PM
This may shock you guys but even as a first timer I didn’t draw elk OR pronghorn.

It’s rigged!!
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: bugs n bones on March 23, 2021, 08:04:52 PM
Nothing for me
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: Flaming Antler Outdoors on March 25, 2021, 02:45:36 PM
I drew muzz rut tag for unit 27 second choice. 23 late rifle was my first choice. Late September tag .05% chance in the random draw.  I had 14 pts and was short for unit 23 and wasn't planning on pulling anything this year, figured 27 late rifle for sure next year (better moisture hopefully) was my thought process.  I can't believe I drew it in the random, think only one random was issued.  Normally takes 23 NR points. 
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: jae on March 25, 2021, 10:10:47 PM
I drew muzz rut tag for unit 27 second choice. 23 late rifle was my first choice. Late September tag .05% chance in the random draw.  I had 14 pts and was short for unit 23 and wasn't planning on pulling anything this year, figured 27 late rifle for sure next year (better moisture hopefully) was my thought process.  I can't believe I drew it in the random, think only one random was issued.  Normally takes 23 NR points.
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Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: lamrith on March 26, 2021, 05:31:22 AM
I drew muzz rut tag for unit 27 second choice. 23 late rifle was my first choice. Late September tag .05% chance in the random draw.  I had 14 pts and was short for unit 23 and wasn't planning on pulling anything this year, figured 27 late rifle for sure next year (better moisture hopefully) was my thought process.  I can't believe I drew it in the random, think only one random was issued.  Normally takes 23 NR points.

Wow, only 40tags, not wonder it took 14pts.  Good luck!  I had 27modern as my 2nd choice, supposed to be a nice unit.
Title: Re: Arizona Elk and Antelope Draw
Post by: go4steelhd on April 13, 2021, 07:06:42 AM
A swing and a miss for me!

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