Post by: salmon on February 12, 2021, 10:52:33 PM
Post by: Stein on February 12, 2021, 10:55:26 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 13, 2021, 08:07:56 AM
Post by: Stein on February 13, 2021, 08:12:24 AM
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Post by: salmon on February 13, 2021, 08:52:39 AM
Post by: WSU on February 13, 2021, 09:20:57 AM
We have different seasons. Not too many recs want to go out in February vs July.
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Lots of recs crab the bays all winter.
Post by: Stein on February 13, 2021, 09:53:06 AM
Rec crab is one place I'll say WDFW does a good job, maybe even great (given the number of people vs number of crabs). Prior to 2000, it was something like 70/30 commercial/rec split when it was open all year. Then, it was 50/50 and now I think it's 80/20 in favor of recs? I might be wrong there, but things have been going our way for a while now and the commercial fleet got the short end of the stick for sure.
If WDFW opened crab on Jan 1 for recs, they would have to shut it when the quota was reached and that might be in the middle of summer when everyone wants to be out enjoying the weather, fishing and crabbing. There is a limited resource and they actually do a pretty good job of making the highest percentage of people happy.
We can't go back to open all year, there are just too many people.
Post by: rooseveltkiller on February 13, 2021, 10:06:58 AM
:twocents:
Post by: snarkybull on February 13, 2021, 10:39:08 AM
Commercial and recs have independent quotas WDFW manages to. When we hit our quota, we're done. When they hit their quota, they're done (in theory anyway). So, what the commercials are doing has zero impact on what recs are doing and vice versa. WDFW adjusts each of the seasons according to their respective harvest.
Rec crab is one place I'll say WDFW does a good job, maybe even great (given the number of people vs number of crabs). Prior to 2000, it was something like 70/30 commercial/rec split when it was open all year. Then, it was 50/50 and now I think it's 80/20 in favor of recs? I might be wrong there, but things have been going our way for a while now and the commercial fleet got the short end of the stick for sure.
If WDFW opened crab on Jan 1 for recs, they would have to shut it when the quota was reached and that might be in the middle of summer when everyone wants to be out enjoying the weather, fishing and crabbing. There is a limited resource and they actually do a pretty good job of making the highest percentage of people happy.
We can't go back to open all year, there are just too many people.
The Pacific Ocean (including Grays Harbor bay, Willapa Bay, and the Columbia) have no crab quotas whatsoever.
Post by: Stein on February 13, 2021, 10:41:25 AM
Post by: GWP on February 13, 2021, 12:35:43 PM
Post by: WSU on February 13, 2021, 04:10:20 PM
Oh maybe I misunderstood, the debate is on the domoic acid closure?
Yes. And specifically opening commercial and keeping rec closed.
Post by: Stein on February 13, 2021, 04:12:06 PM
Post by: GWP on February 13, 2021, 04:23:01 PM
:)
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 13, 2021, 04:47:48 PM
Been 'wistfully' watching the 'live' Westport camera. Sigh... Watching boats heading out earlier this morning. Sigh... While stuck here in the snow. Sigh...Almost all of them came right back in I heard! Too much wind/weather!
:)
Post by: GWP on February 13, 2021, 05:09:18 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 13, 2021, 05:42:27 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 13, 2021, 06:11:43 PM
Post by: GWP on February 13, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
Post by: Tbar on February 13, 2021, 06:35:03 PM
I was told that 2 boats sank today! 😳Where did you hear this? It was really rough earlier.
Post by: elkaholic123 on February 14, 2021, 11:31:11 AM
1 that I know of is the Terry F! A friend of mine is a crabber and they lost 50 pots :yike: alsoI was told that 2 boats sank today! 😳Where did you hear this? It was really rough earlier.
https://www.newsbreak.com/washington/westport/news/2163640579006/coast-guard-rescued-three-people-and-one-dog-from-a-commercial-fishing-vessel-taking-on-water-saturday-morning-off-willapa-bay
Post by: GWP on February 14, 2021, 11:35:34 AM
Sorry to hear that. Hope the two that sank is incorrect. Have not heard anything about them yet.
Post by: Tbar on February 14, 2021, 11:41:32 AM
Post by: Tbar on February 14, 2021, 11:52:57 AM
https://www.gofundme.com/f/westport-fisherman-loses-livelihood-home-at-sea?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
Post by: GWP on February 14, 2021, 12:09:57 PM
Post by: GWP on February 14, 2021, 12:23:21 PM
Talk about a horrible day for that boat and crew. Sounds like his day got worse after he lost his business, home and livelihood. Reports say the dog did not survive the car accident.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/westport-fisherman-loses-livelihood-home-at-sea?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
I could not find anything further than the sinking?
Post by: Tbar on February 14, 2021, 12:29:12 PM
I do not have Facebook but if you look up his sister, she is the one who organized the gofundme. I have several friends in the fishery.Talk about a horrible day for that boat and crew. Sounds like his day got worse after he lost his business, home and livelihood. Reports say the dog did not survive the car accident.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/westport-fisherman-loses-livelihood-home-at-sea?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
I could not find anything further than the sinking?
Post by: 92xj on February 14, 2021, 12:57:29 PM
I think he was looking for info on the car crash after the sinking that you mentioned in your postI do not have Facebook but if you look up his sister, she is the one who organized the gofundme. I have several friends in the fishery.Talk about a horrible day for that boat and crew. Sounds like his day got worse after he lost his business, home and livelihood. Reports say the dog did not survive the car accident.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/westport-fisherman-loses-livelihood-home-at-sea?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
I could not find anything further than the sinking?
Post by: Tbar on February 14, 2021, 01:11:38 PM
Not sure if that's the correct link but it's one of many posts I think.
Post by: spoonman on February 14, 2021, 01:25:40 PM
Commercial and recs have independent quotas WDFW manages to. When we hit our quota, we're done. When they hit their quota, they're done (in theory anyway). So, what the commercials are doing has zero impact on what recs are doing and vice versa. WDFW adjusts each of the seasons according to their respective harvest.
Rec crab is one place I'll say WDFW does a good job, maybe even great (given the number of people vs number of crabs). Prior to 2000, it was something like 70/30 commercial/rec split when it was open all year. Then, it was 50/50 and now I think it's 80/20 in favor of recs? I might be wrong there, but things have been going our way for a while now and the commercial fleet got the short end of the stick for sure.
If WDFW opened crab on Jan 1 for recs, they would have to shut it when the quota was reached and that might be in the middle of summer when everyone wants to be out enjoying the weather, fishing and crabbing. There is a limited resource and they actually do a pretty good job of making the highest percentage of people happy.
We can't go back to open all year, there are just too many people.
Sorry but I have to disagree with the dept doing a good job at a managing the fishery. The south sound has been a waist land for a while now do to miss management of the fishery. They saw a steady decline in commercial, tribal, and sport caught crap for a few consecutive years and never did anything to help with that. I can’t remember the exact years but look up if you want the sporties caught in say 2015 and the following year it was half, then the following year again it was half of that, and so on. Then they close it to sport fishing but commercial and tribal still get to go at it out there. Now there are no dungies to speak of and hardly any red rocks. I know this topic was about the grays harbor/ocean area but that won’t be far behind, just wait and watch! The dept is a failure at best!