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Big Game Hunting => Out Of State Hunting => Topic started by: Gentrys on February 07, 2021, 09:53:08 PM

Title: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Gentrys on February 07, 2021, 09:53:08 PM: Would any of you guys with a Go Hunt membership be willing to look up the odds of drawing an elk permit in units 620, 621 and 622 this year with 4 Bonus points?
I know my odds aren't good, but just wanted to know some draw percentages.
I've always wanted to hunt that area in Montana and may go over there for deer this year, regardless on if I get a special permit for elk.
Thanks
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: hunterofelk on February 08, 2021, 06:11:43 AM: Maybe you already have seen it, but page 44 of the 2020 hunting regulations shows drawing stats for elk permits. Might be a little better with bonus points, odds are still long though.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: idaho guy on February 08, 2021, 06:38:40 AM: Odds with 4 points are 6 percent for all 3. 2.8 if you apply I think for 622 with the permit that includes the cmr. Good luck I am going for breaks with 7 points.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Gentrys on February 08, 2021, 11:57:34 AM: Well, 6% isn't much, but guess it's better than my odds here in WA to draw a bull tag with 15 points.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Stein on February 08, 2021, 01:11:01 PM: Odds in pretty much any bull unit in MT are bad, they really don't have a ton of tags as most units are managed for maximum opportunity, but someone draws every year and it's pretty cheap if you are in for a general tag anyway.

The one thing they have over WA is the number of tags in good units don't go down by 75% a year.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: dvolmer on February 08, 2021, 03:32:32 PM: Montana elk draw odds that are mentioned above are for residents. Non-resident draw odds for a rifle tag in the breaks is just about zero to none. I was putting in for unit 270 for deer (highly coveted tag) and I thought my draw odds were the same as residents (really low OIL) and then found out the chances were actually non-existent. I think non-residents can only take 10% of the limited entry quota but are not guaranteed 10% of the quota. Nearly impossible to draw.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Bowbender on February 08, 2021, 04:10:35 PM: Last year I drew 621 with 1 bonus point. First time trying. It can be done!
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: dvolmer on February 09, 2021, 08:43:28 AM: Quote from: Bowbender on February 08, 2021, 04:10:35 PM
Last year I drew 621 with 1 bonus point. First time trying. It can be done!
was that a bow hunt only?
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: idaho guy on February 09, 2021, 12:03:58 PM: Quote from: dvolmer on February 08, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
Montana elk draw odds that are mentioned above are for residents. Non-resident draw odds for a rifle tag in the breaks is just about zero to none. I was putting in for unit 270 for deer (highly coveted tag) and I thought my draw odds were the same as residents (really low OIL) and then found out the chances were actually non-existent. I think non-residents can only take 10% of the limited entry quota but are not guaranteed 10% of the quota. Nearly impossible to draw.

the odds i posted are non resident draw odds based on last year. i have put in for breaks as a resident and now as a non res- i know the difference. you are spot on i think with the 10 percent limit but the odds arent horrible for the breaks elk but they are almost zero for 270 deer.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Stein on February 09, 2021, 12:37:34 PM: There are also a few different units some people consider included in "the breaks" as well as obviously archery vs rifle.

I don't know how much it applies overall, but the 10% cap really hits hard if a unit only gives out 9 or fewer total tags.....
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: spookgus on February 09, 2021, 12:40:40 PM: It can happen. When my son was 12, he drew 410 rifle any elk on his first attempt as a nonresident. I believe there were 55 total permits that year.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: DWBMontana on February 09, 2021, 01:20:54 PM: Quote from: Gentrys on February 07, 2021, 09:53:08 PM
Would any of you guys with a Go Hunt membership be willing to look up the odds of drawing an elk permit in units 620, 621 and 622 this year with 4 Bonus points?
I know my odds aren't good, but just wanted to know some draw percentages.
I've always wanted to hunt that area in Montana and may go over there for deer this year, regardless on if I get a special permit for elk.
Thanks
We live just outside of Glasgow, just above the units you mentioned....are you inquiring for archery tag, rifle tag, cow tag???
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Gentrys on February 12, 2021, 08:46:17 PM: I'll be applying for rifle season.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: DWBMontana on February 16, 2021, 05:17:05 PM: A NR who applies for the 620-20 tag has less then then 10% chance with under 5 points.
Title: Re: Elk Permit Draw Odds in Montana
Post by: Gentrys on February 16, 2021, 07:02:45 PM: Considering the draw odds I face here in WA for elk, that's pretty darn good odds for me as a NR in Montana.