Post by: bear on February 24, 2021, 07:14:47 PM
Post by: jay.sharkbait on February 24, 2021, 07:17:14 PM
Any insight on a new boat purchase? Wondering if listed price is what is expected to pay or if I need to talk them down? Try to get them to throw in gear? Never bought a new boat. Thanks guys
If it’s the type of boat that lives in the water make sure you have moorage before you buy.
Post by: bear on February 24, 2021, 07:22:45 PM
Any insight on a new boat purchase? Wondering if listed price is what is expected to pay or if I need to talk them down? Try to get them to throw in gear? Never bought a new boat. Thanks guys
If it’s the type of boat that lives in the water make sure you have moorage before you buy.
Don’t need moorage.
Post by: Crunchy on February 24, 2021, 07:53:55 PM
Post by: MADMAX on February 24, 2021, 07:57:06 PM
The dickering is expected
Have fun
Post by: jackelope on February 24, 2021, 08:04:24 PM
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Post by: hiway_99 on February 24, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
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Post by: MADMAX on February 24, 2021, 08:52:40 PM
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Post by: Stein on February 24, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
If you can buy in Oregon, you won't pay tax on the motor or any accessories if you get them on a separate invoice.
Make sure you know exactly what comes with it, lower prices sometimes means they didn't buy the second row of seats, canvas or some options that are expensive to add later.
Get at or near max rated hp unless you are very sure you don't need it.
Be picky on the trailer, check the load capacity of the trailer and tires compared to the boat and add on kicker, gear, fuel, etc. Dealers scrimp on trailers all the time. Get a trusted brand of trailer with some type of bearing greasing system.
Develop a budget for stuff you need to add when you get it home, then leave at least 2-3 days and 50% more budget. It amazed me all the stuff that needs to be added to a new boat to make it fishable - or pay someone to do it. Extra battery, sonar, VHF, downriggers, extra electrical stuff, rod holders, net holder, storage stuff, kicker, kicker fuel line, WN numbers, dock lines, bow line, fenders, motor bluetooth adapter, battery charger, pot puller plug, list is pretty long actually.
Get insurance before you pick it up so you're covered on the way home. Look into insurance for the kicker, electronics and fishing gear, it's only a few bucks a year and stuff disappears all the time.
Break in the motor according to the manufacturer's instructions, takes about 1/2 day in a lake.
Post by: Badhabit on February 24, 2021, 10:02:25 PM
Post by: shootem on February 25, 2021, 12:03:56 AM
You can also see about store credit and/or discount so when you want to add things you have their money to spend or a good discount to use. Maybe buy at their cost. Be cautious about the electronics. If they are add ons make sure you pick the product not them. I got a older model fish finder/GPS thrown in when they picked rather than a newer one I would have chosen. Good luck. Let us know what you end up with.
Post by: bear on February 25, 2021, 05:09:04 AM
Post by: Stein on February 25, 2021, 07:38:28 AM
You can also mount stuff up there which is totally out of the way.
Post by: dc on February 25, 2021, 08:12:10 AM
Post by: Stein on February 25, 2021, 08:39:49 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 25, 2021, 08:42:51 AM
Post by: GWP on February 25, 2021, 10:16:07 AM
Like has been stated, really think about where and what you want to do with it. Keep in mind things ‘change’ so your needs may change as well. Hard to guess on that part though. It is really difficult to have one boat that does everything you want. Best of luck!
Post by: jeffro on February 25, 2021, 09:01:29 PM
Probably already equipped, and ready to fish.
Lots available with so many out of work.
Kinda like a new car, loses 30? Percent driving off the lot.....
Post by: fowl smacker on February 25, 2021, 09:13:25 PM
Buy newer used, let the other guy bite the depreciationNot really though. Seems like 15 yr old used sleds are more valuable now than they were then.
Probably already equipped, and ready to fish.
Lots available with so many out of work.
Kinda like a new car, loses 30? Percent driving off the lot.....
Post by: GWP on February 25, 2021, 10:38:47 PM
Post by: Encore 280 on February 25, 2021, 11:22:11 PM
O = OUT
A = ANOTHER
T = THOUSAND
Post by: bear on February 26, 2021, 04:32:53 AM
Buy newer used, let the other guy bite the depreciationNot really though. Seems like 15 yr old used sleds are more valuable now than they were then.
Probably already equipped, and ready to fish.
Lots available with so many out of work.
Kinda like a new car, loses 30? Percent driving off the lot.....
Ya. Many are worth what people paid for them ten years or more later.
Post by: h2ofowlr on February 26, 2021, 08:13:43 AM
B =BAIL= Bust
O = OUT
A = ANOTHER
T = THOUSAND
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 26, 2021, 08:30:25 AM
Not a great market. Aluminum prices are high.
I would buy new over used. Prices aren't that different.
Raider is a good boat. Ive owned two hewes, basically the same as raider since the owner's where once business partners and split year's ago.. hard top all day long..my first hewes was soft top and now I have a full cabin. Protection from the elements, both sun and rain. Lockable door is a piece of mind for secure gear storage. And I can sleep on it. The extra weight is nice to rides better than a lighter soft top version.
Post by: GWP on February 27, 2021, 06:49:43 PM
I could make money on my 6 year old Hewescraft right now...
Not a great market. Aluminum prices are high.
I would buy new over used. Prices aren't that different.
Raider is a good boat. Ive owned two hewes, basically the same as raider since the owner's where once business partners and split year's ago.. hard top all day long..my first hewes was soft top and now I have a full cabin. Protection from the elements, both sun and rain. Lockable door is a piece of mind for secure gear storage. And I can sleep on it. The extra weight is nice to rides better than a lighter soft top version.
How big is the one you have now? Do you know 'about' how much weight the top adds? Been looking at an older one...
Post by: Stein on February 27, 2021, 07:20:49 PM
Buy newer used, let the other guy bite the depreciationNot really though. Seems like 15 yr old used sleds are more valuable now than they were then.
Probably already equipped, and ready to fish.
Lots available with so many out of work.
Kinda like a new car, loses 30? Percent driving off the lot.....
Ya. Many are worth what people paid for them ten years or more later.
I remember when I thought the only cost of owning the boat was the initial purchase and a splash of gas.
With the prices of metal and supply/demand, I'm sure I could flip both my boat and truck for a tidy profit (as long as I don't count all the other stuff besides the purchase price).
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 27, 2021, 07:40:49 PM
I could make money on my 6 year old Hewescraft right now...
Not a great market. Aluminum prices are high.
I would buy new over used. Prices aren't that different.
Raider is a good boat. Ive owned two hewes, basically the same as raider since the owner's where once business partners and split year's ago.. hard top all day long..my first hewes was soft top and now I have a full cabin. Protection from the elements, both sun and rain. Lockable door is a piece of mind for secure gear storage. And I can sleep on it. The extra weight is nice to rides better than a lighter soft top version.
How big is the one you have now? Do you know 'about' how much weight the top adds? Been looking at an older one...
I'm running a 22' now. Full cabin is about 600lbs more than a soft top.
Post by: GWP on February 27, 2021, 07:48:25 PM
I have fished a lot with 'no top', and the majority of the time it is fine, but there are days when it would be nice to get under a bit of cover. Or be able to sack out for a bit in a cabin.
Post by: fishngamereaper on February 27, 2021, 07:58:56 PM
Cool. Thanks for the reply! I have gone back and forth on the hard top. Lost out on a Hewes with a hard top, but the 'no top' one is still around.
I have fished a lot with 'no top', and the majority of the time it is fine, but there are days when it would be nice to get under a bit of cover. Or be able to sack out for a bit in a cabin.
I used to run a 17'. Thought I would never go hard top let alone full cabin. Ran my 17' without the softtop for years, then never ran it without the top, rain or shine.
Then boat shopping for bigger boat I was leaning 3/4 top, then full top and ended full cabin with bulkhead door. I absolutely love the full cabin. Re steer station is a dream. Full control from the deck, it's a game changer for me when I fish alone or with my kid. Being able to lock up all my gear and the bonus of sleeper seats was a big deal maker to.
Post by: jackelope on February 27, 2021, 08:15:44 PM
I could make money on my 6 year old Hewescraft right now...
Not a great market. Aluminum prices are high.
I would buy new over used. Prices aren't that different.
Raider is a good boat. Ive owned two hewes, basically the same as raider since the owner's where once business partners and split year's ago.. hard top all day long..my first hewes was soft top and now I have a full cabin. Protection from the elements, both sun and rain. Lockable door is a piece of mind for secure gear storage. And I can sleep on it. The extra weight is nice to rides better than a lighter soft top version.
How big is the one you have now? Do you know 'about' how much weight the top adds? Been looking at an older one...
I'm running a 22' now. Full cabin is about 600lbs more than a soft top.
220 OP?
Post by: bear on March 08, 2021, 05:34:18 PM
1)Gonna do a Yamy 9.9 kicker. Should I do a garmin on that or just do a bow mount electric with the gps control on that? Looks like it will be similar in price.
2)Electronics recommendations please. Gonna need the full gammit for offshore fishing
Post by: Stein on March 08, 2021, 05:46:16 PM
Put a deposit on a Pro fisherman. Looking for some input.
1)Gonna do a Yamy 9.9 kicker. Should I do a garmin on that or just do a bow mount electric with the gps control on that? Looks like it. Ya be similar I. Price
2)Electronics recommendations please. Gonna need the full gammit for offshore fishing
I am going through the same thought process. I decided on the Garmin because of a few reasons:
1. I don't want a bow mount hanging on the bow because I climb over it all the time on beaches as well as it would be in the way when anchoring.
2. Weight & room - I don't want the extra weight on my boat and don't really have a great place for a big battery bank.
3. Simplicity - the Garmin system seems simpler than having to use two motors.
4. Throttle control on the kicker
5. Theft - one more thing I have to figure out how to lock and avoid getting ripped off and less stuff attracts less attention.
6 Capacity - I can troll until I run out of gas under any conditions vs having to size batteries & running out of juice
7. Compatibility - No issue with the Garmin, some of the bow mounts only work with proprietary systems.
Probably more to add to the list, I think it depends on where you are fishing and what your boat can handle.
Post by: bear on March 09, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
Post by: Stein on March 09, 2021, 09:42:27 AM
The wiring is simple, anyone with familiarity with electronics should have no problem. Use quality marine components, heat shrink adhesive terminals and spray any exposed metal (terminal blocks, switches, fuse holders, etc) with anti-corrosion spray.
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 09, 2021, 10:09:41 AM
After some research I’m leaning toward the Lowrance hds12 live system. It can support the radar, gps navigation, and fish finding. Any one install something like this yourself?
I've done all my own wiring and rigging. Pretty straight forward. Drilling holes in new boats is fun. :chuckle:
I used to run Lowrance but switched to Simrad. I love the Simrad system I'm running right now. 12" at the helm, 7" at the rear helm, networked to radar, etc. If your serious about bottom detail get a Airmar transducer. I'm running a TM 150 and have been pleased with the performance. Networking everything is easy using a NMEA system as well as the plug and play links.
If you have any questions holler.
Post by: fishngamereaper on March 09, 2021, 10:34:50 AM
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Post by: Stein on March 15, 2021, 08:58:17 PM
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Post by: fowl smacker on March 15, 2021, 09:55:20 PM
Post by: bear on March 16, 2021, 07:01:02 AM
Mix and match, that’s what the cool kids do. I have black and grey.
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Just don’t wanna do that on a new boat.
Take a look at Raymarine for your electronics. Best there is in my opinion.
Going with Lowrance hds live
Post by: Stein on March 16, 2021, 09:40:25 AM